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Look, it's not that they were bad calls, necessarily. It's that they were not distributed evenly. Aside from the call on Bouye (which I didn't think was legit), every other call they made against the Jags was justifiable (even the early whistle against Jack). However, if all things were equal, the refs would have at least called the two PI's against Marcedes that were obvious. That keeps us on the field. Maybe it doesn't change the game, but at least it's called consistently and you don't feel like the NFL has favorites. It's not like only Jags fans noticed the one-sided calls. It's already a thing on the internet. It's not the reason they lost, but it sure didn't help.

(01-21-2018, 08:09 PM)Last42min Wrote: [ -> ]Look, it's not that they were bad calls, necessarily. It's that they were not distributed evenly. Aside from the call on Bouye (which I didn't think was legit), every other call they made against the Jags was justifiable (even the early whistle against Jack). However, if all things were equal, the refs would have at least called the two PI's against Marcedes that were obvious. That keeps us on the field. Maybe it doesn't change the game, but at least it's called consistently and you don't feel like the NFL has favorites. It's not like only Jags fans noticed the one-sided calls. It's already a thing on the internet. It's not the reason they lost, but it sure didn't help.

Every person I know of other teams are calling BS on the officiating (just what I'm observing on FB).  People are fed up with the Pats favoritism.  A sport without integrity isn't a sport at all.

(01-21-2018, 08:09 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-21-2018, 08:01 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl...ss-player/

Read note 1. 

Church led with his shoulder and everything that happens after is incidental. Conventional tackles aren’t dependent on if he’s still in the air. Now you’re bending the rules to fit your argument.

Edit: He wasn’t in the air, either.

Note 1 refers to a conventional tackle, hits on defenseless receivers are not conventional, hence the fact the have an entire section called "Players in a defenseless posture".

The notes sole purpose is to explain that conventional tackles are not excluded against defenseless receivers. Hitting the defender conventionally is fine so long as you didn’t interfere with the catch—which he didn’t.

In these moments, I am so glad for internet trolls. I hope NFL trolls who dislike New England, like Jets, Ravens, Steeler fans channel all their inner trolls and just let the NE fans have it

I'm confused, how does the NFL actually benefit from choosing one team that 31 teams hate to have win? Are you saying one fan base generates the majority of the NFL revenue?
Even before the game one of the headlines is this officiating squad has a tendency to swallow their whistles outside of blatant calls, with the patriots 2-5 in games officiated by it.
There were missed calls both ways, including one where Romo went to start highlighting how great the coverage on gronkowski was then started mumbling when you saw the defender was pinning his arms down.
Either way, the jags have a solid defense, and either bottles gets a bit more of a natural feel for positioning throws (he was back shoulder all day) or you guys get a good QB and the final cog fits and the jags run the NFL

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(01-21-2018, 08:12 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-21-2018, 08:09 PM)DragonFury Wrote: [ -> ]Note 1 refers to a conventional tackle, hits on defenseless receivers are not conventional, hence the fact the have an entire section called "Players in a defenseless posture".

The notes sole purpose is to explain that conventional tackles are not excluded against defenseless receivers. Hitting the defender conventionally is fine so long as you didn’t interfere with the catch—which he didn’t.

Scrolld down a bit further and read:
Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:

1. forcibly hitting the defenselessplayer’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle the defenselessplayer by encircling or grasping him
   

(01-21-2018, 08:13 PM)ZebrasDontPlay Wrote: [ -> ]I'm confused, how does the NFL actually benefit from choosing one team that 31 teams hate to have win? Are you saying one fan base generates the majority of the NFL revenue?
Even before the game one of the headlines is this officiating squad has a tendency to swallow their whistles outside of blatant calls, with the patriots 2-5 in games officiated by it.
There were missed calls both ways, including one where Romo went to start highlighting how great the coverage on gronkowski was then started mumbling when you saw the defender was pinning his arms down.
Either way, the jags have a solid defense, and either bottles gets a bit more of a natural feel for positioning throws (he was back shoulder all day) or you guys get a good QB and the final cog fits and the jags run the NFL

The halftime show mentioned the questionable PI call and Romo even mentioned, "this is Gillette, the flags are going to come out now." Or something like that...

My guess is the Pats have a lot of bandwagon fans and interest across the country (kind of like the Cowboys in the 90s).  We (actual fans of other teams) can't stand the slant toward the Pats (and there is a factual slant in favor of them).

10/10 times officiating favors the Pats, it's a fact and tonight it changed the outcome of the game.

That takes away the integrity of the sport which makes it worthless.

(01-21-2018, 08:09 PM)Last42min Wrote: [ -> ]Look, it's not that they were bad calls, necessarily. It's that they were not distributed evenly. Aside from the call on Bouye (which I didn't think was legit), every other call they made against the Jags was justifiable (even the early whistle against Jack). However, if all things were equal, the refs would have at least called the two PI's against Marcedes that were obvious. That keeps us on the field. Maybe it doesn't change the game, but at least it's called consistently and you don't feel like the NFL has favorites. It's not like only Jags fans noticed the one-sided calls. It's already a thing on the internet. It's not the reason they lost, but it sure didn't help.

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(01-21-2018, 06:54 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]Title says it all

That's total nonsense....and sour grapes.  The PI call against Cooks?  That was the CLASSIC example of PI....interferred with the receiver's ability to get to the ball!

Not even debatable.

Ball hung in the air and even though Ramsey turned and looked for it he jumped on the receiver's back before the ball got there. You notice how Gilmore defended Westbrook on that 3rd down? They were more sound in the clutch than we were. It's just as simple as that. Defense wasn't good enough. Offense wasn't good enough. We needed a knock out blow and never got it.

(01-21-2018, 08:20 PM)Phil Swift Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-21-2018, 06:54 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]Title says it all

That's total nonsense....and sour grapes.  The PI call against Cooks?  That was the CLASSIC example of PI....interferred with the receiver's ability to get to the ball!

Not even debatable.

The ball was uncatchable.

Was Cooks even inbounds?

(01-21-2018, 06:54 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]Title says it all

commmeeee  onnn... how can anybody watch this and not see the incredible amount of holding calls  the jags got away with, it was nearly every pass attempt they were holding pat receivers??...from the bottom of my heart,ive never seen so many non-calls.............  pats still won.......  jags are great with a lot of fantastic players,,,even on offense they got some capable players...  pats are just a little bit better(for atleast this season)......

We were robbed a TD and no calls on pats. Nobody is remotely surprised everyone gets that treatment v pats

(01-21-2018, 08:25 PM)JaguarJosh05 Wrote: [ -> ]Ball hung in the air and even though Ramsey turned and looked for it he jumped on the receiver's back before the ball got there. You notice how Gilmore defended Westbrook on that 3rd down? They were more sound in the clutch than we were. It's just as simple as that. Defense wasn't good enough. Offense wasn't good enough. We needed a knock out blow and never got it.

PI on Ramsey was fine

Penalty on Church too (but there is nothing else he could do, maybe blow up his knees?)

The PI on Bouye was garbage.  Bouye had perfect coverage. (cost 7 points)

The no calls on holding on their O-Line was garbage.

Blowing Jack dead when he wasn't was garbage (cost 7 points).

Failing to call PI on Marcedes Lewis was garbage

Officiating should not favor one team or the other unfairly.

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(01-21-2018, 08:26 PM)spaceballs12345 Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-21-2018, 06:54 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]Title says it all

commmeeee  onnn... how can anybody watch this and not see the incredible amount of holding calls  the jags got away with, it was nearly every pass attempt they were holding pat receivers??...from the bottom of my heart,ive never seen so many non-calls.............  pats still won.......  jags are great with a lot of fantastic players,,,even on offense they got some capable players...  pats are just a little bit better(for atleast this season)......

This is a joke or your'e drunk right?

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(01-21-2018, 08:26 PM)Scarecrow Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-21-2018, 08:20 PM)Phil Swift Wrote: [ -> ]That's total nonsense....and sour grapes.  The PI call against Cooks?  That was the CLASSIC example of PI....interferred with the receiver's ability to get to the ball!

Not even debatable.

The ball was uncatchable.

Was Cooks even inbounds?

Nope, Bouye had perfect D and had run him out of bounds.

The game was call very well. They let them play. What calls do you think we're wrong?

(01-21-2018, 08:32 PM)Patriot71 Wrote: [ -> ]The game was call very well. They let them play. What calls do you think we're wrong?

Read posts above...some type of favoritism you guys got against the Steelers earlier this year when they took their TD away from them.

Enjoy the Super Bowl!

(01-21-2018, 08:32 PM)Patriot71 Wrote: [ -> ]The game was call very well. They let them play. What calls do you think we're wrong?

There weren't all that many IMO, at least not compared to what normally happens. 

I counted 6 non-calls on Pats OL holding Jags pass rushers. (par for the course all season) 

I counted three PI non calls on pats DBs and three defensive holding non-calls.  One of each of those were ugly and obvious enough to seem unfair. 

The PI against Bouye was pretty tacky as both players were engaged heavily. 

I need another look with the all 22 -  but I think a Jags pass rusher was held on the TD pass to Amendola. 

It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it seemed to favor the home team notably.

(01-21-2018, 08:32 PM)Patriot71 Wrote: [ -> ]The game was call very well. They let them play. What calls do you think we're wrong?

A TD was blown dead. I know you patriots fans dont really follow football but come on

(01-21-2018, 08:32 PM)Patriot71 Wrote: [ -> ]The game was call very well. They let them play. What calls do you think we're wrong?

No, they let new England play. The Jags were penalized to give the Patsies points.

(01-21-2018, 08:36 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]

(01-21-2018, 08:32 PM)Patriot71 Wrote: [ -> ]The game was call very well. They let them play. What calls do you think we're wrong?

There weren't all that many IMO, at least not compared to what normally happens. 

I counted 6 non-calls on Pats OL holding Jags pass rushers. (par for the course all season) 

I counted three PI non calls on pats DBs and three defensive holding non-calls.  One of each of those were ugly and obvious enough to seem unfair. 

The PI against Bouye was pretty tacky as both players were engaged heavily. 

I need another look with the all 22 -  but I think a Jags pass rusher was held on the TD pass to Amendola. 

It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it seemed to favor the home team notably.

Don't forget Jack was blown dead, virtually taking away a TD return right there.