(11-27-2022, 06:05 PM)cincyjacket Wrote: [ -> ]Fact is TLAW has either thrown an interception or fumbled the ball on a potential game winning last drive.
This game was not an exception. He got lucky today.
You mean second game-winning drives... In 90% of those games Trevor took the lead with minutes left in the game... the defense blows it.... Then Trevor's left with 2 minutes and usually no timeouts... and two minutes is being generous.... Something tells me that you don't actually watch the games... It's either that or you have no clue what you're watching
(11-27-2022, 06:41 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 06:36 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]So as of now, Trevor Lawrence has 16 TDs with 6 more games to go. He is on a pace to throw 24.7 TDs. Last year he has 12 TD passes.
This is his first year in Pederson's offense.
It obviously doesn't always work out with this franchise. But games like today are why I urge patience.
Exactly Bullseye. That's what some of us have been saying all year, be patient, let him progress and improve and you'll start to see results and performances from him.
Sadly a lot of people took the 'generational talent' tag he had put on him and expected perfection from the start and if he made a mistake or had a bad game then he was a bust. People were ready to write him off so quickly it was very weird.
When I think of these fans without patience for young QBs to progress, I think about BUCS fans after they gave away Steve Young to the 49ers. I think about the Falcons fans after they gave up on Brett Favre.
I get people wanting to win or at least be entertaining....but if you have what you think is a franchise QB, you have to give him everything he needs to succeed. He needs the right coach...the right scheme...the right surrounding talent...and time to grow and develop into that QB.
(11-27-2022, 06:43 PM)cincyjacket Wrote: [ -> ]Trevor was 1-6 in his last 7 starts. He's now 2-6.
It's too early to say he's turned the corner.
Have you actually watched the games?!?
(11-27-2022, 07:08 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 06:05 PM)cincyjacket Wrote: [ -> ]Fact is TLAW has either thrown an interception or fumbled the ball on a potential game winning last drive.
This game was not an exception. He got lucky today.
You mean second game-winning drives... In 90% of those games Trevor took the lead with minutes left in the game... the defense blows it.... Then Trevor's left with 2 minutes and usually no timeouts... and two minutes is being generous.... Something tells me that you don't actually watch the games... It's either that or you have no clue what you're watching
Fun fact: It's not a game winning drive if you don't win.
(11-27-2022, 07:11 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 06:41 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly Bullseye. That's what some of us have been saying all year, be patient, let him progress and improve and you'll start to see results and performances from him.
Sadly a lot of people took the 'generational talent' tag he had put on him and expected perfection from the start and if he made a mistake or had a bad game then he was a bust. People were ready to write him off so quickly it was very weird.
When I think of these fans without patience for young QBs to progress, I think about BUCS fans after they gave away Steve Young to the 49ers. I think about the Falcons fans after they gave up on Brett Favre.
I get people wanting to win or at least be entertaining....but if you have what you think is a franchise QB, you have to give him everything he needs to succeed. He needs the right coach...the right scheme...the right surrounding talent...and time to grow and develop into that QB.
(11-27-2022, 06:43 PM)cincyjacket Wrote: [ -> ]Trevor was 1-6 in his last 7 starts. He's now 2-6.
It's too early to say he's turned the corner.
Have you actually watched the games?!?
Obviously not, I guess he just looks at the record
(11-27-2022, 06:05 PM)cincyjacket Wrote: [ -> ]Fact is TLAW has either thrown an interception or fumbled the ball on a potential game winning last drive.
This game was not an exception. He got lucky today.
On behalf of all Jaguars fans I offer you a hearty
[BLEEP] YOU!
Regardless of my opinions or nyc or that cincy troll i think we can all agree the past few weeks have given a lot of hope for our fanbase
(11-27-2022, 07:17 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Regardless of my opinions or nyc or that cincy troll i think we can all agree the past few weeks have given a lot of hope for our fanbase
And regardless of opinions, he’s shown hope way before the last 3 weeks.
(11-27-2022, 07:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 07:11 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]When I think of these fans without patience for young QBs to progress, I think about BUCS fans after they gave away Steve Young to the 49ers. I think about the Falcons fans after they gave up on Brett Favre.
I get people wanting to win or at least be entertaining....but if you have what you think is a franchise QB, you have to give him everything he needs to succeed. He needs the right coach...the right scheme...the right surrounding talent...and time to grow and develop into that QB.
Have you actually watched the games?!?
Obviously not, I guess he just looks at the record
Over these last three games, He has demonstrated improved red zone accuracy, deeper ball accuracy, a better command of the offense, better decision making, and clock management.
If he had the command he showed the last three games earlier in the year, we'd be sitting at at least 8 wins.
But he needed the right scheme, the right coaching, the right experience.
(11-27-2022, 07:20 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 07:17 PM)ChrisJagBoy Wrote: [ -> ]Regardless of my opinions or nyc or that cincy troll i think we can all agree the past few weeks have given a lot of hope for our fanbase
And regardless of opinions, he’s shown hope way before the last 3 weeks.
Shown hope, agreed but it really seems to crystalizing the last few weeks. Good on him and to the people who haven't given up.
(11-27-2022, 06:42 PM)Predator Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 06:21 PM)NoShoes Wrote: [ -> ]I don’t blame Trevor for the fumble. Offense was dead and he was trying to make a play. Blame the play calling if you want to but I’d be more disappointed the qb not try to make va play.
There wasn't a play to be made there.
He scrambled, ran out of room, and basically froze with indecision.
He should have thrown the ball away or tucked it and just taken a sack.
If you haven't found a receiver after 6 seconds you need to protect the ball, not act like you can keep extending the play while pursuit is hot on your heels.
He was ticking and running when he got blind sided. Would you rather him take a knee?
(11-27-2022, 07:11 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 06:41 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Exactly Bullseye. That's what some of us have been saying all year, be patient, let him progress and improve and you'll start to see results and performances from him.
Sadly a lot of people took the 'generational talent' tag he had put on him and expected perfection from the start and if he made a mistake or had a bad game then he was a bust. People were ready to write him off so quickly it was very weird.
When I think of these fans without patience for young QBs to progress, I think about BUCS fans after they gave away Steve Young to the 49ers. I think about the Falcons fans after they gave up on Brett Favre.
I get people wanting to win or at least be entertaining....but if you have what you think is a franchise QB, you have to give him everything he needs to succeed. He needs the right coach...the right scheme...the right surrounding talent...and time to grow and develop into that QB.
(11-27-2022, 06:43 PM)cincyjacket Wrote: [ -> ]Trevor was 1-6 in his last 7 starts. He's now 2-6.
It's too early to say he's turned the corner.
Have you actually watched the games?!?
Exactly Bullseye. It's a process and it's going to have its ups and downs. This is why most rookie QB's used to sit their first years to protect them and let them progress out of the spotlight. You had some people on here just 6-7 weeks ago saying we should draft a QB I'm round 1 this upcoming draft as a replacement.
The other thing with Lawrence, he had none of coach, scheme or talent around him last year to get better. Meyer in my opinion did more damage than goof for Lawrence and Pederson has had to undo all the negative things Lawrence learned last year. In many ways this is Lawrence's real rookie season.
(11-27-2022, 07:15 PM)cincyjacket Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 07:08 PM)nejagsfan Wrote: [ -> ]You mean second game-winning drives... In 90% of those games Trevor took the lead with minutes left in the game... the defense blows it.... Then Trevor's left with 2 minutes and usually no timeouts... and two minutes is being generous.... Something tells me that you don't actually watch the games... It's either that or you have no clue what you're watching
Fun fact: It's not a game winning drive if you don't win.
To be clear, you want Trevor to play defense too?
Shhh do not tell the haters but Lawrence has thrown 16tds to only 6 ints.
(11-27-2022, 07:06 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Lawrence dropped that fade route to Jones in his hip pocket.
https://twitter.com/NFL/status/159698377...QX1pjZX1fw
The comments on that Twitter post are comical... So many people not understanding the rules... Foot shin thigh elbow forearm shoulder counts as another foot
Incredibly impressive final drive by Lawrence. I think everyone was worried after that blown squib kick, but the good guys won today!
(11-27-2022, 07:20 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 07:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Obviously not, I guess he just looks at the record
Over these last three games, He has demonstrated improved red zone accuracy, deeper ball accuracy, a better command of the offense, better decision making, and clock management.
If he had the command he showed the last three games earlier in the year, we'd be sitting at at least 8 wins.
But he needed the right scheme, the right coaching, the right experience.
100% it was just a matter of time
(11-27-2022, 07:20 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (11-27-2022, 07:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Obviously not, I guess he just looks at the record
Over these last three games, He has demonstrated improved red zone accuracy, deeper ball accuracy, a better command of the offense, better decision making, and clock management.
If he had the command he showed the last three games earlier in the year, we'd be sitting at at least 8 wins.
But he needed the right scheme, the right coaching, the right experience.
...
What he said.
If your a fan of this team and relatively sane, you have to be excited.
(11-27-2022, 07:43 PM)rufftime Wrote: [ -> ]Incredibly impressive final drive by Lawrence. I think everyone was worried after that blown squib kick, but the good guys won today!
Don't forget that sack!
Down by 7, 3rd and 21 from the -14 1:51 with no time outs against a playoff team.
That's stealing one.