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Keeps the picks we have way too many holes. Go after Jamison Crowder for slot, Fuller on an incentive 1 yr deal for big play WR, and AROB for possession. Add in 2-3 draft picks at WR and sprinkle in Schultz at TE.
(02-16-2022, 12:40 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]Keeps the picks we have way too many holes. Go after Jamison Crowder for slot, Fuller on an incentive 1 yr deal for big play WR, and AROB for possession. Add in 2-3 draft picks at WR and sprinkle in Schultz at TE.
Pass on Crowder but I like your other 2 moves. I said a while back I would love to give Fuller a 1 year deal. Fuller needs to go somewhere where he can have a great season in order to get a bigger pay day. Jags have zero deep threats and are currently the worst WR room in the NFL. 

I'll absolutely welcome ARob back as well. Not sure what happened this past season with him but the dude is one of the best route runners in the NFL.
(02-16-2022, 09:42 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2022, 12:40 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]Keeps the picks we have way too many holes. Go after Jamison Crowder for slot, Fuller on an incentive 1 yr deal for big play WR, and AROB for possession. Add in 2-3 draft picks at WR and sprinkle in Schultz at TE.
Pass on Crowder but I like your other 2 moves. I said a while back I would love to give Fuller a 1 year deal. Fuller needs to go somewhere where he can have a great season in order to get a bigger pay day. Jags have zero deep threats and are currently the worst WR room in the NFL. 

I'll absolutely welcome ARob back as well. Not sure what happened this past season with him but the dude is one of the best route runners in the NFL.

Are we talking about Will Fuller?  Why in the world would anybody invest even a single season contract on him.  The guy is never healthy.
(02-16-2022, 10:15 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2022, 09:42 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Pass on Crowder but I like your other 2 moves. I said a while back I would love to give Fuller a 1 year deal. Fuller needs to go somewhere where he can have a great season in order to get a bigger pay day. Jags have zero deep threats and are currently the worst WR room in the NFL. 

I'll absolutely welcome ARob back as well. Not sure what happened this past season with him but the dude is one of the best route runners in the NFL.

Are we talking about Will Fuller?  Why in the world would anybody invest even a single season contract on him.  The guy is never healthy.
The Jags have to take some chances in order to upgrade the WR position. The odds of getting Adams or Godwin are extremely low. If Fuller is healthy (big if), he gives this team a true playmaker. And by giving him a 1 year deal, it really shouldn't effect your draft plans. Similar to what the Fins did. Signed Fuller and still drafted Waddle.
(02-16-2022, 10:23 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2022, 10:15 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]Are we talking about Will Fuller?  Why in the world would anybody invest even a single season contract on him.  The guy is never healthy.
The Jags have to take some chances in order to upgrade the WR position. The odds of getting Adams or Godwin are extremely low. If Fuller is healthy (big if), he gives this team a true playmaker. And by giving him a 1 year deal, it really shouldn't effect your draft plans. Similar to what the Fins did. Signed Fuller and still drafted Waddle.

Where he proceeded to play two games.
pass on Fuller
(02-16-2022, 10:56 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2022, 10:23 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]The Jags have to take some chances in order to upgrade the WR position. The odds of getting Adams or Godwin are extremely low. If Fuller is healthy (big if), he gives this team a true playmaker. And by giving him a 1 year deal, it really shouldn't effect your draft plans. Similar to what the Fins did. Signed Fuller and still drafted Waddle.

Where he proceeded to play two games.
This is definitely possible but I'm willing to take a low risk/high reward 1 year deal in order to help Trevor out.
(02-16-2022, 10:15 AM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2022, 09:42 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Pass on Crowder but I like your other 2 moves. I said a while back I would love to give Fuller a 1 year deal. Fuller needs to go somewhere where he can have a great season in order to get a bigger pay day. Jags have zero deep threats and are currently the worst WR room in the NFL. 

I'll absolutely welcome ARob back as well. Not sure what happened this past season with him but the dude is one of the best route runners in the NFL.

Are we talking about Will Fuller?  Why in the world would anybody invest even a single season contract on him.  The guy is never healthy.

dur hur Baalke joke harf harf

You're right, though, maybe a minimum deal with little guaranteed, but that's likely not enough to land the offer.
I think you guys missed the "incentive 1 yr deal" part. Meaning, plays no games=no pay. Complete upside, zero downside. He's a threat.
(02-16-2022, 02:22 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]I think you guys missed the "incentive 1 yr deal" part. Meaning, plays no games=no pay. Complete upside, zero downside. He's a threat.

Who is going to sign a contract like that?  LOL.
(02-16-2022, 02:42 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2022, 02:22 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]I think you guys missed the "incentive 1 yr deal" part. Meaning, plays no games=no pay. Complete upside, zero downside. He's a threat.

Who is going to sign a contract like that?  LOL.

No one. The NFL Players Union wouldn't even allow that to go through.
(02-16-2022, 02:22 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]I think you guys missed the "incentive 1 yr deal" part. Meaning, plays no games=no pay. Complete upside, zero downside. He's a threat.
I would definitely lace it with incentives but I agree with other posters, going to have to give him some guaranteed money.

1 year. 8.5 million. Extra 1.5 million if he crosses 1,000K receiving yards.
(02-16-2022, 03:18 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2022, 02:42 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]Who is going to sign a contract like that?  LOL.

No one. The NFL Players Union wouldn't even allow that to go through.

But in the world of make believe where armchair GMs design the contracts...
(02-16-2022, 03:48 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2022, 02:22 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]I think you guys missed the "incentive 1 yr deal" part. Meaning, plays no games=no pay. Complete upside, zero downside. He's a threat.
I would definitely lace it with incentives but I agree with other posters, going to have to give him some guaranteed money.

1 year. 8.5 million. Extra 1.5 million if he crosses 1,000K receiving yards.

I’d give a guaranteed vet minimum deal, with incentives for games played, downs played, yards, rec, etc.. More play= more pay, in other words. I’m sure there is a creative way to do this in an extremely low risk way. 

We need something for speed. Even if it has to be MVS from the Packers, we HAVE to have a downfield threat.
Need more than one down field threat with this teams luck. Need a back to the back up.
I know a lot of people on the board want a WR with the #1 asset being speed, but keep in mind, Cooper Kupp was the best WR in the NFL last season. He ran a slow 4.62 at the Combine. Speed doesn't always equal separation. Great route running and footwork often leads to more separation than pure speed does.
(02-17-2022, 01:15 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I know a lot of people on the board want a WR with the #1 asset being speed, but keep in mind, Cooper Kupp was the best WR in the NFL last season. He ran a slow 4.62 at the Combine. Speed doesn't always equal separation. Great route running and footwork often leads to more separation than pure speed does.

Very true.
(02-17-2022, 01:15 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]I know a lot of people on the board want a WR with the #1 asset being speed, but keep in mind, Cooper Kupp was the best WR in the NFL last season. He ran a slow 4.62 at the Combine. Speed doesn't always equal separation. Great route running and footwork often leads to more separation than pure speed does.

Very true.  Which makes me appreciate Jimmy Smith even more, because he had both.
On a side note, Amari Cooper is an exceptional route runner, with good speed. Youtube has an excellent interview and film study with Cooper, Baldinger, and Warner. You also get a very good sense of who Cooper is and his ability to read the CB across from him. I encourage the board to view the video. Unfortunately, the message board's system will not let me link the video due to it being an NFL video. Go to your browser and put in "Amari Cooper on the Art of the Release & Route Running". I promise it is a good watch.
(02-17-2022, 12:58 AM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-16-2022, 03:48 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]I would definitely lace it with incentives but I agree with other posters, going to have to give him some guaranteed money.

1 year. 8.5 million. Extra 1.5 million if he crosses 1,000K receiving yards.

I’d give a guaranteed vet minimum deal, with incentives for games played, downs played, yards, rec, etc.. More play= more pay, in other words. I’m sure there is a creative way to do this in an extremely low risk way. 

We need something for speed. Even if it has to be MVS from the Packers, we HAVE to have a downfield threat.

And you really think he would do that?  LOL.
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