Quote:I'm not sure how accurate the following information is. But according to MLive Lions beat writer Kyle Meinke, the Dolphins are now around $ 15 million under the salary cap. W/o saying, that amount is still eons from the Jaguars salary cap availability level:
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/03/dolphins_joins_list_of_possibl.html'>http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/03/dolphins_joins_list_of_possibl.html</a>
They've cleared more than $13 million in cap space in the past week by cutting guard Nate Garner, cornerback Cortland Finnegan and receivers Brian Hartline and Brandon Gibson. They still don't have a ton to spend -- in fact, they have less than the Lions -- but they're up to about $15 million after their recent moves.
If the report of Miami being a done deal is true, then this is definitely a head scratcher.
Quote:I am sorry, but no thanks to Suh. Or Cobb for that matter. Do people really want to go back to the good ole days of cap hell? Because to sign a big free agent we'd be mortgaging the future for the present, and frankly this team isn't one player away.
But this is a pretty generous logical leap you are taking.
You are making the assumption that signing a big name free agent or two would put this team in cap hell.
It won't.
First off, the team is/will be mandated to spend up to 89% of the salary cap at least by next year. Eventually the team will HAVE to spend cap money, whether you want to or not.
Secondly, the team is some SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS ($60,000,000) under the cap. There is no way signing both Suh and Cobb (assuming a worst case scenario in your eyes) would eat up all of that cap space.
Furthermore, it's not as if this team has players currently on the roster that the team desperately needs to re-sign. The current collective bargaining agreement precludes teams from re-signing players until they are in their fourth year. Assuming we have hit on Joeckel, Cyprien, Gratz, Bortles, Robinson, Hurns, lee, et al, we won't need to re-sign the 2013 draft picks until next year at the earliest. Prior to 2013, we have missed on so many draft choices, we have nobody we are really pressed to re-sign this year, anyway.
Finally, one of the reasons this team's golden age was under Coughlin is because this team spent liberally and often wisely in free agency. It is safe to assume that without Leon Searcy, Jeff Lageman, Joel Smeenge, Keenan McCardell, etc., this team would not have reached two AFC Championship games. The biggest danger to any team isn't necessarily reckless free agency spending. It's the draft day failures that make the free agency spending necessary in the first place.
Quote:If the report of Miami being a done deal is true, then this is definitely a head scratcher.
Agreed. It doesn't add up.
While I believe there's a good chance contact has been made in one form or another involving Jimmy Sexton and the Dolphins ( as well as some other teams ), I strongly believe a contract agreement isn't in place with Ndamukong Suh.
Quote:But this is a pretty generous logical leap you are taking.
You are making the assumption that signing a big name free agent or two would put this team in cap hell.
It won't.
First off, the team is/will be mandated to spend up to 89% of the salary cap at least by next year. Eventually the team will HAVE to spend cap money, whether you want to or not.
Secondly, the team is some SIXTY MILLION DOLLARS ($60,000,000) under the cap. There is no way signing both Suh and Cobb (assuming a worst case scenario in your eyes) would eat up all of that cap space.
Furthermore, it's not as if this team has players currently on the roster that the team desperately needs to re-sign. The current collective bargaining agreement precludes teams from re-signing players until they are in their fourth year. Assuming we have hit on Joeckel, Cyprien, Gratz, Bortles, Robinson, Hurns, lee, et al, we won't need to re-sign the 2013 draft picks until next year at the earliest. Prior to 2013, we have missed on so many draft choices, we have nobody we are really pressed to re-sign this year, anyway.
Finally, one of the reasons this team's golden age was under Coughlin is because this team spent liberally and often wisely in free agency. It is safe to assume that without Leon Searcy, Jeff Lageman, Joel Smeenge, Keenan McCardell, etc., this team would not have reached two AFC Championship games. The biggest danger to any team isn't necessarily reckless free agency spending. It's the draft day failures that make the free agency spending necessary in the first place.
Great post, Bullseye.
Looking at the situation from a Jaguars perspective, it makes a great amount of sense to sign players with a proven track record, are durable, and are young enough to have many more high quality seasons ahead. Especially, players with good work ethics that one can feel comfortable that the commitment will remain when they sign a contract next week or in the weeks ahead.
Quote: Great post, Bullseye.
Looking at the situation from a Jaguars perspective, it makes a great amount of sense to sign players with a proven track record, are durable, and are young enough to have many more high quality seasons ahead. Especially, players with good work ethics that one can feel comfortable that the commitment will remain when they sign a contract next week or in the weeks ahead.
Thank you.
One last point.
Let's assume that spending on big name free agents puts this team in danger of the cap hell we saw in the early 2000s.
Would the results be any worse than what we have seen the past few years?
Quote:Thank you.
One last point.
Let's assume that spending on big name free agents puts this team in danger of the cap hell we saw in the early 2000s.
Would the results be any worse than what we have seen the past few years?
Even if by some very high unlikely chance the results were worse, barring an 0-16 season, the results being worse wouldn't be significant compared to the struggles the Jaguars have had in recent seasons.
The upside of signing FA's that can realistically provide a major jump in the standings and be part of a playoff formula the Jaguars team brass is looking to put together over the next few years, is far greater than any downside. The Jaguars can approach the next two FA classes with the mind set of being an expansion team. It's a position a team doesn't want to get into but its a position that provides tremendous opportunities.
Would much rather spend money while all these good players are out there this year, next year might not have as good a group when we have to spend it.
Quote:Looks like the Raiders are firing first lol
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...-next-week
GO JAGS!!
The rumors have already been off the charts. It's only going to increase in the coming days, barring something unexpected.
The Raiders can afford to pay Ndamukong Suh. But the California State Tax is going to raise the price of what they will have to pay to have a chance at signing Suh.
That's where I see him going. His style of play just fits the raiders, add in Mack and its a match made in heaven.
Yep that would be great. Keep him away from the Colts! I like Suh but we should stay away. We have other needs. Are you ready to pay him 20 million per year?
Oehser indicated last week on Dempsey's show that he didn't think the Jags would really target Suh early in free agency. He said he thought they'd have other higher priority targets to pursue.
It makes sense he'd be on Oakland's radar since they have the money and a good scheme for him. If the Jags decided to jump into that mix, it would make for an interesting bit of negotiation.
As long as he doesn't wind up with a division for when the dust settles, that's fine.
Quote: The rumors have already been off the charts. It's only going to increase in the coming days, barring something unexpected.
The Raiders can afford to pay Ndamukong Suh. But the California State Tax is going to raise the price of what they will have to pay to have a chance at signing Suh.
Taking my teal colored glasses off, is there a better fit for Suh than the Raiders? He embodies the dirty mindset that the Raiders players have been known for since the 70's.
Nah, it's a guarantee that he is going to Miami, remember?
Raiders are gonna have to pony up a LOT to offset what he'd lose in state taxes. What is Cali, like 13%?
Jags should jump in the mix just for the sake of driving the price up for him.
Quote:Yep that would be great. Keep him away from the Colts! I like Suh but we should stay away. We have other needs. Are you ready to pay him 20 million per year?
This is more my thought, but a lot of people here are really against it. I'd rather fix 5 or 6 positions and get some lineman than take a large chunk of our cash to one guy. We have Sen'derrick and a decent defensive line.....I'm fine with filling other needs. We have the draft for a lineman as well.
As long as he doesn't go to the colts