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Quote:Still, seems like you are so up to date with anything Teddy related, not missing even a tweet from media pundits.


Should Teddy be on stalking alert if he were drafted here?

 

 

Do you understand how Twitter works?

Sadly, I don't tweet.

Quote:McCarron is garbage, he plays around absolute studs. FSU wouldn't stand a chance against Bama if they had Bridgewater

You have just proved yourself as a true idiot sir! Yes im a lifelong Bama fan and maybe im bias, however I never was spouting about JPW, Mcelroy, Barker, Croyle, and so on.

Quote:You don't pick him up in the 2nd or hell even the 3, especially a read option guy. If he is available in the 5th or maybe (pending on the talent on the board) the 4th you chance on him. Mobility is bottom on my list in terms of what I am looking for in a potential franchise qb.

 

1. Pro style system

2. Intelligent progressions reader

3. Accuracy (includes ball placement and velocity control)

4. Poise under duress

5. Arm strength

6. In pocket mobility

7. Out of pocket mobility

8. Athleticism 

Top 6 of your choices fit AJ Mccarron to a tee!

McCarron is third round at best.

Quote:Top 6 of your choices fit AJ Mccarron to a tee!

McCarron isn't even the third best QB in this draft. Get on your way homer.

Quote:Sadly, I don't tweet.

 

I follow a bunch of other Jaguars fans on twitter. When they tweet things (such as Lord Theodore picutres) it shows up on my twitter feed.

Here's to Teddy being drafted by the Bucs!! Lets go Mariota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote:Here's to Teddy being drafted by the Bucs!! Lets go Mariota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Incredible.

Quote:Here's to Teddy being drafted by the Bucs!! Lets go Mariota!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The bucs would dominant the NFC South. Bridgewater, Martin,  V Jacks, Mike Williams with that defense. They would make the playoffs next year.

Quote:The bucs would dominant the NFC South. Bridgewater, Martin,  V Jacks, Mike Williams with that defense. They would make the playoffs next year.

 

 

Riiiiiiiiiight.

Quote:Riiiiiiiiiight.

Once again, you reply with one worded blank slated posts, because you have nothing intelligent to say.

 

It's safe to assume you're a 14 year old kid up past your bedtime who watches ESPN's first take and takes it literally. At least that's how you come off as.

Quote:Once again, you reply with one worded blank slated posts, because you have nothing intelligent to say.


It's safe to assume you're a 14 year old kid up past your bedtime who watches ESPN's first take and takes it literally. At least that's how you come off as.

You gotta ignore it dude. It will go away I promise

Quote:You gotta ignore it dude. It will go away I promise

It's hard to take in all the stupid, all.. the.. time..

ThunderCat, mind answering my question on what football qualities that Mariota possesses that makes him a better prospect than TB?

Quote:ThunderCat, mind answering my question on what football qualities that Mariota possesses that makes him a better prospect than TB?

 

Careful now.  This requires a factual basis to his opinion which would mean he actually understands what he's looking at.  We all know there is none.

Quote:Careful now.  This requires a factual basis to his opinion which would mean he actually understands what he's looking at.  We all know there is none.

 

LOL.

 

When in doubt...pick the guy who can scramble. 

I've kind of been replying on 3 or 4 different threads so I'll answer your question. As for the idiot parrots Wiseman and Tommy boy I'm not 14 nor do I ever form my opinions from espn. I have been a fan of the Jaguars since the 99 AFC championship game. As a Jag fan all I know is mediocrity. How many people fall in love with the losing team of a heartbreaking playoff loss? The QB's I've been screaming, shouting and hoping for success include the following. Mark Brunell (Post knee injury), Byron Leftwich, David Garrard, and Blaine Gabbert. That's pretty sad when the best QB I have seen perform for the Jaguars was David Garrard. 


 


 

 Here's the thing with Bridgewater. For some reason I'm not believing the hype. I think that he gets a too much credit for beating up a Florida team (his one signature win) that is offensively inept and could not counter offensively thus causing the defense to carry the team. Louisville and yes Bridgewater had some nice scripted drives and punched Florida in the mouth early and there was no answer. When the Gators finally started to adjust and apply pressure, Bridgewater became very inaccurate. Again this is simply from watching. I do not have a bias on either team. Another thing I think that there is some unwarranted mystique because Bostic laid out Bridgewater in that game so it is now a go to highlight when showing he is pocket aware or keeps his eyes down field. While I personally agree with some of those points or facts, I do not think he is fearless and I believe he does feel the pressure. I'm basing that overall sentiment to all the tape and games I have watched of Bridgewater/Louisville. I'm not saying he wont be a good QB in the NFL. I know I rile up the people here a little and have called Bridgewater a bust but that's more for effect. I think Bridgewater will have some success in the NFL. I'm not so sure that it will be an elite level though. I simply do not think that he is the QB for this Jaguar team. If his surrounding offense was more complete then I would say oh heck yes get him because he does display a lot of "prototypical style" traits. But the fact is that this team is almost completely void of surrounding talent. 

 

 The Mariota argument: There are many reasons why I would rather have Mariota over Bridgewater. I believe his overall potential is higher. His instinct, athleticism and speed are traits that cannot be taught. They're simply apart of him. He is Taylor made for the Jaguars in several ways. 1.He avoids the rush 2. He is a dual threat. 3. His arm strength. 4. He protects the football. 5. He makes quick reads. The Jaguars need play makers and Mariota immediately gives them that ability. Many people don't like the fact that he's a spread offense QB. But in the NFL there is room for this style. Especially when the WR's perfectly suit him initially. Between Shorts, Blackmon and Brown those are all wide outs that can get YAC just the way it suits him at Oregon. People don't give Mariota credit for making multiple reads. Yet this is false. He has grown immensely and every game is showing that yes he indeed makes reads but is also called upon to take control and make plays with his mobility. Mariota has a nice tight quick release and keeps his shoulders square when throwing on the run. He display's the potential to be a mobile threat but also scan the field and place the ball on target where only his receiver can catch it. Finally, I believe that he would rejuvenate the fans that just need to be excited about watching something worth watching sooner than later. It is a matter of time and the time is now to get an exciting QB in Jacksonville. Mariota is a QB that would spearhead the quick rebuild of the Jaguars offense into a greatest show on grass level. 

 

 

 Those are my honest opinions. Take or leave it. I don't care if you don't like it. 

Quote:I've kind of been replying on 3 or 4 different threads so I'll answer your question. As for the idiot parrots Wiseman and Tommy boy I'm not 14 nor do I ever form my opinions from espn. I have been a fan of the Jaguars since the 99 AFC championship game. As a Jag fan all I know is mediocrity. How many people fall in love with the losing team of a heartbreaking playoff loss? The QB's I've been screaming, shouting and hoping for success include the following. Mark Brunell (Post knee injury), Byron Leftwich, David Garrard, and Blaine Gabbert. That's pretty sad when the best QB I have seen perform for the Jaguars was David Garrard. 

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 Here's the thing with Bridgewater. For some reason I'm not believing the hype. I think that he gets a too much credit for beating up a Florida team (his one signature win) that is offensively inept and could not counter offensively thus causing the defense to carry the team. Louisville and yes Bridgewater had some nice scripted drives and punched Florida in the mouth early and there was no answer. When the Gators finally started to adjust and apply pressure, Bridgewater became very inaccurate. Again this is simply from watching. I do not have a bias on either team. Another thing I think that there is some unwarranted mystique because Bostic laid out Bridgewater in that game so it is now a go to highlight when showing he is pocket aware or keeps his eyes down field. While I personally agree with some of those points or facts, I do not think he is fearless and I believe he does feel the pressure. I'm basing that overall sentiment to all the tape and games I have watched of Bridgewater/Louisville. I'm not saying he wont be a good QB in the NFL. I know I rile up the people here a little and have called Bridgewater a bust but that's more for effect. I think Bridgewater will have some success in the NFL. I'm not so sure that it will be an elite level though. I simply do not think that he is the QB for this Jaguar team. If his surrounding offense was more complete then I would say oh heck yes get him because he does display a lot of "prototypical style" traits. But the fact is that this team is almost completely void of surrounding talent. 

 

 The Mariota argument: There are many reasons why I would rather have Mariota over Bridgewater. I believe his overall potential is higher. His instinct, athleticism and speed are traits that cannot be taught. They're simply apart of him. He is Taylor made for the Jaguars in several ways. 1.He avoids the rush 2. He is a dual threat. 3. His arm strength. 4. He protects the football. 5. He makes quick reads. The Jaguars need play makers and Mariota immediately gives them that ability. Many people don't like the fact that he's a spread offense QB. But in the NFL there is room for this style. Especially when the WR's perfectly suit him initially. Between Shorts, Blackmon and Brown those are all wide outs that can get YAC just the way it suits him at Oregon. People don't give Mariota credit for making multiple reads. Yet this is false. He has grown immensely and every game is showing that yes he indeed makes reads but is also called upon to take control and make plays with his mobility. Mariota has a nice tight quick release and keeps his shoulders square when throwing on the run. He display's the potential to be a mobile threat but also scan the field and place the ball on target where only his receiver can catch it. Finally, I believe that he would rejuvenate the fans that just need to be excited about watching something worth watching sooner than later. It is a matter of time and the time is now to get an exciting QB in Jacksonville. Mariota is a QB that would spearhead the quick rebuild of the Jaguars offense into a greatest show on grass level. 

 

 

 Those are my honest opinions. Take or leave it. I don't care if you don't like it. 

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Solid post, your wrong on most accounts but solid post. 

 

First Bridgewater is exceptional at feeling heat and using his athleticism to move around in the pocket. He has rarely played a game with a entirely clean pocket, often times he has to toll out, move up in the pocket, adjust side to side, he does all those well as he keeps his eyes downfield.

 

You obviously went blind when noticing how many times Bridgewater throws with a defender straight in his face. It happened several times during the rutgers, ucf, kentucky and usf games. 

 

He doesn't play with a great team and he has the knack of throwing his receivers open

 

if you aren't seeing this, you are watching Bridgewaters tape from high school then.

 

Everything Mariota does, Bridgewater does much better on a pro level.

 

Athleticism is overrated as proof of RG3's regression and Kaepnericks underwhelming 013 performance. Brady, Manning and Rodgers are in the bottom half in the league in terms of qb  athleticism yet they are the top three qbs overall. 

 

Everything that you have said Mariota can do, avoids rush, dual threat, arm strength, protects football (teddy always makes the right decision, hence high completion rate in pro style offense), Bridgewater does much better

 

Bridgewater makes 4-5 reads in a given pass play, looks off safeties, places the ball where it needs to be. 

 

Mariota needs to watch from the bench and grasp the offense. The NFL has said qbs can be hit like a running back on option plays and defenses have played contain, forcing guys like Kaep and RG3 to beat them from the pocket while taking away their first read.

 

Great post overall, wrong on most accounts though.

Quote:I've kind of been replying on 3 or 4 different threads so I'll answer your question. As for the idiot parrots Wiseman and Tommy boy I'm not 14 nor do I ever form my opinions from espn. I have been a fan of the Jaguars since the 99 AFC championship game. As a Jag fan all I know is mediocrity. How many people fall in love with the losing team of a heartbreaking playoff loss? The QB's I've been screaming, shouting and hoping for success include the following. Mark Brunell (Post knee injury), Byron Leftwich, David Garrard, and Blaine Gabbert. That's pretty sad when the best QB I have seen perform for the Jaguars was David Garrard.




Here's the thing with Bridgewater. For some reason I'm not believing the hype. I think that he gets a too much credit for beating up a Florida team (his one signature win) that is offensively inept and could not counter offensively thus causing the defense to carry the team. Louisville and yes Bridgewater had some nice scripted drives and punched Florida in the mouth early and there was no answer. When the Gators finally started to adjust and apply pressure, Bridgewater became very inaccurate. Again this is simply from watching. I do not have a bias on either team. Another thing I think that there is some unwarranted mystique because Bostic laid out Bridgewater in that game so it is now a go to highlight when showing he is pocket aware or keeps his eyes down field. While I personally agree with some of those points or facts, I do not think he is fearless and I believe he does feel the pressure. I'm basing that overall sentiment to all the tape and games I have watched of Bridgewater/Louisville. I'm not saying he wont be a good QB in the NFL. I know I rile up the people here a little and have called Bridgewater a bust but that's more for effect. I think Bridgewater will have some success in the NFL. I'm not so sure that it will be an elite level though. I simply do not think that he is the QB for this Jaguar team. If his surrounding offense was more complete then I would say oh heck yes get him because he does display a lot of "prototypical style" traits. But the fact is that this team is almost completely void of surrounding talent.


The Mariota argument: There are many reasons why I would rather have Mariota over Bridgewater. I believe his overall potential is higher. His instinct, athleticism and speed are traits that cannot be taught. They're simply apart of him. He is Taylor made for the Jaguars in several ways. 1.He avoids the rush 2. He is a dual threat. 3. His arm strength. 4. He protects the football. 5. He makes quick reads. The Jaguars need play makers and Mariota immediately gives them that ability. Many people don't like the fact that he's a spread offense QB. But in the NFL there is room for this style. Especially when the WR's perfectly suit him initially. Between Shorts, Blackmon and Brown those are all wide outs that can get YAC just the way it suits him at Oregon. People don't give Mariota credit for making multiple reads. Yet this is false. He has grown immensely and every game is showing that yes he indeed makes reads but is also called upon to take control and make plays with his mobility. Mariota has a nice tight quick release and keeps his shoulders square when throwing on the run. He display's the potential to be a mobile threat but also scan the field and place the ball on target where only his receiver can catch it. Finally, I believe that he would rejuvenate the fans that just need to be excited about watching something worth watching sooner than later. It is a matter of time and the time is now to get an exciting QB in Jacksonville. Mariota is a QB that would spearhead the quick rebuild of the Jaguars offense into a greatest show on grass level.



Those are my honest opinions. Take or leave it. I don't care if you don't like it.

You'll be flamed by the #TeddyOrDie fans but nice, well thought out post. I applaud you for thinking outside the box.