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(12-12-2019, 02:58 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]QB coach Scott Milanovich headed to the CFL.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...ead-coach/

Let the mass exodus begin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGHiicMNvA

(12-12-2019, 03:15 PM)jvillejagsn1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-12-2019, 02:58 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]QB coach Scott Milanovich headed to the CFL.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20...ead-coach/

Let the mass exodus begin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwGHiicMNvA

We've had a Malarkey head coach, and one that was a Maroon. So our next head coach will obviously be Dean Pees.

(12-11-2019, 06:47 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-11-2019, 05:50 PM)Brett Wrote: [ -> ]Keep in mind how much these guys (like Aikman and Romo) make being in the booth. Good money. I think it would really take the right opportunity/money for them to come down from their positions. Not sure Jacksonville would be a spot they would choose over their current spots.

Agreed.

Jacksonville will most likely be at the bottom of every new hire list and rightfully so. They don’t have many things that are appealing other than being an NFL team.

I disagree.

The Jags have an owner that is often too patient with GM's/HC than the other way around (as opposed to Cleveland and Washington). He also doesn't have to be the smartest guy in room (as opposed to Dallas).

While there is not a lot of talent on the roster, the talent there is very young (as opposed to Atlanta).

A lot of the salary dead weight can be off the books this off season, and nearly all of it within 2 years (as opposed to Atlanta).

No, they don't have a definite franchise QB, but Minshew may be the best marketable not-sure-if-franchise young QB in the league who could work as a short-term fill in. Plus because he was a 6th round pick, there can be a shorter leash to scrap him and draft a new QB (as opposed to Cleveland or Giants).

Only for sure better situation is probably Carolina, but mainly because they have a great player and more proven pieces already in place rather than draft capital.

The Yahoo football podcast just did a rankings of the open/soon to be open jobs and they ranked us 5th out of 6, only ahead of the Redskins. It might have been 4th out of 5 but I think it was 6 total, regardless we were next to last.

(12-13-2019, 09:49 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]The Yahoo football podcast just did a rankings of the open/soon to be open jobs and they ranked us 5th out of 6, only ahead of the Redskins. It might have been 4th out of 5 but I think it was 6 total, regardless we were next to last.

Well, if the Yahoo football podcast said it...

(12-13-2019, 10:16 AM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 09:49 AM)Upper Wrote: [ -> ]The Yahoo football podcast just did a rankings of the open/soon to be open jobs and they ranked us 5th out of 6, only ahead of the Redskins. It might have been 4th out of 5 but I think it was 6 total, regardless we were next to last.

Well, if the Yahoo football podcast said it...

You might not like it but he's right. Jacksonville doesn't have a lot of salary cap. Defense is in shambles. No QB at the moment and few cornerstone pieces.

(12-13-2019, 10:46 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 10:16 AM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]Well, if the Yahoo football podcast said it...

You might not like it but he's right. Jacksonville doesn't have a lot of salary cap. Defense is in shambles. No QB at the moment and few cornerstone pieces.

But wouldn't it be a great line item on a resume?  What better way to show your worth.  Look what I built out of that [BLEEP] show in Jacksonville.

(12-13-2019, 10:51 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 10:46 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]You might not like it but he's right. Jacksonville doesn't have a lot of salary cap. Defense is in shambles. No QB at the moment and few cornerstone pieces.

But wouldn't it be a great line item on a resume?  What better way to show your worth.  Look what I built out of that [BLEEP] show in Jacksonville.

Marrone, Bradley and Mularkey would say otherwise. It sounds good in theory but the odds are slim and it will most likely end in the HC being fired and having to go back to being an assistant.

Someone is going to take the job because there is only 32 of them but I think there's a reason we ended up with Bradley and Marrone. I don't think it's a high coveted job and hoping for Rhule or Bienemy is wishful thinking at this point IMO.

(12-13-2019, 10:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 10:51 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]But wouldn't it be a great line item on a resume?  What better way to show your worth.  Look what I built out of that [BLEEP] show in Jacksonville.

Marrone, Bradley and Mularkey would say otherwise. It sounds good in theory but the odds are slim and it will most likely end in the HC being fired and having to go back to being an assistant.

Someone is going to take the job because there is only 32 of them but I think there's a reason we ended up with Bradley and Marrone. I don't think it's a high coveted job and hoping for Rhule or Bienemy is wishful thinking at this point IMO.

I think we ended up with Bradley and Marrone because the front office was inept. I mean... with Marrone it seemed like they didn't even try for anyone else.

(12-13-2019, 10:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 10:51 AM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]But wouldn't it be a great line item on a resume?  What better way to show your worth.  Look what I built out of that [BLEEP] show in Jacksonville.

Marrone, Bradley and Mularkey would say otherwise. It sounds good in theory but the odds are slim and it will most likely end in the HC being fired and having to go back to being an assistant.

Someone is going to take the job because there is only 32 of them but I think there's a reason we ended up with Bradley and Marrone. I don't think it's a high coveted job and hoping for Rhule or Bienemy is wishful thinking at this point IMO.

Well, I'm more specifically referring to if they turn the team around.

(12-13-2019, 10:59 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 10:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Marrone, Bradley and Mularkey would say otherwise. It sounds good in theory but the odds are slim and it will most likely end in the HC being fired and having to go back to being an assistant.

Someone is going to take the job because there is only 32 of them but I think there's a reason we ended up with Bradley and Marrone. I don't think it's a high coveted job and hoping for Rhule or Bienemy is wishful thinking at this point IMO.

I think we ended up with Bradley and Marrone because the front office was inept. I mean... with Marrone it seemed like they didn't even try for anyone else.

Coughlin specifically chose Marrone.  I agree with this take.

(12-13-2019, 11:36 AM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 10:59 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]I think we ended up with Bradley and Marrone because the front office was inept. I mean... with Marrone it seemed like they didn't even try for anyone else.

Coughlin specifically chose Marrone.  I agree with this take.

This really shouldn't be that hard of a sell to a promising coaching candidate. You have plenty of draft picks to fix whatever it is you think needs fixed. You coach in a tax free state. Jacksonville is pretty laid back for the most part as well. 

As long as Khan cleans house it really, really shouldn't be that hard of a sell in the weeks to come. A good coach worth his salt could fix this team in due time. A lot of the failures this year seem to be the result of inept coaching and scouting. There's no other explanation for it. 

They started off 4 - 4 and then went on a colossal and historical backslide. There's something wrong with the wiring. Doesn't add up.

(12-13-2019, 10:46 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 10:16 AM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ]Well, if the Yahoo football podcast said it...

You might not like it but he's right. Jacksonville doesn't have a lot of salary cap. Defense is in shambles. No QB at the moment and few cornerstone pieces.

Jags are fine here. They can cut 5 players and get to $50 million in cap space. 4 are injured and only 1 made a questionable impact this year (Dareus). Only difficult cut in the 5 is Calais, but he just isn't worth $17.5 million when he would be a part-time rusher on non-contending team. (Age just caught up with him.) And that is before trying to restructure guys like Linder, Norwell, Bouye, etc. 

True they cannot sign a big name player, but that shouldn't be their targets anyways. They diamonds-in-the rough and overlooked guys who fit the new coaching staff schemes. Consistent good defense is typically due to good schemes and preparation. You do need some elite defensive players, but it is rare to have more than 3-4 studs.

I read that we'll be about $1-2 million under the cap with the new projected cap figure. Releasing Dareus and Lee puts us between $16-17 million. Throw in Swaim and Ryan and we're at $26 million.

Calais may not have a 10+ sack season, but he's still a good DE. I don't like the idea of releasing him just yet.

(12-13-2019, 07:08 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]I read that we'll be about $1-2 million under the cap with the new projected cap figure. Releasing Dareus and Lee puts us between $16-17 million. Throw in Swaim and Ryan and we're at $26 million.

Calais may not have a 10+ sack season, but he's still a good DE. I don't like the idea of releasing him just yet.

I think Abry Jones is as good as gone as well after his last comment and he isnt with 4 mil imo.  Hes a NT that gets pushed around in the run game.  He makes like 2 or 3 splash plays a year

All Khan has to do is send his son along with his lawyer and say look Mr. Head coach  we will just settle it like this

(12-13-2019, 10:59 AM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 10:55 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Marrone, Bradley and Mularkey would say otherwise. It sounds good in theory but the odds are slim and it will most likely end in the HC being fired and having to go back to being an assistant.

Someone is going to take the job because there is only 32 of them but I think there's a reason we ended up with Bradley and Marrone. I don't think it's a high coveted job and hoping for Rhule or Bienemy is wishful thinking at this point IMO.

I think we ended up with Bradley and Marrone because the front office was inept. I mean... with Marrone it seemed like they didn't even try for anyone else.

Bradley was a great hire at the time just like the Joke was a good pick at the time. Hindsight is always easy.

(12-13-2019, 07:08 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]I read that we'll be about $1-2 million under the cap with the new projected cap figure. Releasing Dareus and Lee puts us between $16-17 million. Throw in Swaim and Ryan and we're at $26 million.

Calais may not have a 10+ sack season, but he's still a good DE. I don't like the idea of releasing him just yet.

Actually, according to Spotrac, Dareus alone would save us $20 million, Lee would save another $5 million, Swaim $4 million and Ryan an additional $6 million. That would total $35 million in savings and we really wouldn't be losing anything as long as we replaced Dareus with a good run stuffer. I wouldn't release Campbell either. There really isn't a reason to. We'll have plenty of cap space by cutting unnecessary players.

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(12-13-2019, 07:15 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 07:08 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: [ -> ]I read that we'll be about $1-2 million under the cap with the new projected cap figure. Releasing Dareus and Lee puts us between $16-17 million. Throw in Swaim and Ryan and we're at $26 million.

Calais may not have a 10+ sack season, but he's still a good DE. I don't like the idea of releasing him just yet.

I think Abry Jones is as good as gone as well after his last comment and he isnt with 4 mil imo.  Hes a NT that gets pushed around in the run game.  He makes like 2 or 3 splash plays a year

True.

(12-13-2019, 06:09 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: [ -> ]

(12-13-2019, 10:46 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]You might not like it but he's right. Jacksonville doesn't have a lot of salary cap. Defense is in shambles. No QB at the moment and few cornerstone pieces.

Jags are fine here. They can cut 5 players and get to $50 million in cap space. 4 are injured and only 1 made a questionable impact this year (Dareus). Only difficult cut in the 5 is Calais, but he just isn't worth $17.5 million when he would be a part-time rusher on non-contending team. (Age just caught up with him.) And that is before trying to restructure guys like Linder, Norwell, Bouye, etc. 

True they cannot sign a big name player, but that shouldn't be their targets anyways. They diamonds-in-the rough and overlooked guys who fit the new coaching staff schemes. Consistent good defense is typically due to good schemes and preparation. You do need some elite defensive players, but it is rare to have more than 3-4 studs.

He needs to GO AWAY. He does nothing for this team. I was excited when we signed him. Now he just pisses me off.