(03-19-2020, 02:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:11 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]He just doesn't understand what bigger picture means.
He's also a liar at worst and disingenuous at best. Not personal, all business... yet the team that's offering you MUCH MORE than the next team... you're not going to accept? Because you were butthurt they didn't offer you that money last year?
What a loser.
Oh really?
How much has be been offered from the Jags?
How much has he been offered elsewhere?
Oh, what's that? You have no [BLEEP] clue??
Yeah, that's what I thought.
And I guess you pay ZERO attention to all local media saying those things....
Not sure why you're defending him.
He's being a little child. He's a grown man, he doesn't need your coddling.
But but but Yan is a true pro, a class act, a role model for all players....
(03-19-2020, 02:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Oh really?
How much has be been offered from the Jags?
How much has he been offered elsewhere?
Oh, what's that? You have no [BLEEP] clue??
Yeah, that's what I thought.
Are you his agent disguised as a message board user? If so, when is your next album dropping?
His agent isn't a rapper. Why do keep spouting that dumb [BLEEP]?
Look, I'm just pointing out how stupid it is for you guys to be sitting here acting like you have a clue what's going on when you don't.
And , then you make it even more apparent by displaying your cluelessness by once again stating something that's been refuted and explained to you. Perfect *shrug*
Go ahead with your baseless name calling, I guess. I hope for your sake ignorance truly is bliss.
(03-19-2020, 02:33 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:17 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Are you his agent disguised as a message board user? If so, when is your next album dropping?
His agent isn't a rapper. Why do keep spouting that dumb [BLEEP]?
Look, I'm just pointing out how stupid it is for you guys to be sitting here acting like you have a clue what's going on when you don't.
And , then you make it even more apparent by displaying your cluelessness by once again stating something that's been refuted and explained to you. Perfect *shrug*
Go ahead with your baseless name calling, I guess. I hope for your sake ignorance truly is bliss.
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(03-19-2020, 02:18 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:13 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Oh really?
How much has be been offered from the Jags?
How much has he been offered elsewhere?
Oh, what's that? You have no [BLEEP] clue??
Yeah, that's what I thought.
And I guess you pay ZERO attention to all local media saying those things....
Not sure why you're defending him.
He's being a little child. He's a grown man, he doesn't need your coddling.
Oh he’s being a little child? Hahaha not the grown man complaining about him on a message board?
(03-19-2020, 02:42 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:18 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]And I guess you pay ZERO attention to all local media saying those things....
Not sure why you're defending him.
He's being a little child. He's a grown man, he doesn't need your coddling.
Oh he’s being a little child? Hahaha not the grown man complaining about him on a message board?
He's the one with a cryptic tweet every day... like a child that wants attention.
He's basically every single person that rides a Harley - a spoiled brat that needs everyone to notice them.
(03-19-2020, 02:44 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:42 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Oh he’s being a little child? Hahaha not the grown man complaining about him on a message board?
He's the one with a cryptic tweet every day... like a child that wants attention.
He's basically every single person that rides a "crotch rocket"- a spoiled brat that needs everyone to notice them.
FTFY
Harley riders are usually nicer older guys.
Lil twits on those ridiculous crotch rockets probably fit your analogy better.
The idiots that wear shorts and sandals and no helmets while going 100 mph in the city while lane splitting....
I'll let you guys get back to your back and forth arguing tho.
(03-19-2020, 02:49 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:44 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]He's the one with a cryptic tweet every day... like a child that wants attention.
He's basically every single person that rides a "crotch rocket"- a spoiled brat that needs everyone to notice them.
FTFY
Harley riders are usually nicer older guys.
Lil twits on those ridiculous crotch rockets probably fit your analogy better.
The idiots that wear shorts and sandals and no helmets while going 100 mph in the city while lane splitting....
I'll let you guys get back to your back and forth arguing tho.
Maybe I should have said Harleys with the muffler removed?
(03-19-2020, 02:44 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:42 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Oh he’s being a little child? Hahaha not the grown man complaining about him on a message board?
He's the one with a cryptic tweet every day... like a child that wants attention.
He's basically every single person that rides a Harley - a spoiled brat that needs everyone to notice them.
These guys are all-in on Yannick just like they were all-in on Ramsey, putting 100% of the blame on the organization as if their behavior was perfect the whole time.
Nevertheless, Yannick is a liar, but most reasonable people already knew that.
(03-19-2020, 02:51 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:44 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]He's the one with a cryptic tweet every day... like a child that wants attention.
He's basically every single person that rides a Harley - a spoiled brat that needs everyone to notice them.
These guys are all-in on Yannick just like they were all-in on Ramsey, putting 100% of the blame on the organization as if their behavior was perfect the whole time.
Nevertheless, Yannick is a liar, but most reasonable people already knew that.
The organization is definitely not blameless.
However, PROFESSIONALS put aside past grievances and work towards a greater good.. not just throwing in the towel, taking the ball and screaming SCREW YOU GUYS! I AM GOING HOME!
Front Office deserves some heat for failing to secure him sooner. Especially when you consider the embarrassing information that was revealed with Coughlin's fines towards the players and also the deals they were making with players like Bortles, Foles, Jack's extension and Lee's extension.
Ngakoue and his agent deserve some heat for his behavior via social media with his messages he's been sending out and the fact that if what's being reported is accurate? His market is NOT where they thought it was last year when the initial extension was offered.
Two way street at the the end of the day. Both parties are guilty here. We'll just call it "business" at the end of the day of course. But it's a messy business in this case.
(03-19-2020, 02:44 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:42 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]Oh he’s being a little child? Hahaha not the grown man complaining about him on a message board?
He's the one with a cryptic tweet every day... like a child that wants attention.
He's basically every single person that rides a Harley - a spoiled brat that needs everyone to notice them.
When the excavator is stuck in the hole, it's best to stop digging.
(03-19-2020, 03:45 PM)Mikey Wrote: [ -> ] (03-19-2020, 02:44 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]He's the one with a cryptic tweet every day... like a child that wants attention.
He's basically every single person that rides a Harley - a spoiled brat that needs everyone to notice them.
When the excavator is stuck in the hole, it's best to stop digging.
Harleys are the most annoying things on the roads.. and the people that remove the muffler are the worst of the worst.
(03-19-2020, 03:11 PM)Caldrac Wrote: [ -> ]Front Office deserves some heat for failing to secure him sooner. Especially when you consider the embarrassing information that was revealed with Coughlin's fines towards the players and also the deals they were making with players like Bortles, Foles, Jack's extension and Lee's extension.
Ngakoue and his agent deserve some heat for his behavior via social media with his messages he's been sending out and the fact that if what's being reported is accurate? His market is NOT where they thought it was last year when the initial extension was offered.
Two way street at the the end of the day. Both parties are guilty here. We'll just call it "business" at the end of the day of course. But it's a messy business in this case.
The "culprit" in the front office everyone blamed was fired. Yan didn't want to be here and latched on to the same excuse everyone else did, but he must have forgotten the guy was fired.
I must have missed the part where Tom Coughlin was the only thing bad about the Jaguars that may lead a player to seek greener pastures.
Everything else around the 'bank is just springing up teal roses and pure like the morning dew drops, huh?
If the reports are true that no other team has offered Yan as much as we have, he dug himself a bit of a hole with his tweet about not wanting to play here. Someone needs to tell him to put the phone away. With all the attention craving tweets, it's starting to get a little embarrassing for him.
At this point I think pride may be getting in the way of him signing a long term deal. If we do deal him to a team that offers him less, he'll have to come up with some other excuse about wanting to leave. But up until now this whole time it's only been about the money for him. And if you end up getting paid less, pretty obvious he didnt go about this well.
(03-19-2020, 03:56 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]I must have missed the part where Tom Coughlin was the only thing bad about the Jaguars that may lead a player to seek greener pastures.
Everything else around the 'bank is just springing up teal roses and pure like the morning dew drops, huh?
There's a disconnect somewhere in that building. Coughlin was hung out to dry for the majority of it. Which is fair. All of the reports that came out were primarily linked to him. And it cost him his job.
We were then told Marrone was fired, then the news was quickly retracted, and then we heard a few months ago that Khan spoke with the players and the locker room and the feeling was that they all liked Marrone and that he should stick around another year.
So, WTH is going on? Because nothing seems to add up. Flip "mutually" parts ways. Wash still has his job? As does Marrone? And here we are now with possibly the last piece of that 2017 defense (with the exception of Jack) being traded away along with Campbell and Bouye this off season after having dealt Ramsey away mid season last year.
Pretty obvious it's a [BLEEP] show up there. We all know that. But there's a lot of actions not lining up with words as well between the players and the front office. That includes Yannick "Pay Da Man!" Ngakoue.
(03-19-2020, 04:19 PM)rfc17 Wrote: [ -> ]If the reports are true that no other team has offered Yan as much as we have, he dug himself a bit of a hole with his tweet about not wanting to play here. Someone needs to tell him to put the phone away. With all the attention craving tweets, it's starting to get a little embarrassing for him.
At this point I think pride may be getting in the way of him signing a long term deal. If we do deal him to a team that offers him less, he'll have to come up with some other excuse about wanting to leave. But up until now this whole time it's only been about the money for him. And if you end up getting paid less, pretty obvious he didnt go about this well.
I agree. His agent got way, way, WAY too far into his head. Over inflated his value along with his ego. And now he's getting a dose of reality. Nobody is going to pay you Shire Horse size money if you're just a One Trick Pony. And so far? He's been exactly that.
He's an above average pass rusher that leaves you wanting in the run game department. And he played with some pretty talented players along the front four that he benefited from for the most part.
He shouldn't be getting $17.5M - $20M+ per year. Unless you're putting up Reggie White, Bruce Smith or J.J Watt like numbers in every aspect of the game? You don't need to be seeking to be paid like the numero uno at your position.
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