Quote:I just honestly don't see STL trading down.
They haven't been relevant in a while, and are pretty close all things considered.
Getting an elite guy at #2 could put them over the top
They were #2 in 2012 and traded down twice. So what does having the #2 pick have to do with their desire to trade down?
Quote:I could see them going Matthews early. They've had such instability at that position. Jake Long just blew out his knee and can't seem to stay healthy. Saffold is a free agent and holdover from the previous regime.
Jake Long's ACL has nothing to do with their chances of picking a left tackle at #2. Sam Bradford tore his ACL, but they are not looking for a quarterback. That said, if the Rams need to improve their offensive line, I can see them picking Matthews.
I think the Texans go QB. They are hurting at that position and the Schaub era is for sure over! The only way they don't go QB is if they get one in FA. St. Louis is a wild card. They have a lot to fix just as the Jaguars do. They could go OL so Matthews looks like the smart choice. But they could easily trade down the # 2 pick to the Browns, Falcons or even Da Raiders. So they are a true Wild Card at # 2. The Jags need to go QB/DL/LB. QB would be my absolute 1st need in my opinion. So Teddy would be my choice if he is there! This should be an interesting off season and FA. I hope the Jags give MJD a new contract. He is a leader we need!
GO JAGS!!
Quote:Meaning splitting vs the Texans, right?
Yeah. but. winning. culture. developed. 
So now you've flip-flopped back again? What else is new?
A month ago you were OK with the Jaguars winning.
The month before that you weren't OK with it.
Why am I not susprised?
Quote:They were #2 in 2012 and traded down twice. So what does having the #2 pick have to do with their desire to trade down?
If they feel Jake Matthews is an elite prospect, I have a hard time believing they'd trade that pick -- unless they get a pretty sweet deal in return.
I wouldn't rule out the Rams taking Clowney at 2 and the best available LT at 13. Yeah, I realize they have Quinn and Long, but you can never have enough pass rushers.
Quote:If they feel Jake Matthews is an elite prospect, I have a hard time believing they'd trade that pick -- unless they get a pretty sweet deal in return.
I wouldn't rule out the Rams taking Clowney at 2 and the best available LT at 13. Yeah, I realize they have Quinn and Long, but you can never have enough pass rushers.
True but they committed pretty big to Bradford in the offseason, they now need to help him succeed and #1 is strengthening the Oline.
The BAP (yes I honestly think Matthews is just as good as Clowney) pick AND the need pick suggest to us that Rams take Matthews.
Quote:If they feel Jake Matthews is an elite prospect, I have a hard time believing they'd trade that pick -- unless they get a pretty sweet deal in return.
I wouldn't rule out the Rams taking Clowney at 2 and the best available LT at 13. Yeah, I realize they have Quinn and Long, but you can never have enough pass rushers.
Why would they want to miss out on an elite offensive tackle knowing he will be gone before they pick again? The Falcons certainly will snatch up Matthews if the Rams don't.
Quote:They were #2 in 2012 and traded down twice. So what does having the #2 pick have to do with their desire to trade down?
They traded down the first time because the skins game them unbelievable value at #2. RG3 was the hot pick and the rams already have 1st overall pick bradford on their roster
Quote:McCarron has been scorching SEC defenses. What is your point?
Stop it with the SEC crap. Playing in that conference has absolutely nothing to do with how good you will be in the NFL.
AJ Mccarron
SEASON
CMP
ATT
YDS
CMP%
YPA
LNG
TD
INT
SACK
RAT
RAW QBR
ADJ QBR
2013
207
306
2676
67.6
8.75
99
26
5
10
165.9
79.7
83.6
Rushing : 21 yards rushing 24 attempts 0 TD's
Johnny Manziel
SEASON
CMP
ATT
YDS
CMP%
YPA
LNG
TD
INT
SACK
RAT
RAW QBR
ADJ QBR
2013
270
391
3732
69.1
9.55
95
33
13
19
170.4
78.9
84.5
Rushing : 686 yards rushing 133 attempts 8 TD's
Yeah... they're totally similar. You're just hating because you're a fan of the sorry Buckeyes. GO TOSU!!!
Quote:They traded down the first time because the skins game them unbelievable value at #2. RG3 was the hot pick and the Rams already have 1st overall pick Bradford on their roster.
Did you ever think maybe the Redskins needed to give up too much to talk the Rams into trading down? I don't know if that is true, but normally two picks are enough to trade up only four spots.
So how do you explain the second trade down?
Quote:AJ McCarron
SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT RAW QBR ADJ QBR 2013 207 306 2676 67.6 8.75 99 26 5 10 165.9 79.7 83.6
Rushing : 21 yards rushing 24 attempts 0 TDs
Johnny Manziel
CAREER STATS SEASON CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT RAW QBR ADJ QBR 2013 270 391 3732 69.1 9.55 95 33 13 19 170.4 78.9 84.5
Rushing : 686 yards rushing 133 attempts 8 TDs
Yeah... they're totally similar. You're just hating because you're a fan of the sorry Buckeyes. GO TOSU!!!
The way you wrote that is unreadable. And no, I am
not hating because I am a Buckeyes fan.
When teams evaluate quarterbacks, they never worry about how good or bad the opponents are or let their fanhood give them biased views of certain players. They just look at everything objectively to see what the quarterback does, how he does it, etc. to identify what he is good and bad at. Statistics mean nothing to them.
Quote:The way you wrote that is unreadable. And no, I am not hating because I am a Buckeyes fan.
When teams evaluate quarterbacks, they never worry about how good or bad the opponents are or let their fanhood give them biased views of certain players. They just look at everything objectively to see what the quarterback does, how he does it, etc. to identify what he is good and bad at. Statistics mean nothing to them.
That's why I edited the post. Oh, and they may not "evaluate" that way, but you sure do hear everyone and their mother talking about "So and so looks good, but let's be honest, he plays cupcake teams."
Quote:The way you wrote that is unreadable. And no, I am not hating because I am a Buckeyes fan.
When teams evaluate quarterbacks, they never worry about how good or bad the opponents are or let their fanhood give them biased views of certain players. They just look at everything objectively to see what the quarterback does, how he does it, etc. to identify what he is good and bad at. Statistics mean nothing to them.
Also, highly unlikely is not a double negative. Just an FYI.
Quote:Did you ever think maybe the Redskins needed to give up too much to talk the Rams into trading down? I don't know if that is true, but normally two picks are enough to trade up only four spots.
So how do you explain the second trade down?
Second trade down is easy to explain
1. They got great value from the trade down
2. A rookie they were eyeing would most likely be there in their trade slot
Quote:I think the Texans go QB.
I hope they do, which means they're reaching mightily and leaving the best players on the board.
Quote:Learned what lesson from trading up? With Julio = NFC #1 seed. Without Julio = #6 overall pick. It is obvious they made the right decision to trade up for him.
It is not Julio Jones that is the problem with the trade up. He is a great player, no doubt about it.
The fact that they gave up 5 picks in the top 120 picks in the that draft, and the next one is where the problem is.
That is all I meant by "lesson learned."
Quote:Also, highly unlikely is not a double negative. Just an FYI.
I mean using "unlikely" and "can't" in the same sentence is a double negative.
Quote:It is not Julio Jones that is the problem with the trade up. He is a great player, no doubt about it.
The fact that they gave up 5 picks in the top 120 picks in the that draft, and the next one is where the problem is.
That is all I meant by "lesson learned."
Do you think the Browns would have settled for less to drop to #27?
Quote:Do you think the Browns would have settled for less to drop to #27?
No clue. Prob not. Would you?