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Well if they would have won tonight, they would likely be in a BCS game, and they just played the team with the number one scoring defense and top QB in the nation, so I don't see how that GIF applies.

Quote:FYI the draft is in May next year, not April. That is 7 months away.

 

Make that 0-6 now for the Giants. They lost in Chicago Thursday night.

 

I don't think this is the most exciting part of the season. That title belongs to watching Mark Brunell's POTJ induction at Everbank Field. We are not in tank mode. No coach, player, or front office staff wants to lose games for the top pick of the draft. We play to win the game. I am not a hater, but I certainly cannot be excited about picking Teddy.

That post was made in Spetember, so 8 months is the accurate number and if the draft was in April instead of May then that would make it 6 months away, so i'm not even sure where that came from. Also, nobody honestly gives two hoots about Mark Brunell going into the Pride. The fact that they put him in before Jimmy is absurd and the fact that he's going in at all bothers more than just me.

Quote:Well if they would have won tonight, they would likely be in a BCS game, and they just played the team with the number one scoring defense and top QB in the nation, so I don't see how that GIF applies.

 

Um, no. Rutgers lost to Fresno St. and went to overtime with SMU. Rutgers is an average team on par with teams like Iowa. There is no way Rutgers was getting a BCS bid even with a win today. You realize that only 10 teams get BCS bids right? Do you think a 1 loss (to Fresno St.) Rutgers gets a BCS bowl over an undefeated Michigan? An undefeated Miami? An undefeated Baylor? A 1 loss (to Miami) Florida? An undefeated Texas Tech? etc. etc. etc.

 

If Rutgers happened to win (which wasn't going to happen, because they aren't good), they would have landed somewhere between 20--25 in the rankings. That is still 5-10 spots before being even able to qualify for a BCS bid. Even once in the top 15, no BCS Bowl committee is going to pick a scrub team with a joke of a fan-base (Rutgers) over better teams with better fan bases (that can fill seats / make money).

Quote:Well if they would have won tonight, they would likely be in a BCS game, and they just played the team with the number one scoring defense and top QB in the nation, so I don't see how that GIF applies.

 

Let's pretend Rutgers beats Louisville. What would be your BCS Bowl projections?

 

Rose.

Fiesta.

Sugar.

Orange.

National Championship.

 

Give me your projections, since you assume Rutgers would be in.

Quote:Um, no. Rutgers lost to Fresno St. and went to overtime with SMU. Rutgers is an average team on par with teams like Iowa. There is no way Rutgers was getting a BCS bid even with a win today. You realize that only 10 teams get BCS bids right? Do you think a 1 loss (to Fresno St.) Rutgers gets a BCS bowl over an undefeated Michigan? An undefeated Miami? An undefeated Baylor? A 1 loss (to Miami) Florida? An undefeated Texas Tech? etc. etc. etc.

 

If Rutgers happened to win (which wasn't going to happen, because they aren't good), they would have landed somewhere between 20--25 in the rankings. That is still 5-10 spots before being even able to qualify for a BCS bid. Even once in the top 15, no BCS Bowl committee is going to pick a scrub team with a joke of a fan-base (Rutgers) over better teams with better fan bases (that can fill seats / make money).

As i've already stated, the AAC champ is an automatic BCS qualifier and if they get past Louisville, they would likely win the conference (an argument can also be made for UCF).

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-d...erall-form

His performance isn't being graded nearly as harshly within the national media as it is on this board.

Quote:Um, no. Rutgers lost to Fresno St. and went to overtime with SMU. Rutgers is an average team on par with teams like Iowa. There is no way Rutgers was getting a BCS bid even with a win today. You realize that only 10 teams get BCS bids right? Do you think a 1 loss (to Fresno St.) Rutgers gets a BCS bowl over an undefeated Michigan? An undefeated Miami? An undefeated Baylor? A 1 loss (to Miami) Florida? An undefeated Texas Tech? etc. etc. etc.

 

If Rutgers happened to win (which wasn't going to happen, because they aren't good), they would have landed somewhere between 20--25 in the rankings. That is still 5-10 spots before being even able to qualify for a BCS bid. Even once in the top 15, no BCS Bowl committee is going to pick a scrub team with a joke of a fan-base (Rutgers) over better teams with better fan bases (that can fill seats / make money).

 

You do realize that the AAC winner automatically makes a BCS bowl, right?

Quote: There is no way Rutgers was getting a BCS bid even with a win today.

Really?

One game.  Take a deep breath people for and against Teddy B.  One game...

I wasn't aware the AAC has an auto-bid. Thanks for the heads up. Regardless, the point is that Rutgers is not an good team.

Quote:Really?

 

Was it a bad game? I didn't watch as my eyes were glued to the Tigers/Athletics game.

I recorded the Game last night and watched it this morning.   I was extremely impressed with what I saw from Bridgewater last year against Florida in the Bowl game, and this was the first chance that I had to watch him this season.  My first goal watching the game was to separate the name from the player.  By that I mean that i wanted to actually watch how the kid played and not be swayed by the agenda of the announcers (trust me, they all have them good or bad). 

 

The biggest plus that I see for Teddy is that he is running a truly Pro-Style system.  By that I don't mean formations, the NFL at this point has been flooded with any and all alignments.  When i say pro-style I am referring specifically to the fact that Teddy comes to the line with responsibilities of identifying the Middle linebacker to set the protection schemes as well as having the ability to change plays and adjust routes to get the team in the right play.  That's a lot different than the teams where you see the whole offense look over to the sideline for a call and the QB has little or no say.  I think that on a lot of early third downs he was getting his team into pick and crossing routes against the man blitzing concepts of rutgers and that was a feather in his cap.

 

Overall he looks like a First round QB prospect.  He shows the arm-strength and accuracy on short and intermediate routes that you would expect from a First round QB prospect.  He didn't make any horrible decisions with the ball.  That's another key.  As a Florida fan who still has high hopes for Jeff Driskle i know the feeling when a QB is constantly trying to throw into tripple coverage.  That's not a problem with Teddy that i could detect. 

 

The not so good has to do with his accuracy to the deep third of the field.  That's what seperates First round QB's from flush my whole season down the drain just give me that guy #1 overall QB's.  In Teddy's case there is a structural element of having less than desirable Hand Size that can affect Grip on the ball and how it comes out of his hands, not just misses or timing.  On Far too many passes down the field the ball seems to flutter.  Manning doesn't have a perfect spiral all the time but on more than one occasion there were a couple wounded ducks, one really bad at about 12:35 to go in the third quarter that should have been intercepted.

 

Was it the gloves?  Was it the elements?  Maybe.  That's why i'm curious to see more games of his this coming year, but last night while you could tell that he is a polished First round prospect at the position you also have to acknowledge that there were 4-7 throws that were affected by his grip or lack there of that will most likely be turnovers at the next level. 

Quote:I recorded the Game last night and watched it this morning.   I was extremely impressed with what I saw from Bridgewater last year against Florida in the Bowl game, and this was the first chance that I had to watch him this season.  My first goal watching the game was to separate the name from the player.  By that I mean that i wanted to actually watch how the kid played and not be swayed by the agenda of the announcers (trust me, they all have them good or bad). 

 

The biggest plus that I see for Teddy is that he is running a truly Pro-Style system.  By that I don't mean formations, the NFL at this point has been flooded with any and all alignments.  When i say pro-style I am referring specifically to the fact that Teddy comes to the line with responsibilities of identifying the Middle linebacker to set the protection schemes as well as having the ability to change plays and adjust routes to get the team in the right play.  That's a lot different than the teams where you see the whole offense look over to the sideline for a call and the QB has little or no say.  I think that on a lot of early third downs he was getting his team into pick and crossing routes against the man blitzing concepts of rutgers and that was a feather in his cap.

 

Overall he looks like a First round QB prospect.  He shows the arm-strength and accuracy on short and intermediate routes that you would expect from a First round QB prospect.  He didn't make any horrible decisions with the ball.  That's another key.  As a Florida fan who still has high hopes for Jeff Driskle i know the feeling when a QB is constantly trying to throw into tripple coverage.  That's not a problem with Teddy that i could detect. 

 

The not so good has to do with his accuracy to the deep third of the field.  That's what seperates First round QB's from flush my whole season down the drain just give me that guy #1 overall QB's.  In Teddy's case there is a structural element of having less than desirable Hand Size that can affect Grip on the ball and how it comes out of his hands, not just misses or timing.  On Far too many passes down the field the ball seems to flutter.  Manning doesn't have a perfect spiral all the time but on more than one occasion there were a couple wounded ducks, one really bad at about 12:35 to go in the third quarter that should have been intercepted.

 

Was it the gloves?  Was it the elements?  Maybe.  That's why i'm curious to see more games of his this coming year, but last night while you could tell that he is a polished First round prospect at the position you also have to acknowledge that there were 4-7 throws that were affected by his grip or lack there of that will most likely be turnovers at the next level. 

 

 

Interesting take because a few days ago someone asked about why he wore gloves, and I opined "small hands"? as a hypothesis....maybe its true. 

He says the reason why he wears a gove is because he likes knowing that no matter what the humidity/weather is like he will have the same grip on the ball. Mariota could have used some in that rain game he played in.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-...yahoo.html

Quote:He says the reason why he wears a gove is because he likes knowing that no matter what the humidity/weather is like he will have the same grip on the ball. Mariota could have used some in that rain game he played in.

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nbc-yahoo-...yahoo.html

 

 

I'm more shocked about how Shaun King looks now than I am at what he said.  lol

Shaun King is pretty crazy either way.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTKLlffTaQk

 

That is the draftbreakdown footage of last nights game. Even with the overthrown/int and interception he still looked good. I don't think people realize he is rarely ever going to have RG3/Petty/Geno/Manziel like numbers in a college game due to the type of offense the Cardinals play.

Quote:Shaun King is pretty crazy either way.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTKLlffTaQk

 

That is the draftbreakdown footage of last nights game. Even with the overthrown/int and interception he still looked good. I don't think people realize he is rarely ever going to have RG3/Petty/Geno/Manziel like numbers in a college game due to the type of offense the Cardinals play.

 

Numbers dont mean much to me when I see his passes I see a good QB.  He throws the ball where it needs to be to not only be caught by his WR but also where it needs to be for the WR to get YAC.

Watched it again and honestly I think he looked great for the most part. I feel like something was off with him though just because he was lofting some balls or just having it come out of his hand wobbly. That INT just sort of floated and changed angles in the air. He doesn't usually throw those back corner end zone passes like that.

 

And no it wasn't the glove or the elements. last years Rutgers game was cold as balls. Sometimes a QB just doesn't have that great of a feel for the ball.

Quote:Watched it again and honestly I think he looked great for the most part. I feel like something was off with him though just because he was lofting some balls or just having it come out of his hand wobbly. That INT just sort of floated and changed angles in the air. He doesn't usually throw those back corner end zone passes like that.

 

And no it wasn't the glove or the elements. last years Rutgers game was cold as balls. Sometimes a QB just doesn't have that great of a feel for the ball.

 

I'm agreeing with you.  The kid has all the tools.

I feel like some people are putting unrealistic expectations on Teddy Bridgewater.  He's not going to put up Ohio-like numbers every week, especially in Strong's "run-first" offense.

 

He was off on a couple of passes, but that is to be expected.  He's not perfect, nor is any QB.  I recall Andrew Luck actually threw a couple of pick 6's during his final season at Stanford.  Mistakes are going to happen.

 

Teddy has tremendous potential at the next level and I'm sure Caldwell came away from this game impressed.