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As much as I think and I know the NFL is fixed after reading Brian Tuochy's books.......the 3rd and 18 give up cost the Jags the game.

Anybody who actually believes the NFL and their refs are biased TOWARDS New England and want them to succeed year in-year out as they do, has totally missed the reason why Goodell went after Brady for (allegedly) deflating the footballs!  No, they are all about parity, and having NE represent the AFC every year is about THE LAST THING they want to see!   Wake up....smell the coffee.

(01-21-2018, 11:12 PM)Phil Swift Wrote: [ -> ]Anybody who actually believes the NFL and their refs are biased TOWARDS New England and want them to succeed year in-year out as they do, has totally missed the reason why Goodell went after Brady for (allegedly) deflating the footballs!  No, they are all about parity, and having NE represent the AFC every year is about THE LAST THING they want to see!   Wake up....smell the coffee.

Give it a rest. The NFL isn’t out to get the patriots. 

(01-21-2018, 11:02 PM)jaglyn Wrote: [ -> ]Jags can’t complain about the refs. The rest of the NFL fans who aren’t New England fans will do that for us. They are have been the victims of this crap longer than we have, they have a bigger grudge regarding Patriots officiating than we have

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(01-21-2018, 11:12 PM)Phil Swift Wrote: [ -> ]Anybody who actually believes the NFL and their refs are biased TOWARDS New England and want them to succeed year in-year out as they do, has totally missed the reason why Goodell went after Brady for (allegedly) deflating the footballs!  No, they are all about parity, and having NE represent the AFC every year is about THE LAST THING they want to see!   Wake up....smell the coffee.

You believe that storyline? What a sheep.

The Patriots drive TV ratings (literally the ONLY thing the NFL cares about). The year's the Pats are NOT in the Super Bowl, those Super Bowl ratings are down 4%. That's over $60 mi in revenue. 

Go read Brian Tuochy's "The Fix is In" all based on facts from OLDER players and then come talk.

Goodell punished Brady for Deflate gate so he can keep up appearances. If the NFL was out to get the Patriots the Jaguars would be in the Super Bowl, and Belichick would be banned from the league.

(01-21-2018, 11:12 PM)Phil Swift Wrote: [ -> ]Anybody who actually believes the NFL and their refs are biased TOWARDS New England and want them to succeed year in-year out as they do, has totally missed the reason why Goodell went after Brady for (allegedly) deflating the footballs!  No, they are all about parity, and having NE represent the AFC every year is about THE LAST THING they want to see!   Wake up....smell the coffee.

Lol, clueless

Dudes. I'M NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORIST AT ALL. I called before this game that if the Pats won they would get obvious help from the refs. Hell I called it after the Jags offensive drive before halftime when they got 4 flags on the same drive that when they punted, and I quote (this is literally what I said out loud to my party and posted on Facebook) that it's time for the refs to will the Pats to a td before halftime. Bahahaha, wow was I right. Go on YouTube and watch the gronk hit in that drive. He literally led with his shoulder, was a totally clean hit and then their heads collided. I froze it right when their heads collided and Gibson shoulder was 1 foot ahead of his head - THAT'S NOT HEAD HUNTING EVER, what that is is perfect safety play. Nfl is a joke and I'm honestly losing interest now.

Honestly at this point I can't even remember the last time I saw a important Pats win that didn't involve some total bull flags. Really, what's the point of watching this crap anymore?

Literally every week it's the same story. The NFL/refs want the Patriots to win. Yet Goodell and the league are out to get Patriots/Kraft/Brady. Only one of these can be true, and quite frankly, they both are complete rubbish. If you don't want penalties called against you, don't push, hold, or illegally hit. It's that simple. Don't concern yourself with how the other team does or doesn't get penalized. If you play a clean game, you need not worry about the other team. I listen to this week in and week out. Since the league is rigged, maybe you can lobby congress to initiate an investigation into this corrupt league. After all, the NFL is tax exempt, and if there is corruption going on, they surely should lose their tax-exempt status.

The Patriots have been here 7 times in a row. How much longer are you going to let Kraft and Goodell collude like that? When will teams wake up and see that some real funny business is going on?

Tennessee got beat by the better team. Jacksonville got beat by the better team. And Philly will get beat by the better team. There is order in the NFL, and the Patriots just happen to be at the top of that order right now. Don't like it? Beat them. At least you can then put an end to the collusion between Kraft and the league. And I can then go off and enjoy the 7 SB rings Brady will have won when he rides off into the sunset.

That is all.

(01-22-2018, 01:40 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]Literally every week it's the same story. The NFL/refs want the Patriots to win. Yet Goodell and the league are out to get Patriots/Kraft/Brady. Only one of these can be true, and quite frankly, they both are complete rubbish. If you don't want penalties called against you, don't push, hold, or illegally hit. It's that simple. Don't concern yourself with how the other team does or doesn't get penalized. If you play a clean game, you need not worry about the other team. I listen to this week in and week out. Since the league is rigged, maybe you can lobby congress to initiate an investigation into this corrupt league. After all, the NFL is tax exempt, and if there is corruption going on, they surely should lose their tax-exempt status.

The Patriots have been here 7 times in a row. How much longer are you going to let Kraft and Goodell collude like that? When will teams wake up and see that some real funny business is going on?

Tennessee got beat by the better team. Jacksonville got beat by the better team. And Philly will get beat by the better team. There is order in the NFL, and the Patriots just happen to be at the top of that order right now. Don't like it? Beat them. At least you can then put an end to the collusion between Kraft and the league. And I can then go off and enjoy the 7 SB rings Brady will have won when he rides off into the sunset.

That is all.

Just curious, how old are you? Just trying to gauge if you have ever actually rooted for a team with consecutive losing seasons. Not trying to be mean.

(01-22-2018, 01:40 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]Literally every week it's the same story. The NFL/refs want the Patriots to win. Yet Goodell and the league are out to get Patriots/Kraft/Brady. Only one of these can be true, and quite frankly, they both are complete rubbish. If you don't want penalties called against you, don't push, hold, or illegally hit. It's that simple. Don't concern yourself with how the other team does or doesn't get penalized. If you play a clean game, you need not worry about the other team. I listen to this week in and week out. Since the league is rigged, maybe you can lobby congress to initiate an investigation into this corrupt league. After all, the NFL is tax exempt, and if there is corruption going on, they surely should lose their tax-exempt status.

The Patriots have been here 7 times in a row. How much longer are you going to let Kraft and Goodell collude like that? When will teams wake up and see that some real funny business is going on?

Tennessee got beat by the better team. Jacksonville got beat by the better team. And Philly will get beat by the better team. There is order in the NFL, and the Patriots just happen to be at the top of that order right now. Don't like it? Beat them. At least you can then put an end to the collusion between Kraft and the league. And I can then go off and enjoy the 7 SB rings Brady will have won when he rides off into the sunset.

That is all.

Loooool. OK bro. So what happened here on the lats play of the game for Jags O? How is this missed? https://youtu.be/M_N-eovO9YY

What happened on the Myles Jack fumble recovery that was a easy td if not blown dead for no reason? 

You realize NOT ONE penalty was called in Pats O or D? Lmao that's behind hilarious when penalties can be proven taking place in the replays literally all over YouTube.

(01-22-2018, 01:45 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:40 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]Literally every week it's the same story. The NFL/refs want the Patriots to win. Yet Goodell and the league are out to get Patriots/Kraft/Brady. Only one of these can be true, and quite frankly, they both are complete rubbish. If you don't want penalties called against you, don't push, hold, or illegally hit. It's that simple. Don't concern yourself with how the other team does or doesn't get penalized. If you play a clean game, you need not worry about the other team. I listen to this week in and week out. Since the league is rigged, maybe you can lobby congress to initiate an investigation into this corrupt league. After all, the NFL is tax exempt, and if there is corruption going on, they surely should lose their tax-exempt status.

The Patriots have been here 7 times in a row. How much longer are you going to let Kraft and Goodell collude like that? When will teams wake up and see that some real funny business is going on?

Tennessee got beat by the better team. Jacksonville got beat by the better team. And Philly will get beat by the better team. There is order in the NFL, and the Patriots just happen to be at the top of that order right now. Don't like it? Beat them. At least you can then put an end to the collusion between Kraft and the league. And I can then go off and enjoy the 7 SB rings Brady will have won when he rides off into the sunset.

That is all.

Just curious, how old are you? Just trying to gauge if you have ever actually rooted for a team with consecutive losing seasons. Not trying to be mean.

41. And yes, I've seen very bad Patriots teams in the early 90s pre-Kraft, and rooted for them.

(01-22-2018, 01:50 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:45 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Just curious, how old are you? Just trying to gauge if you have ever actually rooted for a team with consecutive losing seasons. Not trying to be mean.

41. And yes, I've seen very bad Patriots teams in the early 90s pre-Kraft, and rooted for them.

Nice. You are a rarity!

(01-22-2018, 01:50 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:45 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Just curious, how old are you? Just trying to gauge if you have ever actually rooted for a team with consecutive losing seasons. Not trying to be mean.

41. And yes, I've seen very bad Patriots teams in the early 90s pre-Kraft, and rooted for them.

Cool. So answer my question.

(01-22-2018, 01:46 AM)sfljaguarsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:40 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]Literally every week it's the same story...

Loooool. OK bro. So what happened here on the lats play of the game for Jags O? 



What happened on the Myles Jack fumble recovery that was a easy td if not blown dead for no reason? 

That pass by Bortles in the vid you posted was just short. If Blake leads DeDe toward the pylon with that pass - it's either a TD or a PI call. 

The fumble recovery by Jack should not have been blown dead and it's literally the third defensive TD the Jags were robbed of this season.

(01-22-2018, 01:40 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]Literally every week it's the same story. The NFL/refs want the Patriots to win. Yet Goodell and the league are out to get Patriots/Kraft/Brady. Only one of these can be true, and quite frankly, they both are complete rubbish. If you don't want penalties called against you, don't push, hold, or illegally hit. It's that simple. Don't concern yourself with how the other team does or doesn't get penalized. If you play a clean game, you need not worry about the other team. I listen to this week in and week out. Since the league is rigged, maybe you can lobby congress to initiate an investigation into this corrupt league. After all, the NFL is tax exempt, and if there is corruption going on, they surely should lose their tax-exempt status.

The Patriots have been here 7 times in a row. How much longer are you going to let Kraft and Goodell collude like that? When will teams wake up and see that some real funny business is going on?

Tennessee got beat by the better team. Jacksonville got beat by the better team. And Philly will get beat by the better team. There is order in the NFL, and the Patriots just happen to be at the top of that order right now. Don't like it? Beat them. At least you can then put an end to the collusion between Kraft and the league. And I can then go off and enjoy the 7 SB rings Brady will have won when he rides off into the sunset.

That is all.

Yeah, maybe the Pats should follow your advice of not pushing, holding, or illegally hitting, because they [BLEEP] did it all game and the refs acted like they were blind.

[BLEEP] you.  The Patriots are not and were not the better team.

(01-22-2018, 01:46 AM)sfljaguarsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:40 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]Literally every week it's the same story. The NFL/refs want the Patriots to win. Yet Goodell and the league are out to get Patriots/Kraft/Brady. Only one of these can be true, and quite frankly, they both are complete rubbish. If you don't want penalties called against you, don't push, hold, or illegally hit. It's that simple. Don't concern yourself with how the other team does or doesn't get penalized. If you play a clean game, you need not worry about the other team. I listen to this week in and week out. Since the league is rigged, maybe you can lobby congress to initiate an investigation into this corrupt league. After all, the NFL is tax exempt, and if there is corruption going on, they surely should lose their tax-exempt status.

The Patriots have been here 7 times in a row. How much longer are you going to let Kraft and Goodell collude like that? When will teams wake up and see that some real funny business is going on?

Tennessee got beat by the better team. Jacksonville got beat by the better team. And Philly will get beat by the better team. There is order in the NFL, and the Patriots just happen to be at the top of that order right now. Don't like it? Beat them. At least you can then put an end to the collusion between Kraft and the league. And I can then go off and enjoy the 7 SB rings Brady will have won when he rides off into the sunset.

That is all.

Loooool. OK bro. So what happened here on the lats play of the game for Jags O? How is this missed? https://youtu.be/M_N-eovO9YY

What happened on the Myles Jack fumble recovery that was a easy td if not blown dead for no reason? 

You realize NOT ONE penalty was called in Pats O or D? Lmao that's behind hilarious when penalties can be proven taking place in the replays literally all over YouTube.

On the fumble... looks to me that after he got possession of that football Lewis didn't touch him. So yeah, you got robbed on that one. But I don't know what a catch, what a fumble, what a TD is anymore. I have as many gripes with officiating as you do. Believe me.

(01-22-2018, 01:54 AM)sfljaguarsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:50 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]41. And yes, I've seen very bad Patriots teams in the early 90s pre-Kraft, and rooted for them.

Cool. So answer my question.

One of my best friends is a Pat fan, and getting them to admit any wrong doing by their franchise is nearly impossible. You would think someone who went through the pre-Kraft era would have a better understanding for these types of things, but nearly 2 decades of winning changes you as a fan.

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(01-22-2018, 01:57 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:46 AM)sfljaguarsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Loooool. OK bro. So what happened here on the lats play of the game for Jags O? How is this missed? https://youtu.be/M_N-eovO9YY

What happened on the Myles Jack fumble recovery that was a easy td if not blown dead for no reason? 

You realize NOT ONE penalty was called in Pats O or D? Lmao that's behind hilarious when penalties can be proven taking place in the replays literally all over YouTube.

On the fumble... looks to me that after he got possession of that football Lewis didn't touch him. So yeah, you got robbed on that one. But I don't know what a catch, what a fumble, what a TD is anymore. I have as many gripes with officiating as you do. Believe me.

Like what??????? LOL

(01-22-2018, 01:54 AM)sfljaguarsfan Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:50 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]41. And yes, I've seen very bad Patriots teams in the early 90s pre-Kraft, and rooted for them.

Cool. So answer my question.

Which part of "41. And yes, I've seen very bad Patriots teams in the early 90s pre-Kraft, and rooted for them" did you not quite get?

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(01-22-2018, 01:58 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:54 AM)sfljaguarsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Cool. So answer my question.

One of my best friends is a Pat fan, and getting them to admit any wrong doing by their franchise is nearly impossible. You would think someone who went through the pre-Kraft era would have a better understanding for these types of things, but nearly 2 decades of winning changes you as a fan.

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(01-22-2018, 01:57 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]On the fumble... looks to me that after he got possession of that football Lewis didn't touch him. So yeah, you got robbed on that one. But I don't know what a catch, what a fumble, what a TD is anymore. I have as many gripes with officiating as you do. Believe me.

Like what??????? LOL

Well, not particularly in this game.... but over the course of the season, and not just with my team, but with calls throughout the league. I try to watch 3-4 games a week during the season, and *every* game I see calls that are non-calls or bad calls.

(01-22-2018, 02:00 AM)furi0usbee Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-22-2018, 01:54 AM)sfljaguarsfan Wrote: [ -> ]Cool. So answer my question.

Which part of "41. And yes, I've seen very bad Patriots teams in the early 90s pre-Kraft, and rooted for them" did you not quite get?

I guess I "don't quite get"  how u missed my point in asking you to answer the question I asked you literally in the post before. Way to make yourself look "witty" and "clever" though.