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Quote:You are complete moron, when you draft for the NFL especially when your a #1 or #2 pick and you need a qb, you draft to bring in the best qb who not only has a high ceiling (which Bridgewater does) BUT has the capability of winning games now (which by all measurements Bridgewater can do). 
 

I'm not a complete moron. Only somewhat sometimes. But Your not being fair because both QB's have potential to win games early. You don't know anything till they play the games at the next level. Why is every Mariota detractor/bridgewater fanboy so biased? How can you say definitive that one will be able to win while other won't. That's being stubborn and ignorant. Yet you guys want to bash me for liking what Mariota brings to the table. Its a double standard with you. 
Bridgewater is perfect
Quote:When are going to stop comparing TB to known Elite, established QB's in the NFL? So far TB has been compared to Luck, Aaron Rogers, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. I'm not picking on anyone in particular so don't go postal on me. It's just a little annoying when someone wants to take a few comparisons of great QB's and say that TB has those same abilities. And then we got this genius named Wiseman101 that says, "I never draft on potential", First of all you don't draft anything but cheap beer and secondly isn't his potential what everyone is banking on? 
 

 

Are you asking us or every draft expert out there who is doing the same thing?

 

It's part of the game of projecting someone in the NFL.
Quote:I'm not a complete moron. Only somewhat sometimes. But Your not being fair because both QB's have potential to win games early. You don't know anything till they play the games at the next level. Why is every Mariota detractor/bridgewater fanboy so biased? How can you say definitive that one will be able to win while other won't. That's being stubborn and ignorant. Yet you guys want to bash me for liking what Mariota brings to the table. Its a double standard with you. 
 

Ok, I did a little chart of a game for each of them.  Here's what I found.  Teddy's game was against USF.  Mariota's game was against Washington State.

 

Teddy:  Of his designed passing plays 20 were from shotgun.  15 were from under center.  When he threw the ball, he was able to set his feet and his throwing frame 20 times.  He threw from a non-set base (like a rollout or on the run) 7 times.  I'm not counting screen plays.  

 

Mariota:  Of his designed passing plays, every single one of them was from the shotgun.  He did not take a single snap from under center when it was a passing play.  He set his feet and threw from a solid throwing base 11 times.  He threw from a non-set throwing base (either by designed rollout or from running) 15 times.  Again, I'm not counting screen plays.

 

Looking at this without bias towards either of them, this shows one reason why Teddy has a leg up on Mariota.  Teddy is used to being under center.  He's not there as much as I would like, but he's there almost half the time.  I'm going to look at a couple more of Mariota's games, but it looks like he has almost no experience throwing a pass from under center in Oregon's offense.  The other thing that stands out is the fact that Teddy is able to set his feet and throw from a good base WAY more than Mariota.  He adjusts in the pocket and resets his feet extremely fast.  Most of the time when Mariota has to leave his base stance, he runs and ends up throwing on the run.  The other thing I noticed is that when they both broke away from their stance and threw on the run, Teddy is much more accurate than Mariota.  Mariota has a tendancy to underthrow a lot of his passes when he's on the move.  

 

The only negative that I found with Teddy, that I mentioned earlier, was that if there's pressure in his face immediately, he tends to go backwards.  This happened 3 times against USF where he was sacked for a 10+ yard loss.  When this happens, it's because he's trying to get away from the pressure.  He just needs to change the direction or suck it up and take the sack without giving up more yards.

 

One other BIG thing that I noticed about Mariota was that when he breaks his stance and runs, he almost always lets his ball-hand drop to or below his waist.  Seriously, it's like when he rolls out, he's expecting to run so he gets ready to tuck the ball.  This costs him in the Washington game because the ball got swatted from him twice resulting in turnovers.

 

This was simply me looking at how their offenses are run and how they react to the game from a throwing standpoint.  But I do think it shows something when a player is able to set his feet and throw from a solid base almost 75% of the time, and the other player is only able to do it 42% of the time.

 

So this is one of the other reasons why I would take Teddy over Mariota.
Quote:Ok, I did a little chart of a game for each of them.  Here's what I found.  Teddy's game was against USF.  Mariota's game was against Washington State.

 

Teddy:  Of his designed passing plays 20 were from shotgun.  15 were from under center.  When he threw the ball, he was able to set his feet and his throwing frame 20 times.  He threw from a non-set base (like a rollout or on the run) 7 times.  I'm not counting screen plays.  

 

Mariota:  Of his designed passing plays, every single one of them was from the shotgun.  He did not take a single snap from under center when it was a passing play.  He set his feet and threw from a solid throwing base 11 times.  He threw from a non-set throwing base (either by designed rollout or from running) 15 times.  Again, I'm not counting screen plays.

 

Looking at this without bias towards either of them, this shows one reason why Teddy has a leg up on Mariota.  Teddy is used to being under center.  He's not there as much as I would like, but he's there almost half the time.  I'm going to look at a couple more of Mariota's games, but it looks like he has almost no experience throwing a pass from under center in Oregon's offense.  The other thing that stands out is the fact that Teddy is able to set his feet and throw from a good base WAY more than Mariota.  He adjusts in the pocket and resets his feet extremely fast.  Most of the time when Mariota has to leave his base stance, he runs and ends up throwing on the run.  The other thing I noticed is that when they both broke away from their stance and threw on the run, Teddy is much more accurate than Mariota.  Mariota has a tendancy to underthrow a lot of his passes when he's on the move.  

 

The only negative that I found with Teddy, that I mentioned earlier, was that if there's pressure in his face immediately, he tends to go backwards.  This happened 3 times against USF where he was sacked for a 10+ yard loss.  When this happens, it's because he's trying to get away from the pressure.  He just needs to change the direction or suck it up and take the sack without giving up more yards.

 

One other BIG thing that I noticed about Mariota was that when he breaks his stance and runs, he almost always lets his ball-hand drop to or below his waist.  Seriously, it's like when he rolls out, he's expecting to run so he gets ready to tuck the ball.  This costs him in the Washington game because the ball got swatted from him twice resulting in turnovers.

 

This was simply me looking at how their offenses are run and how they react to the game from a throwing standpoint.  But I do think it shows something when a player is able to set his feet and throw from a solid base almost 75% of the time, and the other player is only able to do it 42% of the time.

 

So this is one of the other reasons why I would take Teddy over Mariota.
 

You should really find a different game for Teddy.

 

He was playing out of shotgun more than usual in the USF game because he was getting rocked a lot early especially by DeeDee Lattimore.
Quote:You should really find a different game for Teddy.

 

He was playing out of shotgun more than usual in the USF game because he was getting rocked a lot early especially by DeeDee Lattimore.
 

Oh I know.  I specifically wanted a game where I knew Teddy got rocked a couple of times.  And he still performed.  Imagine Teddy with a decent Oline...
https://twitter.com/J_Cyprien/status/397820587105849344

 

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@<b>edjag91</b>: @<b>J_Cyprien</b> Bridgewater or Mariota #<b>askCyp</b>” Teddy
 

Cyp like the rest of the planet loves them some Teddy. Didn't he pick him off in last years FIU game also? Or was it just Evans in the Florida game?

Cyp picked him off.
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Cyp like the rest of the planet loves them some Teddy. Didn't he pick him off in last years FIU game also? Or was it just Evans in the Florida game?


I saw that on twitter also it got me hyped! Even the players know it's coming!
Even the players know whats going on 

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Cyp like the rest of the planet loves them some Teddy. Didn't he pick him off in last years FIU game also? Or was it just Evans in the Florida game?


I wish someone would have asked him Gabbert or Henne Lol
Quote:I wish someone would have asked him Gabbert or Henne Lol
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Quote:Cyp picked him off.
 

Probably the only negative I could ever find on Bridgewater, because its obvious that Cyp's coverage skills aren't too good at the pro level, #dariusclone
Quote:Probably the only negative I could ever find on Bridgewater, because its obvious that Cyp's coverage skills aren't too good at the pro level, #dariusclone
 

Apparently they were good in college because he was a universal 1-2nd round pick.
We should probably hold off on judging Cyp for another year at least.  We'll see how he does once he gets adjusted to the NFL.

Quote:Probably the only negative I could ever find on Bridgewater, because its obvious that Cyp's coverage skills aren't too good at the pro level, #dariusclone

Funny you say it's a negative on teddy and not a huge plus on Cyp. He showed tremendous range on that play. Greg Cosell thought Cyp had enough range to be a safety and I trust him over any message board person.
Quote:Funny you say it's a negative on teddy and not a huge plus on Cyp. He showed tremendous range ok that play. Greg Cosell thought Cyp had enough range to be a safety and I trust him over any message board person.


Well you know you're talking to the king of snap judgements and knee jerk reactions.
Quote:Well you know you're talking to the king of snap judgements and knee jerk reactions.
 

TMD is not what I would call a...football mind.
Quote:Probably the only negative I could ever find on Bridgewater, because its obvious that Cyp's coverage skills aren't too good at the pro level, #dariusclone
 

Its obvious you always have no clue what youre talking about #stopposting

http://heismanpundit.com/2013/11/05/what...een-up-to/

 

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For instance, Louisville’s Teddy Bridgewater isn’t going to win the Heisman, but it’s worth noting that he’s having a pretty remarkable season in his own right.

Was it his fault that his team blew a 28-7 lead against UCF?  Or that his schedule isn’t the most captivating to viewers?

Nope. Here’s what he’s done so far:

 

·         thrown for 2,557 yards on 243 passing attempts

·          23 TD/2 int – first game of the season and sixth game

·         Tossed a TD pass in 20-straight games – 5 TD vs. Ohio

·         6 300-yard passing games

·         73.7 completion pct. – national leader

·         Third in the nation in passing efficiency

·         65-of-85 when throwing under pressure – 76.4 percent

·         24-of-35 in 4<sup>th</sup> quarter passing – 68.5 percent

·         31-of-43 in the red zone – 72.1 percent

 

It’s no wonder he’ll probably be the first quarterback selected in the next NFL draft.
 

 

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