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Quote:I was in the Moe's on SR 13 (San Jose) in Julington Creek @ Racetrack Rd with my two boys.

 

Daddy has guns. plenty of guns. Carries one just about everywhere he goes....

 

Cop walks in, head to toe in Tactical garb.

 

Armor plated vest, check, complete with POLICE tactical patches.

Thigh rig, check. BOTH LEGS NO DOUBT!

Belt with fullsize pistol, and about 6 mags, check.

Handcuffs and ziptie cuffs, check.

Then, the thing that really made me stare in awe was the fact that he thought that the two pistols on his thighs and the one on his hip weren't enough...dude had a holster velcroed to his plate carrier with yet another freakin pistol.

 

Homie looked like he was coming home from Fallujah. It was ridiculous. Scared my kids, thinking there was some serious crap going down. No, bro just needed a Homewrecker...
 

So did you talk to him and ask him what was going on?  Probably not.  You have no idea what he was doing.

 

I'll let you in on a little secret.  It's common practice for most police officers to carry more than one firearm.  It's also common practice to carry other weapons, and that's just a "regular patrol" officer.

 

Here's a hypothetical for you.  What if "serious crap" did start going down all of the sudden?  Would you be glad that "homie" was armed and trained the way that he was, or would you rather have him being "Barney Fife"?
Quote:So did you talk to him and ask him what was going on?  Probably not.  You have no idea what he was doing.

 

I'll let you in on a little secret.  It's common practice for most police officers to carry more than one firearm.  It's also common practice to carry other weapons, and that's just a "regular patrol" officer.

 

Here's a hypothetical for you.  What if "serious crap" did start going down all of the sudden?  Would you be glad that "homie" was armed and trained the way that he was, or would you rather have him being "Barney Fife"?
Last time I checked, the Moe's in Julington creek certainly wasn't somewhere one may need 170 rounds of anything.

 

Sorry, GI Tacticool was out of place and I wasn't the only one to notice. 

 

Let me guess, you're a cop or something and think it's necessary right. I'll let you in on a little secret, most people don't care if an officer is allowed to open carry anywhere he/she goes and carries a backup but, I think a portion of the populace is becoming aware of the increasing militarization of the police and It's going to take a downturn.

 

Careful with that SERPA thigh rig hoss, would hate to see you put one in your leg.
[quote name="jagibelieve" post="258821" timestamp="1408745109"]So did you talk to him and ask him what was going on? Probably not. You have no idea what he was doing.


I'll let you in on a little secret. It's common practice for most police officers to carry more than one firearm. It's also common practice to carry other weapons, and that's just a "regular patrol" officer.


Here's a hypothetical for you. What if "serious crap" did start going down all of the sudden? Would you be glad that "homie" was armed and trained the way that he was, or would you rather have him being "Barney Fife"?[/quote?]


So there's no happy safe medium between Deputy Dufus and Colonial Marine?

Quote:Describe the "full tactical gear".



Really?
Quote:Really?


Yeah, I let that one go on by.
Quote:Rabble rabble rabble!

 
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Wonder when they're gonna start looting boxes of organic vegetables and soy macchiatos???
Quote:Wonder when they're gonna start looting boxes of organic vegetables and soy macchiatos???
 

And pushing their loot away in jogger strollers.
Quote:And pushing their loot away in jogger strollers.


Exactly!!
Quote:Wonder when they're gonna start looting boxes of organic vegetables and soy macchiatos???
Sounds like a riot in Portland
My opinion may sound cut and dry, but it's what I live by..

 

Act like an animal, get shot like an animal.. Can't follow the rules of society? You don't need to be in it..

Quote:My opinion may sound cut and dry, but it's what I live by..

 

Act like an animal, get shot like an animal.. Can't follow the rules of society? You don't need to be in it..
 

Exactly. Thats why I referred to them as savages earlier in the thread. Savage is as savage does. 
Quote:This is actually pretty simple: when cops screw up with deadly force then innocent people die. Period. The cops should always err on the side of caution for that reason. Otherwise the end result is this:

 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95475
 

Always? No, I disagree.

 

If it permits, I absolute agree with you. If it's in the middle of a fight / gun battle / etc., then there isn't time to complete the pyramid on use-of-force. It seems as though people are talking about a bunch of different things at once, so it's difficult to keep up with your exact example.

 

Sometimes, "innocent" people die because they did something that led any reasonable person to fear for their lives. It's easy to Monday-morning quarterback everything they do, and it's difficult to accept that the person without a gun created the mess to begin with. 

 

We forget that the cops can be "innocents" too.

 

Quote:People tend to think of the military as all-obeying robots. If the order ever came down to subjugate their own people, dissent amongst the ranks would quickly abolish it. Ain't gonna happen.
 

I've never talked to a deputy, officer, Marshall, or otherwise that agreed with the confiscation of weapons. Likewise, I've never talked to one that would enforce the laws thrown down from the White House if it ever got that far. In fact, so many talk about purposefully siding against those that do choose to enforce those laws. 

 

People forget that most of those in LE are actively in favor of protecting civilian's rights.

 

 

Quote:I'm not against police being protected, I'm against using them to quell the violence, that's not their role nor responsibility.
 

That is their purpose. What purpose do they serve? Complete accident reports? These are civilians rioting and often committing crimes that we're talking about. The US military doesn't have the same extensive experience in Due Process or the basic laws that protect the US civilians as those officers. The US military doesn't have jurisdiction over them, either.

 

Quote:I've never argued to disarm the police, you seem to believe the police can't respond to extremely rare and in some cases events that have never happened without military grade gear. No one's ever launched random pipe bombs and if you knew anything about pipe bomb's you'd know why.

 

...

 

 

We can come up with all kinds of hypothetical threats to society to justify anything, that's a rabbit hole. All these mass shootings you claim as justification for a militarized police force always have one thing in common, they happen in gun free zones in states with heavy legislation against individuals obtaining CWL's. Once again government being armed isn't going to save you, only individuals taking responsibility and being allowed to defend themselves will end the mass shootings.
 

I'm all for those that carry a weapon on a daily basis. Those are the people I hope come to my aid whenever I'm in a gun battle. 

 

HOWEVER

 

 

Do you expect your average Joe to handle explosives? Just a few months ago, a man walked into a FedEx warehouse located in Cobb County (remember the county you claimed to use a military-styled vehicle) and shot 6 people. As he walked around shooting people, he began placing pipebombs throughout the facility. According to witnesses, the man observed responding officer decked out in their military-garb and went ahead and off'd himself. Do you think he would have done the same had he seen a 6-shooter on those officers instead of an A&R 15 and ballistic helmet / vests?

 

I'm a firm believer that the it's far more likely that you save yourself than any officer. But it's unreasonable to assume that you would ever get a couple dozen licensed gun holders to tactically enter an active shooter scenario (with all their equipment) like those officers did. That happens all the time. 

Quote:Always? No, I disagree.

 

If it permits, I absolute agree with you. If it's in the middle of a fight / gun battle / etc., then there isn't time to complete the pyramid on use-of-force. It seems as though people are talking about a bunch of different things at once, so it's difficult to keep up with your exact example.

 

Sometimes, "innocent" people die because they did something that led any reasonable person to fear for their lives. It's easy to Monday-morning quarterback everything they do, and it's difficult to accept that the person without a gun created the mess to begin with. 

 

We forget that the cops can be "innocents" too.
 

I'm speaking more the proliferation of heavy weapons and tactics that inflame what could otherwise be routine police duties. If Brown was really assaulting this officer in Ferguson then the officer acted righteously in self-defense. In the link I posted two cops no knocked the wrong place and killed an old man that they weren't looking for. That, unfortunately, has been epidemic with that type of warrant for at least the last decade, which means there's something wrong with that system that we aren't addressing. I'm not opposed to the correct equipment for the right job, I'm very concerned that officers are working beyond the scope of law enforcement simply because of the access and routine use of the tools. As I said, in the War on Crime everyone who isn't Law Enforcement ends up looking like an enemy combatant.
Quote:Officer threatned to kill demonstrator suspended.


Story here
http://m.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/20/1...endedolice officer involved with crowd control who threatned protestors with weapon relieved of his duty.
 

Well deserved on that guys part. 
The funeral for the thug is on CNN now.. P. Diddy and Spike Lee are in attendance to help fuel the fire of this three ring circus.. Al Sharpton (the corpse chaser) is getting ready to spew his venom and thousands are going to lap it up.. Pathetic..
Quote:The funeral for the thug is on CNN now.. P. Diddy and Spike Lee are in attendance to help fuel the fire of this three ring circus.. Al Sharpton (the corpse chaser) is getting ready to spew his venom and thousands are going to lap it up.. Pathetic..
 

The race hustling is in full swing for sure, it's disgusting.
Quote:The funeral for the thug is on CNN now.. P. Diddy and Spike Lee are in attendance to help fuel the fire of this three ring circus.. Al Sharpton (the corpse chaser) is getting ready to spew his venom and thousands are going to lap it up.. Pathetic..



Jesus...you'd think MLK jr was killed all over again and not just some criminal...
I was watching a round table and one pundit said that police need to be more sensitive to black culture when approaching AAs on the street. Of course no one bothered to ask what those cultural sensitivities were and how police officers should approach them differently than everyone else.
Quote:I was watching a round table and one pundit said that police need to be more sensitive to black culture when approaching AAs on the street. Of course no one bothered to ask what those cultural sensitivities were and how police officers should approach them differently than everyone else.
 

Now that's absurd, police shouldn't be required to approach people differently based upon race, that's the definition of profiling so many in the black community are upset about.
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