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The first few episodes of season 4 of True Detective so far have left me kind of flat. There is a lack of the type of cast chemistry that made the first three seasons so great. Also the weirdness is there but seems more forced this season. We’ll have to see how things progress.
(02-05-2024, 02:09 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]The first few episodes of season 4 of True Detective so far have left me kind of flat. There is a lack of the type of cast chemistry that made the first three seasons so great. Also the weirdness is there but seems more forced this season. We’ll have to see how things progress.

Yeah.  I’m thoroughly unimpressed at this point.
(02-05-2024, 02:09 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]The first few episodes of season 4 of True Detective so far have left me kind of flat. There is a lack of the type of cast chemistry that made the first three seasons so great. Also the weirdness is there but seems more forced this season. We’ll have to see how things progress.
(02-05-2024, 07:25 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-05-2024, 02:09 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]The first few episodes of season 4 of True Detective so far have left me kind of flat. There is a lack of the type of cast chemistry that made the first three seasons so great. Also the weirdness is there but seems more forced this season. We’ll have to see how things progress.

Yeah.  I’m thoroughly unimpressed at this point.
All the wokeness has me waiting until the end of the season so I can binge it and just stop watching or be done quickly if it's bad

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(02-06-2024, 01:25 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-05-2024, 02:09 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]The first few episodes of season 4 of True Detective so far have left me kind of flat. There is a lack of the type of cast chemistry that made the first three seasons so great. Also the weirdness is there but seems more forced this season. We’ll have to see how things progress.
(02-05-2024, 07:25 PM)RicoTx Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah.  I’m thoroughly unimpressed at this point.
All the wokeness has me waiting until the end of the season so I can binge it and just stop watching or be done quickly if it's bad

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The concept of the story isn’t bad but the execution’s been off. Mostly I think because Jodie Foster and Kali Reis appear to have zero on-screen chemistry. Also, if they’re not careful, the central mystery is going to teeter into campiness. There’s still time to save it but they need to get rolling.
I watched the first episode of Mr. and Mrs. Smith on Prime. It's their new series and not like the movie.

Two strangers land jobs with a spy agency that offers them a life of espionage, wealth, and travel. The catch: new identities in an arranged marriage.

It stars Donald Glover (who is also creator and executive producer)  and Maya Erskine and it looks like each episode is going to have a 'big name' guest star. The first episode has Alexander Skarsgaard. Other episodes have Ron Pearlman and John Turturro.

It's very different from the movie and I'm not sure that's a bad thing. I liked the movie for what it was and this is way more low-key so far. The agents don't know each other thus their marriage is a cover which makes it interesting to see how they interact. I'll continue watching to see how it rolls.
(02-06-2024, 03:23 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I watched the first episode of Mr. and Mrs. Smith on Prime. It's their new series and not like the movie.

Two strangers land jobs with a spy agency that offers them a life of espionage, wealth, and travel. The catch: new identities in an arranged marriage.

It stars Donald Glover (who is also creator and executive producer)  and Maya Erskine and it looks like each episode is going to have a 'big name' guest star. The first episode has Alexander Skarsgaard. Other episodes have Ron Pearlman and John Turturro.

It's very different from the movie and I'm not sure that's a bad thing. I liked the movie for what it was and this is way more low-key so far. The agents don't know each other thus their marriage is a cover which makes it interesting to see how they interact. I'll continue watching to see how it rolls.

It's very much Glover's style. If you watched any of Atlanta, you will see the same type of episode flow. Watched a couple of episodes and you are either going to be bored to death by the slowness or love it. The spy stuff is basically just filler to keep things happening.

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(02-05-2024, 02:09 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]The first few episodes of season 4 of True Detective so far have left me kind of flat. There is a lack of the type of cast chemistry that made the first three seasons so great. Also the weirdness is there but seems more forced this season. We’ll have to see how things progress.

Yeah that’s it.  Season 1 as I recall (haven’t gone back and re-watched since it debuted), was a lot of “what the hell is going on” with a lot of innuendo and much left up to the viewer’s imagination.  Season 4 is bringing the super natural directly into it which cheapens it a bit in my opinion.  Still an entertaining enough watch, but as you say they are currently on a poorly chosen/written path that I hope they are able to get off.  That and reading about Reis and showrunner Issa Lopez openly decrying what they call a coordinated attempt to down vote the show on rotten tomatoes isn’t building any goodwill with me.  Even though I may not be compelled to down vote the show, I completely see and understand the criticisms being lobbed at it.  I think they’d be better served ignoring criticisms and focusing on their next project than bellyaching, but that’s just me.
I have several streaming platforms available, but I don't watch many movies or shows anymore. I've started watching the epochal British documentary series The World at War. I've seen various episodes of it throughout the years, but now I'm watching all 26 installments from beginning to end.
(02-07-2024, 10:38 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I have several streaming platforms available, but I don't watch many movies or shows anymore. I've started watching the epochal British documentary series The World at War. I've seen various episodes of it throughout the years, but now I'm watching all 26 installments from beginning to end.

That is such a great series.  I used to have it all on DVD, but I loaned it to somebody and never got it back.
(02-08-2024, 06:57 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-07-2024, 10:38 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I have several streaming platforms available, but I don't watch many movies or shows anymore. I've started watching the epochal British documentary series The World at War. I've seen various episodes of it throughout the years, but now I'm watching all 26 installments from beginning to end.

That is such a great series.  I used to have it all on DVD, but I loaned it to somebody and never got it back.

It really is. Curiously, Amazon Prime has them all but says it’s not available for viewing. I don’t know what that’s about.
There is an internet archive site which has them. 

They can also be found on YouTube, which I prefer to use because closed captioning is available, but I don’t know if all episodes are there. However, to avoid copyright infringement, the sound goes blank when any kind of artist recorded music is used in the production background. So if a prewar song by some long dead French singer is used as ambience on the soundtrack, all audio is completely muted. Very annoying.
(02-08-2024, 07:51 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2024, 06:57 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]That is such a great series.  I used to have it all on DVD, but I loaned it to somebody and never got it back.

It really is. Curiously, Amazon Prime has them all but says it’s not available for viewing. I don’t know what that’s about.
There is an internet archive site which has them. 

They can also be found on YouTube, which I prefer to use because closed captioning is available, but I don’t know if all episodes are there. However, to avoid copyright infringement, the sound goes blank when any kind of artist recorded music is used in the production background. So if a prewar song by some long dead French singer is used as ambience on the soundtrack, all audio is completely muted. Very annoying.

The script and the narration are top-notch.  Laurence Olivier, of course.  I think my favorite episodes are the ones from the Russian front, which Americans don't study that much in their history classes.
(02-08-2024, 08:45 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2024, 07:51 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]It really is. Curiously, Amazon Prime has them all but says it’s not available for viewing. I don’t know what that’s about.
There is an internet archive site which has them. 

They can also be found on YouTube, which I prefer to use because closed captioning is available, but I don’t know if all episodes are there. However, to avoid copyright infringement, the sound goes blank when any kind of artist recorded music is used in the production background. So if a prewar song by some long dead French singer is used as ambience on the soundtrack, all audio is completely muted. Very annoying.

The script and the narration are top-notch.  Laurence Olivier, of course.  I think my favorite episodes are the ones from the Russian front, which Americans don't study that much in their history classes.

Prime has a fantastic Soviet documentary called Storm From The East about the Eastern War. Highly recommend even though every battle ends with some iteration of "General Ivan Petrovovich was executed for treason in 1945" whether he won or lost the current battle.
(02-08-2024, 08:51 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2024, 08:45 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]The script and the narration are top-notch.  Laurence Olivier, of course.  I think my favorite episodes are the ones from the Russian front, which Americans don't study that much in their history classes.

Prime has a fantastic Soviet documentary called Storm From The East about the Eastern War. Highly recommend even though every battle ends with some iteration of "General Ivan Petrovovich was executed for treason in 1945" whether he won or lost the current battle.

Victory at Sea is another great multi-part WWII documentary, made about the same time as The World at War.

Victory at Sea - Wikipedia
(02-08-2024, 08:45 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2024, 07:51 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]It really is. Curiously, Amazon Prime has them all but says it’s not available for viewing. I don’t know what that’s about.
There is an internet archive site which has them. 

They can also be found on YouTube, which I prefer to use because closed captioning is available, but I don’t know if all episodes are there. However, to avoid copyright infringement, the sound goes blank when any kind of artist recorded music is used in the production background. So if a prewar song by some long dead French singer is used as ambience on the soundtrack, all audio is completely muted. Very annoying.

The script and the narration are top-notch.  Laurence Olivier, of course.  I think my favorite episodes are the ones from the Russian front, which Americans don't study that much in their history classes.

The British are the world’s superlative documentarians, hands down. 

The making of TWAW was astute timing. They recognized there weren’t too many more years remaining until infirmity and death silenced the voices of those involved in that history.

(02-08-2024, 09:06 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2024, 08:51 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Prime has a fantastic Soviet documentary called Storm From The East about the Eastern War. Highly recommend even though every battle ends with some iteration of "General Ivan Petrovovich was executed for treason in 1945" whether he won or lost the current battle.

Victory at Sea is another great multi-part WWII documentary, made about the same time as The World at War.

Victory at Sea - Wikipedia

When I was on the Kitty Hawk, we used to watch those at sea because they were shown on the ship’s TV. Talk about ambience.
(02-07-2024, 03:56 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2024, 03:23 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I watched the first episode of Mr. and Mrs. Smith on Prime. It's their new series and not like the movie.

Two strangers land jobs with a spy agency that offers them a life of espionage, wealth, and travel. The catch: new identities in an arranged marriage.

It stars Donald Glover (who is also creator and executive producer)  and Maya Erskine and it looks like each episode is going to have a 'big name' guest star. The first episode has Alexander Skarsgaard. Other episodes have Ron Pearlman and John Turturro.

It's very different from the movie and I'm not sure that's a bad thing. I liked the movie for what it was and this is way more low-key so far. The agents don't know each other thus their marriage is a cover which makes it interesting to see how they interact. I'll continue watching to see how it rolls.

It's very much Glover's style. If you watched any of Atlanta, you will see the same type of episode flow. Watched a couple of episodes and you are either going to be bored to death by the slowness or love it. The spy stuff is basically just filler to keep things happening.

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I watched episode two last night and it was alright. I don't mind a slow moving story as long as things are still interesting and moving forward. 

E2 in a nutshell:

-agents declaring they won't get involved sexually

-then they're on a job where they're being made to act like dogs -  they're on all fours barking like dogs and sniffing each other, then kissing

-they accidentally kill a guy and stuff him into a composter in their yard

-by the end of the episode they're banging each other

There are definitely plot holes that are glaring but if the spy stuff is a side dish to the main course which seems to be their relationship then I guess plot holes don't matter to the show runner but I can see it turning people off from it. 

Come to think of it, the agents aren't even trained. They were recruited and show up at the house they live in. That's it. Yeah, I may not last the season depending on how this goes.
(02-07-2024, 07:41 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-05-2024, 02:09 PM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]The first few episodes of season 4 of True Detective so far have left me kind of flat. There is a lack of the type of cast chemistry that made the first three seasons so great. Also the weirdness is there but seems more forced this season. We’ll have to see how things progress.

Yeah that’s it.  Season 1 as I recall (haven’t gone back and re-watched since it debuted), was a lot of “what the hell is going on” with a lot of innuendo and much left up to the viewer’s imagination.  Season 4 is bringing the super natural directly into it which cheapens it a bit in my opinion.  Still an entertaining enough watch, but as you say they are currently on a poorly chosen/written path that I hope they are able to get off.  That and reading about Reis and showrunner Issa Lopez openly decrying what they call a coordinated attempt to down vote the show on rotten tomatoes isn’t building any goodwill with me.  Even though I may not be compelled to down vote the show, I completely see and understand the criticisms being lobbed at it.  I think they’d be better served ignoring criticisms and focusing on their next project than bellyaching, but that’s just me.

Just watched episode 4 last night and it was the first time that I felt like they were really capturing the atmosphere of the first 3 seasons. Maybe there's hope yet.

(02-07-2024, 10:38 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]I have several streaming platforms available, but I don't watch many movies or shows anymore. I've started watching the epochal British documentary series The World at War. I've seen various episodes of it throughout the years, but now I'm watching all 26 installments from beginning to end.

I'm really into historical documentaries in general, documentaries on the wars of the 20th century are almost always compelling. "World at War" has to be one of the best if not THE best on WWII. "Apocalypse: The Second World War" is a really good one too.
(02-08-2024, 07:51 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2024, 06:57 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]That is such a great series.  I used to have it all on DVD, but I loaned it to somebody and never got it back.

It really is. Curiously, Amazon Prime has them all but says it’s not available for viewing. I don’t know what that’s about.
There is an internet archive site which has them. 

Sometimes Prime, Netflix, and other streaming services says its available but they're actually available in other countries and not the US as I came to find out on a few occasions.
Anyone watch the Twisted Metal tv show? I actually really enjoyed it. Brought me back to my younger days of playing Twisted Metal as a kid. Excited about season 2.
Catching up on some older Netflix series post-retirement.

Bloodline was an enjoyable 1st season.
Designated Survivor was decent for the 1st 2 seasons, but the 3rd season is pretty disappointing so far.
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