Quote:No doubt. There is obviously a weakness with a 4 man rush. There is also a weakness when it come to how we coach our defense.
You cannot blame the entire lack of defensive execution on missing a rookie pass rusher. I mean, you can concede that point, can you not?
Of course not. And it's not just him. Senderrick Marks being injured and lost for the year is just as huge if not even more.
Another thing is that Bortles is not only on pace to shatter the franchise QB TD record, but he is also on pace to have the 2nd most passing yards in franchise history. He'll be just shy of Mark Brunell's 1996 stats where Brunell was in his 2nd year of the Jaguars (not a rookie of course).
Comparison of Brunell's stats (1996) to Bortles stats (2015) through first 11 games:
Brunell (11 games):
3,080 yards passing
14 TDs
18 Ints
252 yards rushing
2 rushing TD's
4-7 Record
Bortles (11 games)
2,952 yards passing
22 TD's
13 Ints
255 yards rushing
0 rushing TD's
4-7 Record
As we can see, Bortles TDs and Ints are superior to Brunell's during this 11 game stretch.
But that doesn't tell the whole story of course.
Now I was about 4 going on 5 years of age during the 1996 season for the Jaguars and I don't remember much, so I have a question. How much better was the defense back then compared to the defense of now?
And besides Brunell having the advantage at the LT position, how much better were the RB's back then as compared to now? (Yeldon vs. Means)
Quote:Another thing is that Bortles is not only on pace to shatter the franchise QB TD record, but he is also on pace to have the 2nd most passing yards in franchise history. He'll be just shy of Mark Brunell's 1996 stats where Brunell was in his 2nd year of the Jaguars (not a rookie of course).
Comparison of Brunell's stats (1996) to Bortles stats (2015) through first 11 games:
Brunell (11 games):
3,080 yards passing
14 TDs
18 Ints
252 yards rushing
2 rushing TD's
4-7 Record
Bortles (11 games)
2,952 yards passing
22 TD's
13 Ints
255 yards rushing
0 rushing TD's
4-7 Record
As we can see, Bortles TDs and Ints are superior to Brunell's during this 11 game stretch.
But that doesn't tell the whole story of course.
Now I was about 4 going on 5 years of age during the 1996 season for the Jaguars and I don't remember much, so I have a question. How much better was the defense back then compared to the defense of now?
And besides Brunell having the advantage at the LT position, how much better were the RB's back then as compared to now? (Yeldon vs. Means)
Yup......we used to have a defense who could stop someone like John Elway. Comparing Tom Coughlin to Gus Bradley is laughable. Gus would be Tom's water boy
Quote:Not gonna argue with someone inept enough to not realize that this years defense has allowed MORE points PER GAME than ANY Jags D in jags history.......yes, it's Blakes fault. Clowns
Well, in retrospect, that INT hurts badly though and was clearly a difference maker. The red zone offense is another huge difference maker.
While I do feel that the Jaguars defense is not really good, I also feel that they did enough to help us win close games but didn't because we can't score more than 2 offensive TDs a game, no matter who the opponent is.
We need the likes of Denver's defense to make up for that and that is simply not feasible on a consistent basis.
Quote:-The score was only 14-9 before the half (Jags offense stalled for FGs).
-Jags had the ball with a chance to score more points
-INT gives Chargers the ball VERY DEEP in Jags territory leading to easy TD,, making it 21-9.
Is that TD on the defense? Is that the defenses fault? NO...
That situation happens in almost every game. If it's not a pick 6,, it's a turnover that gives the ball to an opponent VERY DEEP in Jags territory.
Are those points the defenses fault? Are they?
Is the Offense's inability to score TDS regularly in the redzone the defenses fault?
Also,, 2 of Bortles 3 TDs the past two games is because the special teams gave him the ball deep inside the opponents territory (last week,, Bortles started at the 5yd line because of Greene: today, Bortles started in the red zone because of a punt block). I bet that was all Bortles,, wasn't it?
So lets switch it up, was the 80 yard drive in the fourth quarter aided by a fourth down qb run knowing a TD would be impossible to overcome, Blake's fault?
I don't want record stats.....I want ugly wins.
Quote:Not gonna argue with someone inept enough to not realize that this years defense has allowed MORE points PER GAME than ANY Jags D in jags history.......yes, it's Blakes fault. Clowns
Lol. I think the inept one is the guy who can't fathom that:
-Pick 6's
-Fumble return TD (tampa)
-Deep INT resulting in TDs (Chargers, Ravens)
ALL GET INCLUDED IN PPG ALLOWED. Bortles and the offense are at least responsible for 42 points going the other way this season (and that's what I can think of off top of my head).
Yup, those are all points against the defense. Inept, LOL
Quote:So lets switch it up, was the 80 yard drive in the fourth quarter aided by a fourth down qb run knowing a TD would be impossible to overcome, Blake's fault?
Where did I day that was Blakes fault? Nowhere.
Both the defense and offense are at fault for thus teams problems,, and yes, that includes Bortles too.
Quote:Where did I day that was Blakes fault? Nowhere.
Both the defense and offense are at fault for thus teams problems,, and yes, that includes Bortles too.
Disagree....Bortles is actually having the best offensive season in Jags history. He's hardly a problem. If the Jags had Teddy's 17 ppg Vikings defense the Jags would be (7-4) right now EASY
Quote:Where did I day that was Blakes fault? Nowhere.
Both the defense and offense are at fault for thus teams problems,, and yes, that includes Bortles too.
Not saying he doesn't share the blame.
Quote:Disagree....Bortles is actually having the best offensive season in Jags history. He's hardly a problem. If the Jags had Teddy's 17 ppg Vikings defense the Jags would be (7-4) right now EASY
Bortles is a problem. Those INTs hurt badly and have played a role in some of our losses......however, Bortles is also one of the main reasons why we are even close to winning the majority of our games this season.
With the good and the bad that he has displayed, I am fine with it. If we can just get the run game going, fix the red zone offense, and get a effective 4-man rush, we are a playoff team.
As for the cover defense, I am going to give Gus the benefit of the doubt and say that our players is terrible at man-to-man coverage as a result. I could be wrong but I can't see myself thinking I know more about an NFL defense than a proven NFL defensive coordinator and current NFL head coach.
Quote:Disagree....Bortles is actually having the best offensive season in Jags history. He's hardly a problem. If the Jags had Teddy's 17 ppg Vikings defense the Jags would be (7-4) right now EASY
Just answer me this,, I'm curious.
-The TD by the Chargers at the end of the half (the INT that gave them the ball VERY DEEP in Jags territory),, is that the defenses fault?
Quote:Yes.
Lol. Okay,, technically.
Personally,, I can't expect the defense to have to defend starting out in opponents redzone and always stop them to FGs. That's just me.
Now,
Critical drives late in the 4th when only down 1 score? Yeah,, that's terrible.
Quote:Just answer me this,, I'm curious.
-The TD by the Chargers at the end of the half (the INT that gave them the ball VERY DEEP in Jags territory),, is that the defenses fault?
Yes!! Why can't we hold teams to FGs like the Vikings do? Oh yeah, because Gus Bradley is inept
Rivers may or may not be a scrub at this point.. but he WAS 2-8
We need a mediator in this thread. Where's baconater? Oh wait, 40% comp.,2 picks, and 6 y p a. He wont be here today
Quote:Yes!! Why can't we hold teams to FGs like the Vikings do? Oh yeah, because Gus Bradley is inept
Fair enough.
But, if that situation didn't happen frequently, I'd agree. But, the more it happens, more likely opponents will get a TD.
Quote:Fair enough.
But, if that situation didn't happen frequently, I'd agree. But, the more it happens, more likely opponents will get a TD.
All teams score TDs on the Jags D...hence the worst defense PPG allowed in Jags history.....that's.the point