(07-11-2024, 07:46 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-11-2024, 07:24 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, but nobody cares because you're wrong all the time.
And that's exactly how I feel about him.
I don't take advice about shame from a guy who didn't feel shame about separating children from parents at the border. Among other things.
You ever get tired of being a parrot?
(07-11-2024, 07:54 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]And I'll be candid. Do I feel ashamed on behalf of Joe Biden and the people closest to him that they let him run again? When everyone back in 2020 assumed he would be one and done? Yes. I'm a bit ashamed that I share humanity and nationality with such people.
I'm ashamed for the US that he was the best choice in 2020.
But ashamed for voting the man? [BLEEP] no! [BLEEP] you, dude.
(07-11-2024, 07:50 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]You talking about your boy Barry?
Obama did not separate children from parents at the border.
You sound triggered. Relax.
ok, can someone tell a few things?
When asked about the VP the first time he replied "I would never have selected Donald Trump VP if she was not qualified to be VP".
Why are they not asking him why he is not protecting our border.
Why are they not asking why the 4% wage increases are mostly the top 2 quartiles of wage earners (above 75%) The bottom 25% are mostly flat.
I'll not get into the 20% inflation
This was a staged event with canned questions.
(07-11-2024, 04:55 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-11-2024, 03:47 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]I guess it comes down to belief. I do not believe Trump was responsible for Jan 6th. Trump put in measures to prevent this and Pelosi Ignored them. There is a viral Video Of Nancy Peloci admitting to a driver she was responsible for the whole thing. Also I got to be honest, I could give 2 craps about Jan 6th. When I can't afford the bare necessities a riot on DC does not matter to me. How about all the Riots and the Destruction during BLM? Biden and his staff fully endorsed the "peaceful protest" while those idiots were tearing down Statues, Destroying Property and just causing Havoc? Funny you point to Jan 6 but nothing against Biden's Woke Administration and the destruction BLM caused on multiple cities that was fully endorsed by Biden. Biden was never running the country and doubt he listened to anyone.
You are not the first person to bring those things up... Maybe not even in this thread.
Pelosi took responsibility for the protestors being able to get as far as they did. She overestimated her forces and underestimated the forces that would come in that day.
Trump is responsible for them trying to come in in the first place.
Pelosi is like the rape victim admitting that she should have asked someone to walk with her to her car that night. Trump in that metaphor would be the rapist's buddy who gave the rapist cocaine and told him "go for it, she's weak and she won't remember in the morning anyhow."
Mike, stop it. You're turning E. Jean Carroll on.
Perfect blend of embarrassment to our country and just well enough to keep the dumb libs in full meltdown mode.
This is great.
I mowed the lawn rather than watch Biden's press conference. How did he do? Or should I even ask?
(07-11-2024, 08:37 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I mowed the lawn rather than watch Biden's press conference. How did he do? Or should I even ask?
About the same as the grass you mowed. Canned event, predetermined list of people to call on with specific questions. He made no attempt to hide reading from the list of people to call on and script on the podium.
Whats with that werid whisper thing he does? Kinda of spooky
(07-11-2024, 08:46 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-11-2024, 08:37 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I mowed the lawn rather than watch Biden's press conference. How did he do? Or should I even ask?
About the same as the grass you mowed. Canned event, predetermined list of people to call on with specific questions. He made no attempt to hide reading from the list of people to call on and script on the podium.
Whats with that werid whisper thing he does? Kinda of spooky
Think he learned the whispering thing in the shower with Ashley.
(07-11-2024, 07:54 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]And I'll be candid. Do I feel ashamed on behalf of Joe Biden and the people closest to him that they let him run again? When everyone back in 2020 assumed he would be one and done? Yes. I'm a bit ashamed that I share humanity and nationality with such people.
I'm ashamed for the US that he was the best choice in 2020.
But ashamed for voting the man? [BLEEP] no! [BLEEP] you, dude.
(07-11-2024, 07:50 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]You talking about your boy Barry?
Obama did not separate children from parents at the border.
Fun fact for you!
Obama deported more immigrants than any other president in US history by a very long shot. Pump the breaks on trying to prop Obama up.
(07-11-2024, 09:19 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ] (07-11-2024, 07:54 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]And I'll be candid. Do I feel ashamed on behalf of Joe Biden and the people closest to him that they let him run again? When everyone back in 2020 assumed he would be one and done? Yes. I'm a bit ashamed that I share humanity and nationality with such people.
I'm ashamed for the US that he was the best choice in 2020.
But ashamed for voting the man? [BLEEP] no! [BLEEP] you, dude.
Obama did not separate children from parents at the border.
Fun fact for you!
Obama deported more immigrants than any other president in US history by a very long shot. Pump the breaks on trying to prop Obama up.
I know that!
I said he didn't separate kids from their parents at the border.
He deported an insane number of illegal immigrants who had been here for a while. Not folks who had just arrived. All kids were left with at least one parent whenever possible.
And Obama deporting those folks was good at the time. Unemployment was stubbornly high during his first term.
(07-11-2024, 11:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-11-2024, 09:19 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: [ -> ]Fun fact for you!
Obama deported more immigrants than any other president in US history by a very long shot. Pump the breaks on trying to prop Obama up.
I know that!
I said he didn't separate kids from their parents at the border.
He deported an insane number of illegal immigrants who had been here for a while. Not folks who had just arrived. All kids were left with at least one parent whenever possible.
And Obama deporting those folks was good at the time. Unemployment was stubbornly high during his first term.
Unfortunately Obama did separate kids. There were two issues that caused it. First because children can’t be held in detention facilities for adults, during his terms about 492,970 were referred for prosecution. Second children were separated from adults when suspicion of trafficking, another outstanding warrant or insufficient proof of a family relationship. The reason there is more definitive numbers was they did not keep records of the children under Obama, that is all. They began keeping those records under Trump. Like Paul Harvey always said "and now you know the rest of the story".
On June 20, President Donald Trump signed an executive order directing Nielsen to keep families in custody together “during the pendency of any criminal improper entry or immigration proceedings involving their members” at least “to the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations.”
(07-12-2024, 12:17 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ] (07-11-2024, 11:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]I know that!
I said he didn't separate kids from their parents at the border.
He deported an insane number of illegal immigrants who had been here for a while. Not folks who had just arrived. All kids were left with at least one parent whenever possible.
And Obama deporting those folks was good at the time. Unemployment was stubbornly high during his first term.
Unfortunately Obama did separate kids. There were two issues that caused it. First because children can’t be held in detention facilities for adults, during his terms about 492,970 were referred for prosecution. Second children were separated from adults when suspicion of trafficking, another outstanding warrant or insufficient proof of a family relationship. The reason there is more definitive numbers was they did not keep records of the children under Obama, that is all. They began keeping those records under Trump. Like Paul Harvey always said "and now you know the rest of the story".
On June 20, President Donald Trump signed an executive order directing Nielsen to keep families in custody together “during the pendency of any criminal improper entry or immigration proceedings involving their members” at least “to the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations.”
On June 20th of what year?
What was the situation prior to that "direction"
I'll tell you. At that point, Trump had law enforcement separating every family unit they encountered at the border. Not just those suspected of human trafficking.
(07-12-2024, 06:50 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (07-12-2024, 12:17 AM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]Unfortunately Obama did separate kids. There were two issues that caused it. First because children can’t be held in detention facilities for adults, during his terms about 492,970 were referred for prosecution. Second children were separated from adults when suspicion of trafficking, another outstanding warrant or insufficient proof of a family relationship. The reason there is more definitive numbers was they did not keep records of the children under Obama, that is all. They began keeping those records under Trump. Like Paul Harvey always said "and now you know the rest of the story".
On June 20, President Donald Trump signed an executive order directing Nielsen to keep families in custody together “during the pendency of any criminal improper entry or immigration proceedings involving their members” at least “to the extent permitted by law and subject to the availability of appropriations.”
On June 20th of what year?
What was the situation prior to that "direction"
I'll tell you. At that point, Trump had law enforcement separating every family unit they encountered at the border. Not just those suspected of human trafficking.
This may sound overly harsh, but why is separating families automatically such a terrible injustice? These people committed a crime just by the act of entering the country (This is where all the liberal heads are buried under a mile of sand). If you take a 3-year-old on a B & E or carjacking, what do you expect the police to do with the child when you're arrested?
Mike just makes things up. He is literally a living Billy Madison academic decathlon meme.
(07-12-2024, 07:29 AM)Sneakers Wrote: [ -> ] (07-12-2024, 06:50 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]On June 20th of what year?
What was the situation prior to that "direction"
I'll tell you. At that point, Trump had law enforcement separating every family unit they encountered at the border. Not just those suspected of human trafficking.
This may sound overly harsh, but why is separating families automatically such a terrible injustice? These people committed a crime just by the act of entering the country (This is where all the liberal heads are buried under a mile of sand). If you take a 3-year-old on a B & E or carjacking, what do you expect the police to do with the child when you're arrested?
It is overly harsh because crossing the border without papers is a civil infraction, not a crime. It's also non violent. So it should not be compared to carjacking or breaking and entering.
(07-12-2024, 07:48 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Mike just makes things up. He is literally a living Billy Madison academic decathlon meme.
Prove it. Provide alternate information.
(07-11-2024, 08:16 PM)Jag149 Wrote: [ -> ]When asked about the VP the first time he replied "I would never have selected Donald Trump VP if she was not qualified to be VP".
.... just hours after introducing President Zelensky as President Putin.
...... can't wait until we go to war against South Korea ....... oops, my bad.
I just heard his whispered response on the radio. It’s creepy as hell.
If they aren't separating every person who jumps our border then they should be. Everyone should be held in solitary until they are identified, validated, adjudicated, and tossed back out of the country. End ALL immigration immediately, capture and kill the Coyotes. Deport EVERY illegal regardless of how long they've been here.
Then we can talk about resuming legal immigration. After that point any illegals that show up immediately get transported to the Canadian border and tossed over there. Time to quit being the World's blank cheque,