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So Suh is not going to be Franchised by the Lions.

 

What kind of contract will he be looking for?

 

Let's use the JJ Watt contract as a starting point.

 

Year                            Salary                       Bonuses                         Cap Hit

2015                          9.969 Mil                    12 Mil                             21.969 Mil

2016                          10.5 Mil                        2 Mil                              12.5 Mil

2017                           10.5 Mil                       2 MIl                              12.5 Mil

2018                           11 Mil                          2 MIl                               13 Mil

2019                            13 Mil                                                                13 Mil

2020                            15.5 Mil                                                              15.5 Mil

2021                             17.5 Mil                                                             17.5 Mil

 

 

So JJ Watt got a 7 year deal for 106 Mil - averaging 15.14 Mil

 

What will Suh get?

 

I say 6 years for 110 Mil or 18.33 Mil/yr average

 

If the money is paid upfront like it was done with JJ Watt then the cap hit will decrease after the 1st year.

 

Suh is 28 years old - so his prime years are say the next 4 years.

 

I think he will want $75 Mil guaranteed over the first 4 years (or 18.75 Mil/yr average)

 

This is doable for the Jags 

It is pretty crazy that a few months back, nobody wanted Suh on the roster. Now that it is actually a possibility, people seem to be changing their tune a little bit.

 

My only fear with Suh is he gets fat and happy like Albert Haynesworth did when he got paid. 

 

I'd be curious to see the percentage of players who perform at the same level after getting mega contracts. I'm sure this is part of Tony's analytics that will help determine if Suh is a good fit here.

Quote:It is pretty crazy that a few months back, nobody wanted Suh on the roster. Now that it is actually a possibility, people seem to be changing their tune a little bit.

 

My only fear with Suh is he gets fat and happy like Albert Haynesworth did when he got paid. 

 

I'd be curious to see the percentage of players who perform at the same level after getting mega contracts. I'm sure this is part of Tony's analytics that will help determine if Suh is a good fit here.

I remember when some on this board argued that Alualu was better than Suh.

Quote:It is pretty crazy that a few months back, nobody wanted Suh on the roster. Now that it is actually a possibility, people seem to be changing their tune a little bit.


My only fear with Suh is he gets fat and happy like Albert Haynesworth did when he got paid.


I'd be curious to see the percentage of players who perform at the same level after getting mega contracts. I'm sure this is part of Tony's analytics that will help determine if Suh is a good fit here.

Unlike fat albert, Suh endorses Subway.. Maybe he still eats fresh..

I think Mario Williams has lived up to his contract with the Buffalo Bills.

Quote:I think Mario Williams has lived up to his contract with the Buffalo Bills.

 

For every Mario, there is a Fat Albert. Do you roll the dice?

Quote:I remember when some on this board argued that Alualu was better than Suh.

 

Wow, I just threw up in my mouth.

If the Jags signed Suh, would you move SenDerrick Marks to the 5 Tech plus rotate with Suh at the 3 spot.

Quote:I remember when some on this board argued that Alualu was better than Suh.

 

The problem was, everybody thought Jeans Miff was so smart because he hit on Terrance Knighton in the 3rd and everybody just assumed he was smarter than every other GM at the time. Even though people didn't know who AluAlu was when we drafted him, there was blind trust in Jean.

Quote:Wow, I just threw up in my mouth.

 

There were also those who argued Derek Cox was better than Revis because PFF said so.

Quote:If the Jags signed Suh, would you move SenDerrick Marks to the 5 Tech plus rotate with Suh at the 3 spot.

 

If it was my choice to make, I'd make it a steady rotation between Marks, Miller, and Suh with a little Hood and Jones sprinkled in at both DT positions. I'd have no problem with a DT combination of Suh (3) and Miller (0/1), Suh (0/1) and Marks (3), and Marks (3) and Miller (0/1).

I don't think Jacksonville would benefit from this signing to be honest. We aren't at that point of the rebuild where a signing like this would make a huge difference in the W/L column. I'd prefer they get more free agents.

If somebody said you could sign Ndamukong Suh, or you could sign Devin McCourty and Randall Cobb for the same price, I would take McCourty and Cobb every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'd rather see the team sign 2 high quality talents rather than 1 super high talent.

We have entered the TWILIGHT ZONE and REALITY has nothing to do with this period of time.

 

This period of time will pass, but right now, ANYTHING is POSSIBLE and HOPE springs ETERNAL!

Quote:If somebody said you could sign Ndamukong Suh, or you could sign Devin McCourty and Randall Cobb for the same price, I would take McCourty and Cobb every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'd rather see the team sign 2 high quality talents rather than 1 super high talent.

It depends upon who the players are and whether you think the super high talent can make game changing plays.

 

I would take Suh over a combo of McCourty and Cobb.

Quote:It depends upon who the players are and whether you think the super high talent can make game changing plays.

 

I would take Suh over a combo of McCourty and Cobb.

I understand what you are saying, but for me it comes down to 2>1. If we desperately needed a DT, I would take Suh, but as the needs stand I take McCourty and Cobb, just my opinion.

Quote:If somebody said you could sign Ndamukong Suh, or you could sign Devin McCourty and Randall Cobb for the same price, I would take McCourty and Cobb every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'd rather see the team sign 2 high quality talents rather than 1 super high talent.

Dude... We can get all 3!


If we do sign Suh and Leonard is on the board, do we still take him? I would.

Suh might have a bigger impact on the Jags Defense than what either McCourty and Cobb could do for this team.

 

Suh is potentially that impactful of a player.

Quote:Suh might have a bigger impact on the Jags Defense than what either McCourty and Cobb could do for this team.

 

Suh is potentially that impactful of a player.

 

He's one of the best interior DL the league has seen in 25-30 years.