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(09-23-2024, 10:33 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:32 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [ -> ]Trevor put 7 points on the board.

Of course. It falls on him.

The D gave up 47. Who does that fall on?

It’s useless man. It’s over for Trevor. He’s gonna leave this team the moment he can

(09-23-2024, 10:31 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:23 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]I was part of the crew that made every excuse in the world for Trevor and wanted people to exercise some patience and give him time... But the clock has been ticking and we haven't seen enough moments of competence from him either (along with the rest of the team), let alone moments of greatness consistently.

People act like everyone harps on Lawrence and Lawrence ONLY. No no, those who did that early on did so with other intentions - but this is a prime example of the definition of insanity at this point.

False.  Those who did so early on, like me, were pointing out his shortcomings.

1.  Can’t read the defense pre-snap.  Still can’t.
2.  Horrible footwork.  Still horrid.
3.  Zero pocket passing skill.  Still zero.
4.  Over-reliance on his magic arm.  Still the same.

When I first made these arguments, I made them and said TL must overcome these limitations or he’s gone-ski.  I was accused of being a troll who just wanted him to fail.  Au contraire, I wanted him to succeed and overcome these shortcomings.  But the mouth-breathers here can’t handle constructive insight, apparently, so I embraced the troll.  May as well go with what the audience demands, right?

Now I’m just dropping in for the gloat.

As a staunch Jags fan and Trevor supporter, it pains me to say that you had a point but I just wanted to give TLaw the proper time to see if things were different. Turns out, it's a push and shove type of scenario with Trevor and his lack of success here in Jax.

He hasn't been given a good enough supporting cast to make him play good - but I certainly wasn't expecting Trevor to be the type of QB that would have warranted that everyone around him needed to be great for him to play well.

I was sold a false bill of goods.

(09-23-2024, 10:35 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:33 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]The D gave up 47. Who does that fall on?

It’s useless man. It’s over for Trevor. He’s gonna leave this team the moment he can

Next man up

(09-23-2024, 10:35 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:33 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]The D gave up 47. Who does that fall on?

It’s useless man. It’s over for Trevor. He’s gonna leave this team the moment he can

And when he goes on to light it up elsewhere the same people criticising him will be saying we need a QB like him.

And the depressing cycle repeats.

(09-23-2024, 10:35 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:33 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]The D gave up 47. Who does that fall on?

It’s useless man. It’s over for Trevor. He’s gonna leave this team the moment he can

If that's the case then he should have done it before we wasted $55 million a year on him.

The team is pathetic from top to bottom. I’d prefer both Peterson and press fired but I don’t think that will happen but someone needs to go. Peterson needs to fire press and take over control of the offense for the rest the year. If he doesn’t turn it around then there needs to be sweeping changes in the offseason.

(09-23-2024, 10:28 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:26 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Surely the Defense giving up 5 TDs on the first 5 Possessions has no blame right? Oh wait that's on Lawrence also.

This is the problem. It always falls on the QB. The media will blame Trevor and while he shouldn't avoid criticism, the other people who deserve it won't get it. All were doing is slowly pushing Trevor away.

Pushing him away? Settle down the dramatics, Nancy.

(09-23-2024, 10:33 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]We scored 10 freaking points.

He IS a part of the problem. Lets not try to shield and coddle him - hes a big boy making BIG money paid like a top 3 QB that isn't playing like a TOP 25 QB.

Those QB's at the top making that type of money can lift their team up, lets be honest.

Lawrence's fault right?
https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...4515052981

(09-23-2024, 10:35 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:33 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: [ -> ]The D gave up 47. Who does that fall on?

It’s useless man. It’s over for Trevor. He’s gonna leave this team the moment he can

Okay? Trevor hasn't done this team any favors and has gotten worse 2 years straight. He just got benched for Mac Jones. Mine as well start over. Nobody saving this season.

(09-23-2024, 10:37 PM)jessepeck1213 Wrote: [ -> ]The team is pathetic from top to bottom. I’d prefer both Peterson and press fired but I don’t think that will happen but someone needs to go. Peterson needs to fire press and take over control of the offense for the rest the year. If he doesn’t turn it around then there needs to be sweeping changes in the offseason.

“We need to execute better”

(09-23-2024, 10:35 PM)AshtonEMT Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:19 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]I feel so sorry for people who actually bought season tickets and spent their hard earned money for merch/travel/etc.

This is unacceptable.

Every person in the FO, coaching staff and players.

I’ve had tickets for 18 years. It’s embarrassing.

I had tickets up until 2021.

So glad I didn't continue them. Would rather watch at home and be able to do other things when the games are out of hand before the half.

I was bummed before the season started that I was gonna miss going to the Texans game next week, but now I'm not hahaha

(09-23-2024, 10:37 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:35 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: [ -> ]It’s useless man. It’s over for Trevor. He’s gonna leave this team the moment he can

If that's the case then he should have done it before we wasted $55 million a year on him.

This.

One year starter rookie QB looks way better than our Generational QB. Wonderful

(09-23-2024, 10:37 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:33 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]We scored 10 freaking points.

He IS a part of the problem. Lets not try to shield and coddle him - hes a big boy making BIG money paid like a top 3 QB that isn't playing like a TOP 25 QB.

Those QB's at the top making that type of money can lift their team up, lets be honest.

Lawrence's fault right?
https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...4515052981

Lawrence is suppose to score points thats why hes paid big bucks or atleast compete and make up for the defense.

Defense is a wreck man. Nielsen is the issue.

(09-23-2024, 10:39 PM)Jagfan44 Wrote: [ -> ]One year starter rookie QB looks way better than our Generational QB. Wonderful

Byron Leftwich looked better. Trevor has become our Bryce Young, unfortunately.

We cant stop the easy stuff on D. Wr screens rb in the flat murder us. Cant pressure the qb. Its all bad.

(09-23-2024, 10:37 PM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:33 PM)enigma Wrote: [ -> ]We scored 10 freaking points.

He IS a part of the problem. Lets not try to shield and coddle him - hes a big boy making BIG money paid like a top 3 QB that isn't playing like a TOP 25 QB.

Those QB's at the top making that type of money can lift their team up, lets be honest.

Lawrence's fault right?
https://twitter.com/_John_Shipley/status...4515052981

The defense is dog [BLEEP] bud. We all know that...

We didn't know that Trevor just isn't "it" - and it took me until this year for that determination.

21/38 178 yards 1 TD (garbage time umbrella defense) and 1 INT.

(09-23-2024, 10:40 PM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-23-2024, 10:39 PM)Jagfan44 Wrote: [ -> ]One year starter rookie QB looks way better than our Generational QB. Wonderful

Byron Leftwich looked better. Trevor has become our Bryce Young, unfortunately.

As another poster said, can we stop the dramatics. Bryce young? That’s laughable