(09-18-2023, 08:43 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ] (09-18-2023, 07:54 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]This may be the first time Pederson went into some coach-speak having his players back where he's actually not believable to me.
It's like he's scrambling for the Sunday school answers and they aren't flowing.
He knows the OL are [BLEEP] up royally.
https://x.com/1010XL/status/1703806348121591986?s=20
You make me laugh. Last week PFF was the definitive authority on all things OL related as it supported your preferred narrative. This week we get crickets from you on PFF. Instead, we have you concluding DP means the opposite of what he says because of NYC ‘tea leaves’. Earlier in that same interview he faulted the backs, by the way, for not coming over and helping on the edge with pass blocking.
But in the silly belief that consistency matters to you rather than whatever suits you in the moment, here are the week two PFF grades for the line while pass blocking.
Little - 74.8
Bartch - 67.1
Fortner - 35.6
Scherff - 53.4
Harrison - 29.6
I believe that Little only faced Jones once the entire game and had the help of Bartch on a double team. Otherwise it was poor Harrison getting smoked. Scherff was sandwiched between two young guys struggling to execute their pass block responsibilities, yet he still managed to nearly double their PFF scores. The HB’s both rated in the mid-70’s for pass blocking, yet DP was not happy with the decisions they made as to where to block.
All this talk about the IOL is interesting but teams will keep trying to overpower Harrison until he can keep that outside safe. And they will bum rush the gap between Fortner and Scherff, splitting Scherff’s attention between helping outside or in and keeping the HB’s anchored in the middle so that they don’t help out wide. This constant attention of fixing the left side of the line when it is the right side that is vulnerable is an obsession verging on mania. Teams will continue attacking the right until the right stops them.
The Jags could roll out left, but then TL is a righty so that limits his play making options. Despite his arm, he’s not Pat Mahomes who is the greatest scrambling QB since Fran Tarkenton. The line has to stiffen on the right side. Perhaps with simpler schemes. Perhaps with more TE blocking. But it needs to stop teams who will go after it relentlessly while it is vulnerable.
Wow.
You still don't get it. (the pressures I reported were also from PFF!!)
OK
This will be the last time I break this down for you, so try to keep up!
You've been blathering on since middle of last year about PFF grades and ESPN win rates as if I select the ones I see fit to suit my narratives.
No, that is not it.
They are two different things.
PFF grades
can be a bit nebulous and don't always paint a clear picture of a players' game performance.
For instance - go check out Zay Jones horrible grade from Sunday. I think most intelligent humans would agree that not all incompletions are created equal and he played better than a 42 might suggest.
It's even more nebulous for OL. DB, and LB, but nonetheless the grades are useful.
You should educate yourself and read up on everything that goes into them.
This link gives the basic outline for each position. PFF used to make more detail public, but you may need to subscribe for that now. I do not.
https://profootballfocussupport.zendesk....h-position-
The ESPN win rates I quoted last year repeatedly have turned out to be quite accurate when looking at our OL performance currently - and they are quite a bit simpler. During a longer window of time than PFF allows - does your guy win or lose his blocking assignment?
Simple. It's not a grade or a rating. It's a win or a loss. Much less room for nerdy humans to color the outcome with their opinions.
Neither are a definitive authority, however. And I absolutely never said that they were. That's just some horse [BLEEP] you keep floating repeatedly.
One is a grading system.
One is an accumulated tally of passes and fails.
The definitive authority should be your own eyes watching a replay of the all 22 - but you'd have to have some semblance of an understanding of NFL football. You aren't there yet. I'll keep rooting for you though! It's tiresome to deal with the same ignorance repeatedly.
The only grade from PFF that isn't in line with all of my "narrative" as you call it- is that Bartch graded higher than what my eye test would say, but he may have had a better 2nd half than 1st. I haven't broken down the whole 2nd half focusing on OL yet.