Quote:The bottom line is, these frat boys are being punished for exorcising their First Amendment Right and it's all due to political correctness.
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the First Amendment means and how it protects US citizens.
Quote:I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the First Amendment means and how it protects US citizens.
Yeah it is more along the lines of cultural discrimination.
Quote:Yeah it is more along the lines of cultural discrimination.
Oh please go on and explain this cultural discrimination.
Quote:Oh please go on and explain this cultural discrimination.
I can't. It shouldn't exist for any culture and is a silly notion. I am trying to think like a leftist.
But I wonder if a group of Syrians put on a poster that they were going to convert your daughters to Islam, put burqas on them, and ban eating pork would get suspended from school...
Quote:I can't. It shouldn't exist for any culture and is a silly notion. I am trying to think like a leftist.
But I wonder if a group of Syrians put on a poster that they were going to convert your daughters to Islam, put burqas on them, and ban eating pork would get suspended from school...
Sometimes, when trying to make a point, idiocy just rises up. Sometimes you can't can't stop it. Did you even try?
Quote:I can't. It shouldn't exist for any culture and is a silly notion. I am trying to think like a leftist.
But I wonder if a group of Syrians put on a poster that they were going to convert your daughters to Islam, put burqas on them, and ban eating pork would get suspended from school...
So you have made two outrageous claims in two threads with absolutely nothing to back up either. I guess that puts you on a roll today?
Quote:So you have made two outrageous claims in two threads with absolutely nothing to back up either. I guess that puts you on a roll today?
I admit my claim for false flag was outrageous, don't really care though.
What did I claim here?
Quote:I admit my claim for false flag was outrageous, don't really care though.
What did I claim here?
I guess you are claiming it was a joke? I missed that part of your reply.
Quote:I guess you are claiming it was a joke? I missed that part of your reply.
Not claiming a joke, but pointing out a double standard.
It was kind of like Walmart refusing to make a confederate cake but gladly making an ISIS cake.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/walmart-a...d=32103721
Quote:It was kind of like Walmart refusing to make a confederate cake but gladly making an ISIS cake.
Oh good freaking nonspecific deity, not this crap again.
Quote:Not claiming a joke, but pointing out a double standard.
It was kind of like Walmart refusing to make a confederate cake but gladly making an ISIS cake.
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/walmart-a...d=32103721
Quote:Oh good freaking nonspecific deity, not this crap again.
The article clearly states walmart "gladly" makes ISIS cakes. What's that? It doesn't? Well gee.....
Quote:The article clearly states walmart "gladly" makes ISIS cakes. What's that? It doesn't? Well gee.....
Oh stop. Did they object to making the ISIS cake in any way, shape, or form? No, they didn't. They made it and sold it. They also "gladly" did it because Wal-Mart states their employees are always happy to assist. :thanks:
Quote:Oh stop. Did they object to making the ISIS cake in any way, shape, or form? No, they didn't. They "gladly" did it because Wal-Mart states their employees are always happy to assist. :thanks:
Stop what? Pointing out that you are just making stuff up?
Which is more likely. That walmart is glad to make an ISIS cakes or that the person making the cake had no clue what it was while knowing what the racist flag is.
Quote:Stop what? Pointing out that you are just making stuff up?
Which is more likely. That walmart is glad to make an ISIS cakes or that the person making the cake had no clue what it was while knowing what the racist flag is.
What did I make up? It happened. Only after the public outrage did they stop. If the story hadn't gone viral and come back on them I have no doubt they would continue to gladly make ISIS cakes.
Quote:What did I make up? It happened. Only after the public outrage did they stop. If the story hadn't gone viral and come back on them I have no doubt they would continue to gladly make ISIS cakes.
What did you make up? There very thing in bolded right there. You just doubled down on fabricated assertions that you cannot back.
Quote:Oh stop. Did they object to making the ISIS cake in any way, shape, or form? No, they didn't. They made it and sold it. They also "gladly" did it because Wal-Mart states their employees are always happy to assist. :thanks:
I'm sick of this argument, so I'll just make three points then walk away and laugh at everyone who still wants to make this an issue.
1. Walmart never anticipated that some hick with an axe to grind would walk in and ask for an ISIS cake.
2. The employee had almost certainly never seen an ISIS cake before, and had no idea what they'd been asked to create.
3. In Walmart's apology, they are quick to point out that the cake should never have been made, and wouldn't have been if the employee that the hick took advantage of (or anyone else, for that matter) had known what they were looking at.
Now let this non-story die. A redneck with an axe to grind decided to make an example of Walmart by exploiting an employee who was asked to make a cake with a symbol that they had no knowledge of. Try printing a Nazi flag and taking that in to Walmart to have it put on a cake. Bet you they won't do it. Know why? Because a swastika is a known symbol of hate. It wasn't a known symbol of hate until the 1930's, and if a Walmart baker had been asked in 1933 to print a Nazi flag cake, they probably would have, because they'd have had no idea what it was and no reason to believe it was nefarious.
Quote:What did you make up? There very thing in bolded right there. You just doubled down on fabricated assertions that you cannot back.
Why are you making me argue on this of all things.
http://corporate.walmart.com/our-story/w...rt/culture
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<p class="">They gladly made the cake.
Quote:Well... If you would start a thread about this, then we actually have something that may have swayed me to your thinking... But those free speech zone are not about being PC, they are about the University trying to control and limit speech. There's nothing there that say's PC is destroying anything. That's an authoritarian approach to marginalize students from protesting...
But free speech zones versus stupid frat boys are 2 different things!
Also, I never knew about this free speech zone nonsense. Thanks for informing me. I would hope that students would ignore these zone if they really had a beef...
I just might start a new thread regarding that. It could make for some interesting discussion.
Quote:I'm sick of this argument, so I'll just make three points then walk away and laugh at everyone who still wants to make this an issue.
1. Walmart never anticipated that some hick with an axe to grind would walk in and ask for an ISIS cake.
2. The employee had almost certainly never seen an ISIS cake before, and had no idea what they'd been asked to create.
3. In Walmart's apology, they are quick to point out that the cake should never have been made, and wouldn't have been if the employee that the hick took advantage of (or anyone else, for that matter) had known what they were looking at.
Now let this non-story die. A redneck with an axe to grind decided to make an example of Walmart by exploiting an employee who was asked to make a cake with a symbol that they had no knowledge of. Try printing a Nazi flag and taking that in to Walmart to have it put on a cake. Bet you they won't do it. Know why? Because a swastika is a known symbol of hate. It wasn't a known symbol of hate until the 1930's, and if a Walmart baker had been asked in 1933 to print a Nazi flag cake, they probably would have, because they'd have had no idea what it was and no reason to believe it was nefarious.
Nazi flag in 1933 wasn't nefarious. ISIS flag was, at the time of the story and right now, nefarious.