I don’t want to see him go but his immaturity has gotten to be such a distraction that maybe it’s best. He suffers from ‘the grass is greener’ syndrome and it’s about to teach him a valuable life lesson.
(09-20-2019, 01:44 AM)JagsFanSince95 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2019, 12:52 AM)Eric1 Wrote: [ -> ]Allen Robinson didn't want to re-sign here because of Coughlin..
Telvin Smith quit playing football and left $10m on the table because of Coughlin..
Ngakoue is being hard balled and will likely walk in FA because of Coughlin..
Ramsey wants out and is going to be traded because of Coughlin..
All drafted by Caldwell, all out after Coughlin joined.....
Coughlin is literally running every talent we have on this team off.. Yet it's looking like he's forcing this team to play his trash 4th overall pick RB Fournette...
That's not even bringing up the QBs he passed on/re-signed/signed...
Get rid of Coughlin right now. He's literally getting rid of any/all talent this team has.
Can someone be this clueless, I mean staggering levels of clueless? Imagine being this paranoid and wrong at the same time.
No. Robinson left because he wanted to play elsewhere, that is it. We offered him an extension and he said no. Maybe keeping Blake had a role... But how is that Tom? AROB left after 2017... The season AR was hurt we went to the AFCCG without him playing and Blake had his best year as a pro(WITH Tom here btw).... AR15 was a non factor, and has been average in Chicago too.. He had 754 yards and 4 tds last year 11 catches for 143 yards and 0 TD so far. You act like AR is some true WR1, dude is a serviceable WR2 at best - post ACL.
No. Smith took off because he is retiring, he will not play football again. I will gleefully eat my crow if he returns. Dude just doesn't have the desire to play anymore. He is dealing with something personally, and I highly doubt it has anything to do with who he is playing for.
No. Jalen wants a trade because he has a maturity problem. He's upset because Tom likely called him on his antics. This is almost certainly why 20 is upset. Tom has dealt with players for decades, because one sensitive sally gets upset at Tom's approach enough to request a trade is too bad. Tom has had success with every team he has been a part of, all the way back to coaching us in the mid 90s and the Giants in the 2000s, back to us in 2017 as VP. Jalen is a generational talent at CB, but seems to be quite the man child/head case. I hope we find a way to keep him.
Coughlin is not perfect, in fact I think some of his picks have been down right awful... But the man knows talent and football. This team is loaded with talent from both DC and TC, they just haven't hit at QB until this season. Bryan looked great tonight, he is coming along. Allen is a beast... Q Williams looks like a stud... Minshew is the truth, and if he develops into a top 12 QB, this team will be fine with or without Ramsey. To deny Tom's level of success in the NFL is asinine, and incredible to see people do over an injury riddled 2018 season and 3 games in to 2019. Some people could run Brady and Belichick out of town with their insanity-level narratives. Some still haven't learned from the 1st time we ran Tom out of town. Will you feel the same way if this team is 7-2 after Houston going into the bye?
Absolute best post on this topic. I get so tired of handwringing bed wetters who root for the villians and hate the good guys.
I'd rather keep Ramsey. It's better for us and better for him (as a man). But if not, I'll be cheering every receiver that plays against him.
If the Jags trade Ramsey, it basically means they've given up on this season. Is that the message you want to send to fans?
Next year, a number of high-priced vets will have to be cut to create salary cap space. The team will not be better next year. The best thing the Jags can do is re-sign their own draft picks. Keep Yannick, Jack, and Jalen together on the defense. Best Jags draft class of all time.
The Jags need to put someone in Canton. Boselli may or may not get in, but Jalen is almost certainly going to make it. Why let that level of talent walk?
(09-20-2019, 06:36 AM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]If the Jags trade Ramsey, it basically means they've given up on this season. Is that the message you want to send to fans?
Next year, a number of high-priced vets will have to be cut to create salary cap space. The team will not be better next year. The best thing the Jags can do is re-sign their own draft picks. Keep Yannick, Jack, and Jalen together on the defense. Best Jags draft class of all time.
The Jags need to put someone in Canton. Boselli may or may not get in, but Jalen is almost certainly going to make it. Why let that level of talent walk?
Because he's being a diva and doesn't want to be a Jaguar. It's like you are begging the girl that you know isn't that into you to stay with you.
I'm pretty sure we can bring in another CB to get targeted and toasted by Mariota 3 times in one game.
I'm not saying Jalen isn't good. I'm not saying Jalen isn't even great, BUT he isn't the lock-down corner the media tries to sell you on. He is an insubordinate who will play a completely different schema than the coach calls for on any particular play.
I will be upset if they give him away or trade him for 1st rounders that will end up being more toward the bottom of the draft, but I still think it is in the best interest of both parties to part ways.
(09-20-2019, 06:36 AM)navyjagfan Wrote: [ -> ]If the Jags trade Ramsey, it basically means they've given up on this season. Is that the message you want to send to fans?
Next year, a number of high-priced vets will have to be cut to create salary cap space. The team will not be better next year. The best thing the Jags can do is re-sign their own draft picks. Keep Yannick, Jack, and Jalen together on the defense. Best Jags draft class of all time.
The Jags need to put someone in Canton. Boselli may or may not get in, but Jalen is almost certainly going to make it. Why let that level of talent walk?
I think you need to take a breath and gain a little perspective. Jalen Ramsey is not the team. The fans AND the team see him for what he is. It’s absurd to believe that if one player walks the season is scuttled. He’s a good player, but he’s not the critical piece.
(09-20-2019, 02:56 AM)Tyler1Reformed Wrote: [ -> ]Well guess I've watched my last jags game if Ramsey is as good as gone. At least they won it!
A quitter and a crybaby just like Jalen lol.
See ya!
(09-20-2019, 02:56 AM)Tyler1Reformed Wrote: [ -> ]Well guess I've watched my last jags game if Ramsey is as good as gone. At least they won it!
Bye,Felicia.
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(09-20-2019, 07:50 AM)StroudCrowd Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying Jalen isn't good. I'm not saying Jalen isn't even great, BUT he isn't the lock-down corner the media tries to sell you on.
Champ bailey, Charles Woodson, rod Woodson Daryl green > jalen. Jalen was getting burned in the 2nd half.
(09-20-2019, 08:48 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2019, 07:50 AM)StroudCrowd Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying Jalen isn't good. I'm not saying Jalen isn't even great, BUT he isn't the lock-down corner the media tries to sell you on.
Champ bailey, Charles Woodson, rod Woodson Daryl green > jalen. Jalen was getting burned in the 2nd half.
Yeah but all 9 sacks were thanks to Ramsey, didn't you know?
If we can get ANYTHING like Hayden Hurst, a 1/3, 2/3 for Jalen: I am FOR IT.
(09-20-2019, 08:52 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2019, 08:48 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]Champ bailey, Charles Woodson, rod Woodson Daryl green > jalen. Jalen was getting burned in the 2nd half.
Yeah but all 9 sacks were thanks to Ramsey, didn't you know?
Nope, the sacks were caused by penetration by Calais and collapsing the pocket.
(09-20-2019, 08:56 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2019, 08:52 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah but all 9 sacks were thanks to Ramsey, didn't you know?
Nope, the sacks were caused by penetration by Calais and collapsing the pocket.
Hey, let’s keep it clean. What Calais does with Mary is his own business.
(09-20-2019, 08:56 AM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ] (09-20-2019, 08:52 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah but all 9 sacks were thanks to Ramsey, didn't you know?
Nope, the sacks were caused by penetration by Calais and collapsing the pocket.
it was sarcasm because people are saying that. Team will be fine without Ramsey.
Khan said he is willing to pay Ramsey. If he can squash [BLEEP] with the front office and be a good teammate without a distraction I would love for him to stay. If he dont want to be a Jag, Peace
Shad needs to make an executive decision for the good of the organisation
(09-20-2019, 09:05 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Khan said he is willing to pay Ramsey. If he can squash [BLEEP] with the front office and be a good teammate without a distraction I would love for him to stay. If he dont want to be a Jag, Peace
He doesn't want to be a Jags as long as Coughlin is here most likely. Tom is the problem here
I think it's time for all of us to admit TC is part (part, not the entire thing) of the problem.
Marrone, TC and Caldwell should all go. Wash too. Keep DeFilippo to give Minshew stability.
(09-20-2019, 09:08 AM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Shad needs to make an executive decision for the good of the organisation
(09-20-2019, 09:05 AM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]Khan said he is willing to pay Ramsey. If he can squash [BLEEP] with the front office and be a good teammate without a distraction I would love for him to stay. If he dont want to be a Jag, Peace
He doesn't want to be a Jags as long as Coughlin is here most likely. Tom is the problem here
He probably got an [BLEEP] chewing from TC from the way he acted in the Hou. If he cant take that when one is deserved then he needs to get thicker skin