Quote:BINGORAMMA
it always goes back to the QB, don't care how you spin it
Well sometimes a guy does run free, an athletic QB might still make a play of it, but I don't expect Henne to.
The best you could expect from Henne is he knows what he's looking at defensively and makes the correct throw decisively at the depth of his drop, which he didn't do.
FBT is obsessed with what happened with the rush on this play, but that's not really relevant. Sure bad QBs get caught up staring at the rush, it's why guys like Henne and Gabbert are so bad.
A good QB makes the right throw here, a great QB somehow makes that pocket work, steps up, and hits a guy breaking down the field.
Either way Henne is bad, he's the problem, and that's the way the NFL wants it.
Get a good QB or be terrible.
Quote:Yeah, I've been watching NFL football for more than 30 years. I understand the expectations. I also am smart enough to recognize that Chad Henne isn't a top tier QB and that while he is the current starter, he has deficiencies. What you clearly don't grasp is that while Henne is not a top shelf QB, he is the better option right now to be on the field as far as the coaching staff is concerned. Based on how poorly the line has played, I can't say as I blame them.
you're off base here. way off base.
Quote:I don't think it's that simple. I think a top 10 QB would definitely help this team but it wouldn't turn them into contenders or even competitive until the defense can get the coverage issues sorted out and the OL can gel and at least play competently. Same for the reciever corps. There are a lot of holes on this team right now.
Again, you don't have a clue what you're talking about. It's not the line. It's not the defense. Clearly, for the non-thinking fan, it's all about Henne. Get with the program.
Quote:Come on Man! your saying that through his entire career he has never been on a good enough team to have a winning record! As I posted earlier only three games last year did he score over twenty points, twenty points!
Look at the guys career. He's been on bad teams and has constantly had to learn new systems. A great QB might overcome that sure but we've established already that he's more suited to be a backup.
Quote:Well sometimes a guy does run free, an athletic QB might still make a play of it, but I don't expect Henne to.
The best you could expect from Henne is he knows what he's looking at defensively and makes the correct throw decisively at the depth of his drop, which he didn't do.
FBT is obsessed with what happened with the rush on this play, but that's not really relevant. Sure bad QBs get caught up staring at the rush, it's why guys like Henne and Gabbert are so bad.
A good QB makes the right throw here, a great QB somehow makes that pocket work, steps up, and hits a guy breaking down the field.
Either way Henne is bad, he's the problem, and that's the way the NFL wants it.
Get a good QB or be terrible.
And you seem to think someone here is suggesting Henne is a good QB. He's not. Nobody has said anything of the sort. Keep trying though. As long as you can focus on the screen cap and not actually watch the play, you're giving rocdee warm and fuzzy feelings inside.
Quote:Well sometimes a guy does run free, an athletic QB might still make a play of it, but I don't expect Henne to.
The best you could expect from Henne is he knows what he's looking at defensively and makes the correct throw decisively at the depth of his drop, which he didn't do.
FBT is obsessed with what happened with the rush on this play, but that's not really relevant. Sure bad QBs get caught up staring at the rush, it's why guys like Henne and Gabbert are so bad.
A good QB makes the right throw here, a great QB somehow makes that pocket work, steps up, and hits a guy breaking down the field.
Either way Henne is bad, he's the problem, and that's the way the NFL wants it.
Get a good QB or be terrible.
FBT has gone ALL IN on henne so he has to go down with the ship. facts, and just pure logic and understanding of the game be darned!
Quote:I don't think it's that simple. I think a top 10 QB would definitely help this team but it wouldn't turn them into contenders or even competitive until the defense can get the coverage issues sorted out and the OL can gel and at least play competently. Same for the reciever corps. There are a lot of holes on this team right now.
I didn't say a top 10 QB makes us contenders or even winners, I said he makes the Jaguars competitive, and one would.
Right now, the Jaguars are only competitive with other total bottom feeders.
Quote:you're off base here. way off base.
Shocker. You missed the point.
Quote:FBT has gone ALL IN on henne so he has to go down with the ship. facts, and just pure logic and understanding of the game be darned!
This is truly one of the dumber things you've posted, and you have some real gems.
Evidently, recognizing that the team is losing for a variety of reasons, Henne being just ONE component, is somehow going all in for Henne in that pea brain of yours.
Do you pass out if you try to chew gum and walk at the same time?
Quote:Either way Henne is bad, he's the problem, and that's the way the NFL wants it.
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Henne is a problem.
Maybe the most important problem.
But I strongly disagree with the notion he is the offense's ONLY problem.
Quote:I didn't say a top 10 QB makes us contenders or even winners, I said he makes the Jaguars competitive, and one would.
Right now, the Jaguars are only competitive with other total bottom feeders.
broham, i think you're wasting your time. everything is black and white to FBT.
you got season tickets?
would love to watch a game with someone who understands it.
Quote:(emphasis added)
Henne is a problem.
Maybe the most important problem.
But I strongly disagree with the notion he is the offense's ONLY problem.
Well, then you don't know anything about the NFL. Just ask the luminary, rocdee.
Quote:And you seem to think someone here is suggesting Henne is a good QB. He's not. Nobody has said anything of the sort. Keep trying though. As long as you can focus on the screen cap and not actually watch the play, you're giving rocdee warm and fuzzy feelings inside.
Then what are you arguing about? That the Jaguars don't have a top offensive line unit? I'll agree with that.
My point is that bad QBs make the offensive line look much worse than it is while great QBs make their offensive line look much better than it is.
Blaming the offensive line for Henne's terrible performance is misguided, you could put him on the 49ers or Seattle and he'd still be holding those teams back toward mediocrity in spite of their significant talent differential over the Jaguars.
Quote:broham, i think you're wasting your time. everything is black and white to FBT.
you got season tickets?
would love to watch a game with someone who understands it.
Did mommy and daddy buy season tickets for you? That was so nice of them.
look at FBT looking for support lol
Quote:(emphasis added)
Henne is a problem.
Maybe the most important problem.
But I strongly disagree with the notion he is the offense's ONLY problem.
This is my sentiment as well, the Jaguars obviously have issues all over the board, but when you're QB is bad, that's the most important entity.
Quote:Then what are you arguing about? That the Jaguars don't have a top offensive line unit? I'll agree with that.
My point is that bad QBs make the offensive line look much worse than it is while great QBs make their offensive line look much better than it is.
Blaming the offensive line for Henne's terrible performance is misguided, you could put him on the 49ers or Seattle and he'd still be holding those teams back toward mediocrity in spite of their significant talent differential over the Jaguars.
The focus of people like rocdee and you is strictly on Henne being the source of all the team issues. That's not the case. He certainly contributes, but there's a lot more behind the losing this team is doing than just the QB. What's so difficult to understand about that?
Quote:Then what are you arguing about? That the Jaguars don't have a top offensive line unit? I'll agree with that.
My point is that bad QBs make the offensive line look much worse than it is while great QBs make their offensive line look much better than it is.
Blaming the offensive line for Henne's terrible performance is misguided, you could put him on the 49ers or Seattle and he'd still be holding those teams back toward mediocrity in spite of their significant talent differential over the Jaguars.
dude, you are killing it
awesome response.
they dont even realize what they're saying
Quote:The focus of people like rocdee and you is strictly on Henne being the source of all the team issues. That's not the case. He certainly contributes, but there's a lot more behind the losing this team is doing than just the QB. What's so difficult to understand about that?
yeesh, now this guy is just pulling stuff out of the air
when you have to lie to make your point, you've already lost
Quote:look at FBT looking for support lol
I'm not even sure what you're referring to here, but I'm sure in that little mind of yours it makes complete sense. I'm more than capable of defending my position, whereas it's pretty clear you need others to handle that for you.