(01-21-2018, 09:12 PM)jagsfan1983 Wrote: [ -> ]Patriots clearly held on the final run for first down but seeing as how they haven’t been flagged for an offensive hold in the playoffs since 2006 it is par for the course.
OK...now if that is actually factual?
Just wow...
(01-21-2018, 09:12 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]![[Image: DUGmpMjWAAA1yR5?format=jpg]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUGmpMjWAAA1yR5?format=jpg)
I'm confused? are you pointing out the facemask, the horse collar tackle or the pass interference?
I will agree officiating in some games has been horrendous this year. But it was not in this Game . Sick and tired of hearing other fans whining, crying and being butt hurt. Your team got beat by the greatest football player in the history of the NFL . You guys played not to lose. You started to play scared, at the end of the first half, or at least your coaches were calling it like they were scared of losing . Why would you kneel on the ball with 55 seconds left before the half ? Jaguars ran out of plays to run. Your Coaches basically had a handful of plays that you ran very well .The Patriots clamped down on defense in the 4th quarter. Actually iif Gilmore doesn’t bat that pass down at the end of the game that’s a touchdown Jaguars win. Take your loss and suck it up.
Does anybody except the most ardent, [BLEEP] Patriots homer think they only committed one penalty? Whatever. I'm still of the opinion the two best teams in the AFC are the Chargers and Jaguars.
(01-21-2018, 09:16 PM)nypatsfan774 Wrote: [ -> ]I will agree officiating in some games has been horrendous this year. But it was not in this Game . Sick and tired of hearing other fans whining, crying and being butt hurt. Your team got beat by the greatest football player in the history of the NFL . You guys played not to lose. You started to play scared, at the end of the first half, or at least your coaches were calling it like they were scared of losing . Why would you kneel on the ball with 55 seconds left before the half ? Jaguars ran out of plays to run. Your Coaches basically had a handful of plays that you ran very well .The Patriots clamped down on defense in the 4th quarter. Actually iif Gilmore doesn’t bat that pass down at the end of the game that’s a touchdown Jaguars win. Take your loss and suck it up.
Enjoy your win. As a man I would want to know I earned it, not that it was gifted to me.
(01-21-2018, 09:17 PM)Jagsfan4life9/28/82 Wrote: [ -> ]Does anybody except the most ardent, [BLEEP] Patriots homer think they only committed one penalty? Whatever. I'm still of the opinion the two best teams in the AFC are the Chargers and Jaguars.
I agree. Most Pats fans are arrogant pricks.
(01-21-2018, 09:04 PM)ZebrasDontPlay Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 08:58 PM)Etdavis2006 Wrote: [ -> ]You might not realize this but penalties change the flow of the game. If we get those holding calls on the Lewis we have sustained drives. If y’all don’t get 90 yards of pass interference you don’t score two tds. Those flags led up to that play.
It goes both ways with non calls. Jags had all the momentum at the start, sustain a few drives via holding and pi on gronk and it may not have been as close of a game.
The problem with your theory is that they called the penalties on the jags. They did not on the pats lol
(01-21-2018, 09:12 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]
not sure how I missed this during the game. when was this?
That how I know I’m a true fan. I sat through 10 years of trash to lose in the AFC championship game this year lol
When Brady retires they proly gonna move that team to London or Mexico lol. [BLEEP] bandwagoners
(01-21-2018, 09:18 PM) pid=\1098170' Wrote:
(01-21-2018, 09:16 PM)nypatsfan774 Wrote: [ -> ]I will agree officiating in some games has been horrendous this year. But it was not in this Game . Sick and tired of hearing other fans whining, crying and being butt hurt. Your team got beat by the greatest football player in the history of the NFL . You guys played not to lose. You started to play scared, at the end of the first half, or at least your coaches were calling it like they were scared of losing . Why would you kneel on the ball with 55 seconds left before the half ? Jaguars ran out of plays to run. Your Coaches basically had a handful of plays that you ran very well .The Patriots clamped down on defense in the 4th quarter. Actually iif Gilmore doesn’t bat that pass down at the end of the game that’s a touchdown Jaguars win. Take your loss and suck it up.
Enjoy your win. As a man I would want to know I earned it, not that it was gifted to me.
(01-21-2018, 09:17 PM)Jagsfan4life9/28/82 Wrote: [ -> ]Does anybody except the most ardent, [BLEEP] Patriots homer think they only committed one penalty? Whatever. I'm still of the opinion the two best teams in the AFC are the Chargers and Jaguars.
I agree. Most Pats fans are arrogant pricks
https://www.google.com/search?q=whing+sn...iQpCS-1-hM:
1 penalty called on the pats in 60 minutes of football is all I need to know
Jags outplayed the pats.
More passing yards, more rushing yards, more time of possession, won the turnover battle. All of it. It was literally 1/10 penalty yards against the pats and 6/98 penalty yards against the jags. That’s the hidden yardage that helped the pats. That’s what your eyes tell you and the stats back it up. Jags got shafted in New England plain and simple. Happens to everyone.
(01-21-2018, 09:11 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:06 PM)Jest101 Wrote: [ -> ]You're delusional. The Jags were whopping the Pats until the end of the second half when the refs gifted them a TD drive. #straightfacts
Why are you bothering with someone that only shows up after the game?
Not even trolling though. The point is the jags didn't lose because of penalties alone, the bigger issue is the first half there was fire and creativity, defense was getting to Brady rushing just the line, the offensive playcalling was dynamic and hard for the pats to figure out. 2nd half like others pointed out, 2 rushes up the gut then a pass and the defense stayed in the locker room, and started playing off the receivers with much less pressure
(01-21-2018, 09:33 PM)ZebrasDontPlay Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:11 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Why are you bothering with someone that only shows up after the game?
Not even trolling though. The point is the jags didn't lose because of penalties alone, the bigger issue is the first half there was fire and creativity, defense was getting to Brady rushing just the line, the offensive playcalling was dynamic and hard for the pats to figure out. 2nd half like others pointed out, 2 rushes up the gut then a pass and the defense stayed in the locker room, and started playing off the receivers with much less pressure
The refs literally walked y’all up the feild in the last two minutes of the second quarter lol. What are you talking about
The Bouye call was bad, but refs didn't cost us this game, coaching did. Terrible call on 3rd and 18 by Wash, and Hackett totally abandoned play action on first down in the fourth quarter. Refs didn't blow it, coaches did.
Refs 100% lost us this game. Its disgusting how rigged the nfl is
(01-21-2018, 09:14 PM)Jest101 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:12 PM)jagsfan1983 Wrote: [ -> ]Patriots clearly held on the final run for first down but seeing as how they haven’t been flagged for an offensive hold in the playoffs since 2006 it is par for the course.
OK...now if that is actually factual?
Just wow...
(01-21-2018, 09:12 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]
I'm confused? are you pointing out the facemask, the horse collar tackle or the pass interference?
I think it's the lack of yellow anywhere.
I'll grant the Bouye was questionable. The other PI resulted in a punt, the helmet to helmet was clear.
5 yard false starts and delay of games also why the jags lost?
(01-21-2018, 09:33 PM)ZebrasDontPlay Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:11 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: [ -> ]Why are you bothering with someone that only shows up after the game?
Not even trolling though. The point is the jags didn't lose because of penalties alone, the bigger issue is the first half there was fire and creativity, defense was getting to Brady rushing just the line, the offensive playcalling was dynamic and hard for the pats to figure out. 2nd half like others pointed out, 2 rushes up the gut then a pass and the defense stayed in the locker room, and started playing off the receivers with much less
I’d like to have intelligent conversation about the game. All I hear is whining and complaining. All I ever hear is the refs won the game for the patriots. Give me a break. Bottom line the patriots won because they outcoached the jaguars coaches . The Jaguars by far have better talent on their roster . I am not disputing the officiating issue
. I think all the referees should be full time. I just think it’s stupid to suggest that the patriots somehow receive favoritism from the rafts I just don’t buy that at all . It’s an excuse
(01-21-2018, 09:43 PM)nypatsfan774 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-21-2018, 09:33 PM)ZebrasDontPlay Wrote: [ -> ]Not even trolling though. The point is the jags didn't lose because of penalties alone, the bigger issue is the first half there was fire and creativity, defense was getting to Brady rushing just the line, the offensive playcalling was dynamic and hard for the pats to figure out. 2nd half like others pointed out, 2 rushes up the gut then a pass and the defense stayed in the locker room, and started playing off the receivers with much less
I’d like to have intelligent conversation about the game. All I hear is whining and complaining. All I ever hear is the refs won the game for the patriots. Give me a break. Bottom line the patriots won because they outcoached the jaguars coaches . The Jaguars by far have better talent on their roster . I am not disputing the officiating issue
. I think all the referees should be full time. I just think it’s stupid to suggest that the patriots somehow receive favoritism from the rafts I just don’t buy that at all . It’s an excuse
Signed up days before the game, but only decide you want to have an intelligent conversation AFTER the game.
See you guys next year at your place.
(01-21-2018, 09:42 PM)ZebrasDontPlay Wrote: [ -> ]I'll grant the Bouye was questionable. The other PI resulted in a punt, the helmet to helmet was clear.
5 yard false starts and delay of games also why the jags lost?
Having seen more replays, I'm now of the opinion the refs incorrectly blew the Jack play dead.
Jack clearly forced the fumble, and he and the Patriot fall to the ground.
However, Jack does not gain possession of the ball until he is separated from the Patriots player, who was not touching him.
Jack should have been awarded the football AND he should have been allowed to advance the ball, but once again, a quick whistle deprives the Jaguars defense of a TD.
That's the 3rd time this year.
To beat the Patriots in New England you have to beat them and overcome the refs. We didnt play well enough to do that. Sure we outplayed the Patriots, had more yards, more time of possession, forced more turnovers, etc... but home field advantage with the refs was enough to tip the scales. We just didnt outplay the Patriots by enough.