Quote:Every January, poor Byron Leftwich suffers a bout of ptsd that stems from Willie McGinest sacking him 4.5 times (a NFL playoff record, by the by) in that one playoff game where we got dismantled in the first round on national television 28-3.
It's a tough time of the year for Jaguars and their fans alike. We get the ghosts of NFL future, past, and present, all at the same damn horrible time. At least I have my birthday to look forward to, and even that is but another mandatory step towards an unavoidable and sure-to-be uneventful death.
Sigh. Go Waddlers.
You ok buddy? Jeez.
Quote:You ok buddy? Jeez.
You know me. Every once in a while I go a little Omaha's #1 Jag fan on ya. Be worried if I don't lol.
Kouvoris reporting Jags unable to reach common ground with Coughlin and he's out of the running unless something drastically changes.
I'm guessing he was indeed seeking full control as previously reported , which would explain why Caldwell was not apart of the interview yesterday.
Quote:I'm guessing he was indeed seeking full control as previously reported , which would explain why Caldwell was not apart of the interview yesterday.
I like Coughlim but in the NFL no one should have that. Belichek has earned it, but besides him...just no.
Wow, wonder why he's already eliminated from consideration.
If that is true, why can't he just be happy with coaching our team? Does he really have to get full control? Good Lord, Tom...
Quote:Kouvoris reporting Jags unable to reach common ground with Coughlin and he's out of the running unless something drastically changes.
Its a bogus report by Kouvaris and he has nothing to back it up with. Dan Hicken just said the interest is there and that was just the first meeting.
Quote:If that is true, why can't he just be happy with coaching our team? Does he really have to get full control? Good Lord, Tom...
Possibly he feels he lost his job in part due to Jerry Reese.
Quote:Its a bogus report by Kouvaris and he has nothing to back it up with. Dan Hicken just said the interest is there and that was just the first meeting.
This isnt the first time we've heard he may want control to get back into coaching...i know you love Coughlin but I think its more likely than not its the cae. I doubt weve moved on completely though.
Too bad. I get where's he coming from on some level. His fate was in the hands of an average at best GM in New York. He doesn't want to be in that position again and I can't blame him. It's too bad that there was no middle ground that they could find as an acceptable compromise.
I like the chutzpah on his part to force an interview for a job that isn't open though.
This team's history has been dismal in hiring novice Head Coaches, novice General Managers, novice OC, novice DC and now we have a two-time Super Bowl winning coach available who out coached Bill Belichick twice and we aren't locking him up.
You know, Peyton Manning and Andy Reid were once available too, and we passed. Good grief.
Regards...................the Chiefjag
Quote:This team's history has been dismal in hiring novice Head Coaches, novice General Managers, novice OC, novice DC and now we have a two-time Super Bowl winning coach available who out coached Bill Belichick twice and we aren't locking him up.
You know, Peyton Manning and Andy Reid were once available too, and we passed. Good grief.
Regards...................the Chiefjag
Coughlin is a 71 year old that started to really sputter at the end.
Id be down to have him as coach, but good lord if you think we should just give gim the keys to the entire organization. That rarely works. Theres a reason only Belichek has that.
Quote:Coughlin is a 71 year old that started to really sputter at the end.
Id be down to have him as coach, but good lord if you think we should just give gim the keys to the entire organization. That rarely works. Theres a reason only Belichek has that.
I understand you think you know what you're talking about. But you don't. I know you think you do. But you don't. But I understand you think you do.
You agree, Belichick has full control, and he deserves it, but the man who out coached him with a subordinate QB twice, doesn't. SMDH>
Regards..................the Chiefjag
It's true that no coach has ever won a Super Bowl with two different teams. I see nothing to suggest Coughlin could be the one to make history and become the first.
Looking at the most recent Super Bowl winners, including Tom, nearly all were on their first or second NFL HC gig.
Kubiak - second NFL HC job
Belichick - second NFL HC job
Carroll - third NFL HC job
John Harbaugh - first NFL HC job
Coughlin - second NFL HC job
McCarthy - first NFL HC job
Payton - first NFL HC job
Tomlin - first NFL HC job
Dungy - second NFL HC job
Cowher - first NFL HC job
Gruden - second NFL HC job
Billick - first NFL HC job
Vermeil - third NFL HC job
Shanahan - second NFL HC job
If we're going to win anything, anytime soon - it's likely to be a first timer with NFL coaching experience or a NFL coach with his second team.
Quote:I understand you think you know what you're talking about. But you don't. I know you think you do. But you don't. But I understand you think you do.
You agree, Belichick has full control, and he deserves it, but the man who out coached him with a subordinate QB twice, doesn't. SMDH>
Regards..................the Chiefjag
Lol. Ok
Regards...................C-dub93
Quote:I understand you think you know what you're talking about. But you don't. I know you think you do. But you don't. But I understand you think you do.
You agree, Belichick has full control, and he deserves it, but the man who out coached him with a subordinate QB twice, doesn't. SMDH>
Regards..................the Chiefjag
It is arguable if he was out coached, but Coughlin isn't a good personnel man.
Just because a guy beat Belichek doesnt mean he should get the reigns to an organization.
About the nost ludicrous reasoning Ive ever heard.
Quote:Just because a guy beat Belichek doesnt mean he should get the reigns to an organization.
About the nost ludicrous reasoning Ive ever heard.
Yep. It wasn't Tom Coughlin who assembled the roster.
Not to mention that:
In 2007/8 Brady was beat up by San Diego in the previous game, and it still needed David Tyree to make a miracle catch.
In 2011/2 Coughlin squeaked out a 9-7 record. He did parlay three wins in a row in the playoffs, so he's got that going for him.
Quote:This isnt the first time we've heard he may want control to get back into coaching...i know you love Coughlin but I think its more likely than not its the cae. I doubt weve moved on completely though.
Im not buying the reports that he wants full control. Terrible way to leverage yourself into a head coaching position. Dont buy every rumor hook line and sinker. The Bills and Jags are interested in Coughlin, well, The Bills are on the verge of hiring a guy and when that rumor came up about Coughlin wanting full control, they pretty much distanced themselves from him. The Bills are not giving him full control, their GM right now is pretty good. If that rumor is true, then he has played himself out of two head coaching positions and the season hasn't even finished. And I doubt he goes to some team like the Browns, I think The Bills are pretty much ready to compete for the playoffs and its in New York which is very appealing to him, and Jacksonville is his second home where he built his legacy here as our first coach, also very appealing. If that rumor came from Coughlin, that was a pretty stupid move, doesn't make sense and hes not in a position to leverage himself.