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Why the Middle East won't take Palestinian refugees. This explains it in a nutshell. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r7GAg8sWDp...RpbmlhbnMg

(11-14-2023, 11:59 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Why the Middle East won't take Palestinian refugees. This explains it in a nutshell. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r7GAg8sWDp...RpbmlhbnMg

Yep, this is why I've said no one wants them and the only way to stop this is a mass prison or they're all dead. I guess Iran could take them but they need 3rd party land to launch missles so they won't want them to give up the land.

No matter where they go, they cause problems. I'm shocked we haven't seen anything in the US yet. This weekend may see something happen though.

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(11-14-2023, 11:59 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Why the Middle East won't take Palestinian refugees. This explains it in a nutshell. 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r7GAg8sWDp...RpbmlhbnMg

This video is mostly accurate. Its portrayal of what went on in Kuwait is basically right.  But Lebanon and Jordan didn't follow that pattern. In Jordan, the Palestinian leadership was expelled, but most of the ordinary Palestinian people chose to remain and they became Jordanian citizens afterwards. There haven't been many problems from that point forward.  In Lebanon they all got caught up in a civil war, that is not resolved, and it's basically been a failed state most of these years.  Each sect in Lebanon has its own standing army, not just the Palestinians.  Few are afraid of turning out like Jordan, but no one wants to turn out like Kuwait or Lebanon.

I can't think of a faster way to turn people against your cause than by inconveniencing them or causing businesses to incur costs. 

Bay Bridge protesters fully shut down westbound traffic

(11-16-2023, 01:29 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I can't think of a faster way to turn people against your cause than by inconveniencing them or causing businesses to incur costs. 

Bay Bridge protesters fully shut down westbound traffic

If I lost time at work because of these fools I'd find a way to sue that group for wages lost, gas wasted, and "pain and suffering" that made me see a therapist because the incident "traumatized" me and anything else I could legally get away with. 

I don't have a problem with protests but I do have a problem with this. It disrupts people's ability to go about their daily activities. Even worse is what if an emergency vehicle has to get across? They've cost someone their house (burning down) or their life.

The Israelis clear streets out with combat D9 bulldozers.  That's so bad [BLEEP]. 

https://youtu.be/HKLGQ7Lrjsw?si=3Xg9f27nnlSxIIdb

‘All interviews have to go through our press liaison.’

‘I don’t know about rights.’

This was said by a person with a covered face.

https://youtube.com/shorts/W4qSXMkq1vw?s...XdlZYwkqtl

Another hour gone.

Sadly, this is the knowledge level of many protesters regardless of cause. 

Click with resolve, L2L.

https://youtube.com/shorts/OGmr6vD7f_w?s...1j5pD6atNX

Ah man...I have to know what you're posting, but can I be disciplined?

(11-21-2023, 04:39 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Ah man...I have to know what you're posting, but can I be disciplined?

The answer was no.

(11-21-2023, 05:31 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-21-2023, 04:39 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Ah man...I have to know what you're posting, but can I be disciplined?

The answer was no.

Now you can go visit your friend from the other thread and get a different kind of discipline. Naughty!

I’m dedicating this one to Marty since he believes the media isn’t biased but simply reporting from their world view. 

https://youtube.com/shorts/fQzQo0eLO8w?s...GOd7csevTT

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(11-21-2023, 05:31 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-21-2023, 04:39 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Ah man...I have to know what you're posting, but can I be disciplined?

The answer was no.

Now we know why Tik Tok is so addicting.

Opinion: I reported on Hamas in Gaza for over a decade. Here are the questions I’m asking myself now (msn.com)

...Journalists working in conflict zones too often pull punches in the interest of appearing neutral, or perhaps to ensure that they stay in the good graces of the gunmen in charge. Many of the questions that now reverberate in my head have no easy answers, but I can say that the ultimate goal for too many of us in the media was to ensure continued access to the big story, not to consider whether the people we were dealing with were good actors or reliable sources. Though it’s important for readers and viewers to hear Palestinian voices as well as those of Israelis, treating Hamas like a legitimate government was perhaps the worst of bothsidesism.

In 2014, a German journalist was heavily criticized for embedding himself with ISIS for a documentary. Trying to explain such a despicable group of murderers went beyond the pale, critics said. Weren’t there some actors whose behavior was so heinous that they didn’t deserve a platform or even so much as a quote, which might only afford them a measure of legitimacy?

Is this the approach we should have taken with Hamas, or ought to moving forward? In an ideal world, yes, but in this dystopian one we’re watching unfold, that may be too much to expect. In the meantime, if journalists continue to interview members of Hamas, we should report their words more critically and not take their comments at face value. We should provide context that notes how unverifiable their information is and how poor their track record for accuracy has been. And we should not shy away from asking ourselves whether our interviews afford them too much legitimacy and give them more of a platform than they deserve.




What's funny is these same journalists pull no punches on Israel. I can't help but think this writer is also hinting at ideological bias, but that's a bridge too far. At least for now. Baby steps.

Idiot shouldn't have been giving Hamas the time of day. They don't deserve a voice or a story or anything other than being taken out.

So, the YouTube algorithm presented to me a 12-minute video of close quarter combat recorded by Israeli troops. I'm watching this and thinking to myself, "What the hell did Hamas think was going to happen after attacking Israel is such a brutal and soulless fashion?"

They were just a bunch of tunnel building moles. There wasn't a brain trust among the bunch. I read somewhere the CIA picked up chatter from the Iranians expressing anger and disbelief that Hamas launched these attacks on their own when, I'm sure, Iran must have had a 'weapons for cooperation' agreement with them.

What a miserable experience it must have been to live among so many men completely single-minded in a mission to beckon hell upon their own. It really sucks for Gazans who just wanted to live life.

I can only think that Hamas thought that Israel my initiate a land attack on the Gaza Strip but they would be protected by holding hostages, using their tunnel system to defend themselves, and other middle eastern countries intervening to come to their defense. I don't think they ever thought Israel would flatten the Gaza Strip, while other middle eastern countries would sit back and not take military action.

Personally, I think it's pretty amazing that Israel continues to bombard the Gaza Strip and the US is looking like peacemakers during this conflict. The US is usually portrayed as the bad guy no matter what. I mean, we can send billions of dollars to help Haiti recover from an earthquake and we're still portrayed as the bad guys ......

Hamas knew IDF would go Full Metal Jacket on Gaza. They counted on it. The optics of Israel bombing the nuts off of Gaza and killing a buttload of innocent people is priceless even if it's not working out the way Hamas intended. Israel had told Hamas if they attack, IDF would pretty much go scorched earth on them. Sadly, the collateral damage of death and displaced folks is the price the Palestinians pay for voting a terrorist organization into their government.

(01-03-2024, 11:26 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Hamas knew IDF would go Full Metal Jacket on Gaza. They counted on it. The optics of Israel bombing the nuts off of Gaza and killing a buttload of innocent people is priceless even if it's not working out the way Hamas intended. Israel had told Hamas if they attack, IDF would pretty much go scorched earth on them. Sadly, the collateral damage of death and displaced folks is the price the Palestinians pay for voting a terrorist organization into their government.

That's a pretty dark way of looking at it. Does that include kids who've never voted in their lives? Given the last election was in 2006, you'd have to be 35 or over to have ever voted for anyone in Gaza (and that's not even taking into account the 56% of Gazans who did vote in that election but didn't vote for Hamas).

It might be dark, but it's a reality. Without a reform program, there's no way those kids are voting any differently. Culturally, they are taught to hate the Jews. It's easy to shape the world view of a child.