Quote:You brought up the defense not me.
I have no problem with a young QB making mistakes and taking risk. I do have a problem with a QB making the same exact mistakes over and over and over again. Going back to last year you can expect Bortles to make one bone headed throw which will turn into a interception every week. I'm pretty sure he leads the league in pick 6's going back to last year. Today he tries to make a pass after crossing the LOS and on the next drive he DOES THE EXACT SAME THING!!! What is wrong with him?
Most of what you say here is understandable. Sorry if I took all of the whines out on you. Honestly the throwing past the LOS were bad to watch, but what difference did it make. He was going to get tackled before the TD either way. (The first one in particular was hard to watch)
But every QB throws INTS to LBers dropping in to their zones. It happens.
I still maintain if Blake could rely on his running game to even get 3 yards per carry he wouldn't have to take as many risks.
Quote:Can't agree with that. Bortles constantly missed throws in the end zone today.
No Yeldon touches? That's a good red zone game plan?
Quote:Most of what you say here is understandable. Sorry if I took all of the whines out on you. Honestly the throwing past the LOS were bad to watch, but what difference did it make. He was going to get tackled before the TD either way. (The first one in particular was hard to watch)
But every QB throws INTS to LBers dropping in to their zones. It happens.
I still maintain if Blake could rely on his running game to even get 3 yards per carry he wouldn't have to take as many risks.
Most teams like Teddy Bridgewaters' Vikings defense can actually STOP someone. Gus can't
Quote:No Yeldon touches? That's a good red zone game plan?
Nope. The coaching staff trust Bortles more than I do.
Quote:The team's red zone game plan is terrible. It looks like they're playing to get in position for a field goal.
Contrast that with Rivers, who throws for the end zone consistently when he's in the red zone.
This is true and I blame it on the difference between a ten year vet good QB and a 2 year good QB.
Blake and the offense will get better at the redzone opportunities.
Quote:Most teams like Teddy Bridgewaters' Vikings defense can actually STOP someone. Gus can't
Aaaaaaannnnndddddddd /thread
The interceptions are here to stay for the foreseeable future so get used to them.
Quote:This team has won because of fluke plays or defensive heroics. Yeah I said it.
Miami: a personal foul helped us into field goal range. The offense did nothing the second half and it's actually the defense for once who bails us out
Buffalo: two defensive TDs. We let Manuel nearly pull off a miracle
Ravens: a fluke face mask and missed call
Titans: bailed out by Rashads punt return and defensive turnover
That is what I have been saying all along. It's a miracle this team isn't winless right now.
All 4 of our wins has been ugly. We never truly beaten an opponent, even when they are injured at a lot of key positions. We did enough to barely lose these games but won because our opponents basically gave it up.
What win did we get that we can truly boast about? I would say the Bills but we let them come back after leading by 24 points and was aided by a ghost call during the winning TD drive.
Texans beat the previously undefeated Bengals. Indy defeated the previously undefeated Broncos. Even the Titans showed some life by annihilating Tampa Bay at the start of the season.
And people here was thinking a division title and playoffs? I was over here thinking that while we do have the talent, I don't believe it until we actually get a proper NFL win and not these fluke miracle wins.
And the loss against the Chargers only helps proves my point.
People don't get it. Bortles throws the ball 40 times a game. He will ALWAYS throw 1 INT forever. Good QBs do. Good defenses don't give up 25-33 points per game. Jags will forever suck until the defense is fixed. The defense has gotten worse EVERY year Gus has been here
Quote:Most teams like Teddy Bridgewaters' Vikings defense can actually STOP someone. Gus can't
Gus can't plus I have never watched a team worse at pressuring the QB. Schemes are schemes. There are X amount of blocker and Y amount of rushers. Get the QB. There is only so much you can blame on the scheme before you realize that our guys just cannot deal.
Quote:The interceptions are here to stay for the foreseeable future so get used to them.
And I'm fine with that. Interceptions happen. Let's just try to minimize those same exact interceptions that seem to happen every week. Learn from the last one and the one before that.
Quote:Your hate of the coaches is blinding you of the obvious. None of the coaches are telling Bortles to stare down his WRs. He never took his eyes off his first read.
I'm still a fan of Bortles but at some point he's going to have to put on his big boy pants and get past this interception at inopportune time phase. He's got to learn how to take care of the ball better.
I spent 10 minutes re-winding that INT. He didnt' stare down the reciever on that play. He actually looked opposite feild first. Teo just make a lucky decision to move toward the sideline instead of toward the middle of the field. It was bad luck.
I'm not asking you to side with me. As a matter of fact, that one INT doesn't even fall on the coaching staff. It was a luck AND great play by Teo. But that INT wasn't what lost the game today. That's all I'm saying.
You may think I hate Gus Bradley. Hey, maybe you're right. But can you really say that Bradley isn't at minimul a part of the problem? To me, he's the only problem that can easily be exchanged out to make this team successfull.
I have no doubt in my mind that a better Head Coach beats this sorry Charger team, much less the clot's, bucs, and tinhorns that we lost to.
Quote:This is true and I blame it on the difference between a ten year vet good QB and a 2 year good QB.
Blake and the offense will get better at the redzone opportunities.
That's no excuse. We got J. Thomas, who is just as good as Antonio Gates.
Gates got 2 red zone TDs. Thomas has shown he can do the same. Why isn't he getting the ball in the red zone?
And it is not like we are the Chargers where Thomas is the only offensive play maker we got. We also had Hurns, Robinson, Yeldon, and Bortles can easily scramble for yards if needed.
Why the hell do we have one of the worse red zone offenses in the league with those players?
I am focusing on the coaches on this one.
Bortles wont realize his potential until the team has a reliable running game. Also, the offensive line is bad. His mobility has sort of minimized how bad it is.
Quote:That's no excuse. We got J. Thomas, who is just as good as Antonio Gates.
Gates got 2 red zone TDs. Thomas has shown he can do the same. Why isn't he getting the ball in the red zone?
And it is not like we are the Chargers where Thomas is the only offensive play maker we got. We also had Hurns, Robinson, Yeldon, and Bortles can easily scramble for yards if needed.
Why the hell do we have one of the world red zone offenses in the league with those players?
I am focusing on the coaches on this one.
Go back and watch our 3 scoring drives that ended in FGs. Bortles tried to hit Thomas a few times but the passes were off. Same with ARob. His accuracy was off today. Then his decision to tuck and run and then pass the ball past the LOS twice were terrible. He's got to do better at decision making. Either tuck and run it to the end zone or stop and make a better pass.
Quote:That's no excuse. We got J. Thomas, who is just as good as Antonio Gates.
Gates got 2 red zone TDs. Thomas has shown he can do the same. Why isn't he getting the ball in the red zone?
And it is not like we are the Chargers where Thomas is the only offensive play maker we got. We also had Hurns, Robinson, Yeldon, and Bortles can easily scramble for yards if needed.
Why the hell do we have one of the worse red zone offenses in the league with those players?
I am focusing on the coaches on this one.
J Thomas is as good as A Gates on basically no planets ever. Jus sayin.
Quote:This isn't some new phenomenon. We lack the rushers, which in turn leads to less pressures, less sacks, less turnovers. There's a reason they drafted Fowler.
No doubt. There is obviously a weakness with a 4 man rush. There is also a weakness when it come to how we coach our defense.
You cannot blame the entire lack of defensive execution on missing a rookie pass rusher. I mean, you can concede that point, can you not?
Quote:People don't get it. Bortles throws the ball 40 times a game. He will ALWAYS throw 1 INT forever. Good QBs do. Good defenses don't give up 25-33 points per game. Jags will forever suck until the defense is fixed. The defense has gotten worse EVERY year Gus has been here
-The score was only 14-9 before the half (Jags offense stalled for FGs).
-Jags had the ball with a chance to score more points
-INT gives Chargers the ball VERY DEEP in Jags territory leading to easy TD,, making it 21-9.
Is that TD on the defense? Is that the defenses fault? NO...
That situation happens in almost every game. If it's not a pick 6,, it's a turnover that gives the ball to an opponent VERY DEEP in Jags territory.
Are those points the defenses fault? Are they?
Is the Offense's inability to score TDS regularly in the redzone the defenses fault?
Also,, 2 of Bortles 3 TDs the past two games is because the special teams gave him the ball deep inside the opponents territory (last week,, Bortles started at the 5yd line because of Greene: today, Bortles started in the red zone because of a punt block). I bet that was all Bortles,, wasn't it?
Quote:Go back and watch our 3 scoring drives that ended in FGs. Bortles tried to hit Thomas a few times but the passes were off. Same with ARob. His accuracy was off today. Then his decision to tuck and run and then pass the ball past the LOS twice were terrible. He's got to do better at decision making. Either tuck and run it to the end zone or stop and make a better pass.
Yeah, I seen that. My issue is that this has been going on ALL YEAR LONG. I have seen the same at the London game. We can move the ball like we are one of the best offenses out there but once we get past the 20, we just zoned out.
Faulting Bortles is certainly fair but I can't put the full blame on him either.
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J Thomas is as good as A Gates on basically no planets ever. Jus sayin.
If we do a comparison of both players, then yeah, Gates would win that one.
But I try to avoid that because I feel it is unnecessary.
My point is that they both are pretty close in skill level. What Gates did today, I am confident Thomas can as well. He shown that in Denver, he can easily do the same here.
Which is why I am baffled by the entire "one of the worse red zone offenses" in the league. Thomas can create mismatches and win jump balls on 1-on-1 scenarios.
We need a new Head Coach. One that knows not only to score TDs but also knows how to win. I feel this team is talented enough to be on top of this weak division and yet we can't truly beat anyone completely.
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Quote:-The score was only 14-9 before the half (Jags offense stalled for FGs).
-Jags had the ball with a chance to score more points
-INT gives Chargers the ball VERY DEEP in Jags territory leading to easy TD,, making it 21-9.
Is that TD on the defense? Is that the defenses fault? NO...
That situation happens in almost every game. If it's not a pick 6,, it's a turnover that gives the ball to an opponent VERY DEEP in Jags territory.
Are those points the defenses fault? Are they?
Is the Offense's inability to score TDS regularly in the redzone the defenses fault?
Also,, 2 of Bortles 3 TDs the past two games is because the special teams gave him the ball deep inside the opponents territory (last week,, Bortles started at the 5yd line because of Greene: today, Bortles started in the red zone because of a punt block). I bet that was all Bortles,, wasn't it?
Not gonna argue with someone inept enough to not realize that this years defense has allowed MORE points PER GAME than ANY Jags D in jags history.......yes, it's Blakes fault. Clowns