(01-21-2018, 09:14 PM)Jest101 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:12 PM)jagsfan1983 Wrote: [ -> ]Patriots clearly held on the final run for first down but seeing as how they haven’t been flagged for an offensive hold in the playoffs since 2006 it is par for the course.
OK...now if that is actually factual?
Just wow...
(01-21-2018, 09:12 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]![[Image: DUGmpMjWAAA1yR5?format=jpg]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUGmpMjWAAA1yR5?format=jpg)
I'm confused? are you pointing out the facemask, the horse collar tackle or the pass interference?
It's not factual and the ball is bouncing AWAY from the receiver in the pic. Not coming in.
Does this mean Refs get Superbowl rings too?
(01-21-2018, 09:52 PM)Patriot71 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:14 PM)Jest101 Wrote: [ -> ]OK...now if that is actually factual?
Just wow...
I'm confused? are you pointing out the facemask, the horse collar tackle or the pass interference?
It's not factual and the ball is bouncing AWAY from the receiver in the pic. Not coming in.
Didn’t realize you were allowed to face mask someone if the ball bounces away from them.
Really hope Caldwell drafts some Refs this year. In fact I'd say rounds 1-7 should be used on drafting Refs.
As annoying as some of the pats fans are being, it's no different than any winning team's fans. We lost because we played scared on offense and the defense didn't show up when it was needed. We lost this game and should have won. That's what hurts so much. We were so close to the super bowl. I agree that the refs didn't make the calls for us that they made for them. But it's nothing new in football. There's always bias and the league wants bigger names in the big game. Until we play like we did this year consistently, we'll never get these calls in the big games. So mad we didn't finish, but so glad we had such a great year. For the crap pile we've been for so long, we finally have something to look forward to. Just sucks we couldn't do it when we were so close.
The fact that Pats fans have to come in here, register and make an account, just to defend their win shows the insecurity they have towards how they won that game. They are looking for acknowledgement from the losing fanbase
Mic drop
(01-21-2018, 09:48 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:42 PM)ZebrasDontPlay Wrote: [ -> ]I'll grant the Bouye was questionable. The other PI resulted in a punt, the helmet to helmet was clear.
5 yard false starts and delay of games also why the jags lost?
Having seen more replays, I'm now of the opinion the refs incorrectly blew the Jack play dead.
Jack clearly forced the fumble, and he and the Patriot fall to the ground.
However, Jack does not gain possession of the ball until he is separated from the Patriots player, who was not touching him.
Jack should have been awarded the football AND he should have been allowed to advance the ball, but once again, a quick whistle deprives the Jaguars defense of a TD.
That's the 3rd time this year.
yea that wasnt even close. it's possible we still blow a 17 point lead with 13:30 to go.
(01-21-2018, 09:55 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:48 PM)Bullseye Wrote: [ -> ]Having seen more replays, I'm now of the opinion the refs incorrectly blew the Jack play dead.
Jack clearly forced the fumble, and he and the Patriot fall to the ground.
However, Jack does not gain possession of the ball until he is separated from the Patriots player, who was not touching him.
Jack should have been awarded the football AND he should have been allowed to advance the ball, but once again, a quick whistle deprives the Jaguars defense of a TD.
That's the 3rd time this year.
yea that wasnt even close. it's possible we still blow a 17 point lead with 13:30 to go.
Absolutely! It could of been 21 points... the Jags started playing Marty ball (conservative) on both sides! Completely outcoached. Perhaps Marrone was being honest when he said he hasn't been watching superbowls because it is almost as if he had no clue he was going up against Brady and BB.
(01-21-2018, 09:43 PM)nypatsfan774 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:33 PM)ZebrasDontPlay Wrote: [ -> ]Not even trolling though. The point is the jags didn't lose because of penalties alone, the bigger issue is the first half there was fire and creativity, defense was getting to Brady rushing just the line, the offensive playcalling was dynamic and hard for the pats to figure out. 2nd half like others pointed out, 2 rushes up the gut then a pass and the defense stayed in the locker room, and started playing off the receivers with much less
I’d like to have intelligent conversation about the game. All I hear is whining and complaining. All I ever hear is the refs won the game for the patriots. Give me a break. Bottom line the patriots won because they outcoached the jaguars coaches . The Jaguars by far have better talent on their roster . I am not disputing the officiating issue
. I think all the referees should be full time. I just think it’s stupid to suggest that the patriots somehow receive favoritism from the rafts I just don’t buy that at all . It’s an excuse
Just give up bro. Not sure why you are even going back and forth with them. I congratulated their team on another thread and somehow, it was seen as being arrogant and a prick. I just said that was a great game and that defense is no joke. Also complemented Bortles. After a loss like this, people generally are in their emotions and aren't thinking logically, plus, you know Bill has the refs paid off. winks*
We have entered the consciousness of America now. We will get at least 3 prime time games next year and go back to the playoffs. We have to play our role and eventually we will be rewarded.
Khan knows what he’s doing
(01-21-2018, 09:46 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:43 PM)nypatsfan774 Wrote: [ -> ]I’d like to have intelligent conversation about the game. All I hear is whining and complaining. All I ever hear is the refs won the game for the patriots. Give me a break. Bottom line the patriots won because they outcoached the jaguars coaches . The Jaguars by far have better talent on their roster . I am not disputing the officiating issue
. I think all the referees should be full time. I just think it’s stupid to suggest that the patriots somehow receive favoritism from the rafts I just don’t buy that at all . It’s an excuse
Signed up days before the game, but only decide you want to have an intelligent conversation AFTER the game.
Yeah that’s right I decided after the game so what? I haven’t said anything insulting I’m only responding to things I’m seeing on your board . Which is just a lot of whining and complaining and excuses. You got beat. Believe me I know how feels. I live in New York. When the patriots went undefeated and got beat by the Giants in the Super Bowl, I sit in between two guys that are Giants fans. I had to go in to work-and take my medicine . New York post newspaper in my cube and Brady doll hanging in a noose a lot of gloating at my expense for a while.
We were robbed. A pats fan wouldn't understand.
7 points were taken away from us for no good reason and directly impacted the result.
(01-21-2018, 08:26 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 08:20 PM)Phil Swift Wrote: [ -> ]That's total nonsense....and sour grapes. The PI call against Cooks? That was the CLASSIC example of PI....interferred with the receiver's ability to get to the ball!
Not even debatable.
The ball was uncatchable.
Was Cooks even inbounds?
He was literally PI'ed out of bounds. Thats the point he was making.
(01-21-2018, 10:09 PM)Boston_Prince Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 08:26 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]The ball was uncatchable.
Was Cooks even inbounds?
He was literally PI'ed out of bounds. Thats the point he was making.
Anything on the fumble? You shouldn't be in the superbowl.
(01-21-2018, 10:09 PM)EBoston_Prince Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 08:26 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]The ball was uncatchable.
Was Cooks even inbounds?
He was literally PI'ed out of bounds. Thats the point he was making.
Ball was overthrown. No call is the right call but whatevs.
It must feel great to never have to worry about a game, having the refs on your side at all times...
Oh well, cheaters gonna cheat. *
(01-21-2018, 10:05 PM)nypatsfan774 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:46 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Signed up days before the game, but only decide you want to have an intelligent conversation AFTER the game.
Yeah that’s right I decided after the game so what? I haven’t said anything insulting I’m only responding to things I’m seeing on your board . Which is just a lot of whining and complaining and excuses. You got beat. Believe me I know how feels. I live in New York. When the patriots went undefeated and got beat by the Giants in the Super Bowl, I sit in between two guys that are Giants fans. I had to go in to work-and take my medicine . New York post newspaper in my cube and Brady doll hanging in a noose a lot of gloating at my expense for a while.
You don’t want to discuss football, you just want to gloat like your noose hanging coworkers.
(01-21-2018, 10:11 PM)CAPTAIN Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 10:09 PM)EBoston_Prince Wrote: [ -> ]He was literally PI'ed out of bounds. Thats the point he was making.
Ball was overthrown. No call is the right call but whatevs.
So let me just understand you think somehow Bob Kraft is paying the referees to make no calls against the patriots ?How exactly does this work in your mind? Explain.
The patriots get favorable calls. It happened again today. Just enjoy the advantage.
(01-21-2018, 10:05 PM)nypatsfan774 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:46 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Signed up days before the game, but only decide you want to have an intelligent conversation AFTER the game.
Yeah that’s right I decided after the game so what? I haven’t said anything insulting I’m only responding to things I’m seeing on your board . Which is just a lot of whining and complaining and excuses. You got beat. Believe me I know how feels. I live in New York. When the patriots went undefeated and got beat by the Giants in the Super Bowl, I sit in between two guys that are Giants fans. I had to go in to work-and take my medicine . New York post newspaper in my cube and Brady doll hanging in a noose a lot of gloating at my expense for a while.
I love the "jags have more talent" narrative when the team you're comparing them to has the best QB to play the game in decades. LOL
The QB weighs a bit heavier when measuring roster talent, no?
The pats coached a little better in the second half than the jags, but the jags are limited in their options offensively because they have to constantly guard against putting Blake in a position to turn the ball over. Not exactly a full palette to paint with.
I'm not whining and complaining. There were some stupid calls and a number of non-calls but not terribly more than there are in most games.
I actually predicted 24-20 NE if the jags make mistakes and 27-20 Jags if the Jags don't screw up. We know which happened.
Defensively - The Jags should have played less zone and played more press - jamming Amendola and Cooks at the line. They didn't. That was a mistake. They should have kept their foot on the gas on offense in the third quarter - but they kept getting backed up an didn't want #5 to throw picks. That's an understandable strategy given his history of doing so.
The Jags are simply a few pieces away on offense from being able to beat the pats right now. If they had their #1 receiver and a run blocking upgrade or two on the O-Line - they probably pull that one off - even with Bortles.
Congrats on the win. Pretty good game.