(09-23-2024, 09:10 PM)Eye of the Storm Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2024, 09:06 PM)jagsfan06 Wrote: [ -> ]One quarterback has complete mastery of his offense. The other one is seeing ghosts.
I remember another QB that was seeing ghosts a couple of years ago. He currently has his team 3-0 and creamed the Texans yesterday. This team needs better coaching
I wanted that guy as our coach
I just want folks to finally admit it isn't the O-Line that is main problem. I've had to hear it for an entire season in 2023.
This team has talent, but let's face it, the coaching is trash.
There are teams that turn it around when the coaching staff actually develops players and schemes properly from week to week.
We have a coaching staff that has no clue how to make players better, and what's worse, every week they just throw a game plan up against the wall like a 10 year old trying to figure out if her spaghetti is done.
(I have experienced that spaghetti situation with my daughter a few years ago, apparently YouTube is still pushing that myth)
It's just not the way to run a team.
I put in Severance. Not watching this garbage
(09-23-2024, 09:14 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2024, 09:08 PM)JaguarJosh2 Wrote: [ -> ]Just flashy enough to stick around and had to pay up.. Same situation with Dakota in Dallas
???? Trevor is not even half as good as Prescott. I guess by flashy you mean his looks? he hasn't shown any flashes since 2022.
I’m not even convinced Trevor is the best qb on our team right now. He looks totally cooked
Defense failed us tonight.
The bill’s atmosphere ate the jags up tonight
(09-23-2024, 09:12 PM)Sibelius Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2024, 09:10 PM)Protozoa Wrote: [ -> ]Sorry but if you feel Trevor sucks its 100% on Doug. It's his job to get the most out of Lawrence.
So if TL does well he's great, but if he stinks up the place it's Pedersen's fault?
That's basically what some posters insinuate.
It's complete blind loyalty - which I was unfortunately part of. How many times do we have to see a stat line like 10/38 163yds 0 tds and 2 ints before we call it for what it is?
I want a HC that doesn't have reading glasses on all the time.
(09-23-2024, 09:12 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2024, 09:08 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Every single player has been bad for us.
Everyone harps on the entire team being putrid.
It's time to shine some light on the QB who's had enough time to show even little bits of brilliance consistently - but we've yet to see that.
It all works both ways, if play calling and design was better - it would potentially make a difference but lets not kid ourselves that the players, including Trevor are not good.
I had been a vehement supporter for TLaw but enough is enough, if he truly was great we would have seen it more than just one game a year.
Dude, you've literally blamed Lawrence all game. I'm not saying Trevor is having a good game in any way, he's playing bad too but the whole team is a mess right now. D giving up TD's every drive, drops, penalties, mistakes, playcalling. It's a whole dumpster fire.
This idea that Trevor should somehow overcome all this because he got paid is ridiculous. It's a team game and if you can't do basic things right then you'll do very little right.
(09-23-2024, 09:14 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]I just want folks to finally admit it isn't the O-Line that is main problem. I've had to hear it for an entire season in 2023.
This team has talent, but let's face it, the coaching is trash.
There are teams that turn it around when the coaching staff actually develops players and schemes properly from week to week.
We have a coaching staff that has no clue how to make players better, and what's worse, every week they just throw a game plan up against the wall like a 10 year old trying to figure out if her spaghetti is done.
(I have experienced that spaghetti situation with my daughter a few years ago, apparently YouTube is still pushing that myth)
It's just not the way to run a team.
I'm not a Doug fan myself but can you tell me how do you do coach a QB that has clean pocket and sails throws that are easy to complete?
LOL, the replays of the D-Line... WOW. They don't even look like they are trying.
(09-23-2024, 09:12 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2024, 09:08 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]Every single player has been bad for us.
Everyone harps on the entire team being putrid.
It's time to shine some light on the QB who's had enough time to show even little bits of brilliance consistently - but we've yet to see that.
It all works both ways, if play calling and design was better - it would potentially make a difference but lets not kid ourselves that the players, including Trevor are not good.
I had been a vehement supporter for TLaw but enough is enough, if he truly was great we would have seen it more than just one game a year.
I doubt anyone still believes he has any chance of being a consistent MVP-level QB.
But you don't always need that level of QB, and there is only ever a handful of those guys ever in the league at a time. And you cannot just keep cycling through QB picks hoping to land that guy because it could be decades before it does.
He is definitely good enough with right development, coaching, and a better offensive scheme to be a regular playoff QB. And then once the franchise is actually that level of reasonable, you can go find your QB. Just look at Chiefs with Smith pre-mahomes, 49ers with Garrapolo or Kapernick, etc.
The beginning of the end of this game.
NH3...
(09-23-2024, 09:16 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2024, 09:14 PM)carp8dm Wrote: [ -> ]I just want folks to finally admit it isn't the O-Line that is main problem. I've had to hear it for an entire season in 2023.
This team has talent, but let's face it, the coaching is trash.
There are teams that turn it around when the coaching staff actually develops players and schemes properly from week to week.
We have a coaching staff that has no clue how to make players better, and what's worse, every week they just throw a game plan up against the wall like a 10 year old trying to figure out if her spaghetti is done.
(I have experienced that spaghetti situation with my daughter a few years ago, apparently YouTube is still pushing that myth)
It's just not the way to run a team.
I'm not a Doug fan myself but can you tell me how do you do coach a QB that has clean pocket and sails throws that are easy to complete?
Bro, all I know is that the QB in 2022 was legit.
This QB isn't. But this offense isn't the same as 2022 either. I'd rather believe that it's the QB that is the answer. I don't want to give Pederson and his boy Press another QB to prove that Trevor isn't good.
Trevor's throws have been off.
Bengals might suck as bad
Comeback is on
(09-23-2024, 09:16 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2024, 09:12 PM)Sibelius Wrote: [ -> ]So if TL does well he's great, but if he stinks up the place it's Pedersen's fault?
That's basically what some posters insinuate.
It's complete blind loyalty - which I was unfortunately part of. How many times do we have to see a stat line like 10/38 163yds 0 tds and 2 ints before we call it for what it is?
Thats not what I'm saying I'm saying Lawrence sucks and that's on Doug who was brought in to develop Lawrence.
If you can't develop the "can't miss QB" you can't be a head coach.
[BLEEP] is Trevor throwing at
(09-23-2024, 09:17 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-23-2024, 09:12 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]Everyone harps on the entire team being putrid.
It's time to shine some light on the QB who's had enough time to show even little bits of brilliance consistently - but we've yet to see that.
It all works both ways, if play calling and design was better - it would potentially make a difference but lets not kid ourselves that the players, including Trevor are not good.
I had been a vehement supporter for TLaw but enough is enough, if he truly was great we would have seen it more than just one game a year.
I doubt anyone still believes he has any chance of being a consistent MVP-level QB.
But you don't always need that level of QB, and there is only ever a handful of those guys ever in the league at a time. And you cannot just keep cycling through QB picks hoping to land that guy because it could be decades before it does.
He is definitely good enough with right development, coaching, and a better offensive scheme to be a regular playoff QB. And then once the franchise is actually that level of reasonable, you can go find your QB. Just look at Chiefs with Smith pre-mahomes, 49ers with Garrapolo or Kapernick, etc.
Yep. And when in the right scheme he HAS shown flashes of brilliance. How quickly we forget
But at this rate we’re gonna ruin his career. Because khan is gonna half butt the rebuild. AGAIN