(01-17-2020, 10:24 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-17-2020, 10:15 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]So no answer to the New England game? hahahahahahahahahaa
Paying 20+ millions per year for a guy who had 8 sacks in a season (most of them came vs crappy teams? is so smart. You truly deserve next season, enjoy it 
Oh, you've been beaten down and proven wrong on your idiotic claim of "disappears in big games" so you have shifted to "he disappeared in this one game vs the patriots."
LOL
Pretty pathetic attempt there, pal.
Have fun moving those goalposts all over the planet!
(01-17-2020, 01:13 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]Nope. That's why I don't get the Yan and Allen play the same position nonsense. Yeah, we would have Allen if Yan left, but I rather have Yan AND Allen.
Oh OK, understood, I just always dismiss that "but we have Allen" take as utter nonsense from people that don't understand an NFL defense. You need both, unequivocally.
It's a top 3 dumb take but I'm not shocked some people are taking it.
(01-17-2020, 10:24 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-17-2020, 10:15 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]So no answer to the New England game? hahahahahahahahahaa
Paying 20+ millions per year for a guy who had 8 sacks in a season (most of them came vs crappy teams? is so smart. You truly deserve next season, enjoy it
Oh, you've been beaten down and proven wrong on your idiotic claim of "disappears in big games" so you have shifted to "he disappeared in this one game vs the patriots."
LOL
Pretty pathetic attempt there, pal.
Have fun moving those goalposts all over the planet!
(01-17-2020, 01:13 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]Nope. That's why I don't get the Yan and Allen play the same position nonsense. Yeah, we would have Allen if Yan left, but I rather have Yan AND Allen.
Oh OK, understood, I just always dismiss that "but we have Allen" take as utter nonsense from people that don't understand an NFL defense. You need both, unequivocally.
Apparently they forgot about all those years of dealing with Freeney and Mathis, lol.
(01-17-2020, 11:09 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ] (01-17-2020, 10:24 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]
Oh OK, understood, I just always dismiss that "but we have Allen" take as utter nonsense from people that don't understand an NFL defense. You need both, unequivocally.
Apparently they forgot about all those years of dealing with Freeney and Mathis, lol.
...and the 13 years of no-pass-rush-hell we endured in between Brackens and Ngakoue.
(01-17-2020, 10:24 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ] (01-17-2020, 10:15 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]So no answer to the New England game? hahahahahahahahahaa
Paying 20+ millions per year for a guy who had 8 sacks in a season (most of them came vs crappy teams? is so smart. You truly deserve next season, enjoy it
Oh, you've been beaten down and proven wrong on your idiotic claim of "disappears in big games" so you have shifted to "he disappeared in this one game vs the patriots." You gave one example hahaha, what exactly did he do this season vs the best teams that had their starters? nothing, did nothing vs Buffalo, did nothing vs New England
LOL
Pretty pathetic attempt there, pal.
Have fun moving those goalposts all over the planet!
(01-17-2020, 01:13 AM)Dimson Wrote: [ -> ]Nope. That's why I don't get the Yan and Allen play the same position nonsense. Yeah, we would have Allen if Yan left, but I rather have Yan AND Allen.
Oh OK, understood, I just always dismiss that "but we have Allen" take as utter nonsense from people that don't understand an NFL defense. You need both, unequivocally.
None of you have proved me wrong, sorry, if you wanna believe it so be it I don't really care.
Ngakoue is far from elite and Fowler is better, facts are facts.
BTW keep on being a lame [BLEEP] moderator, you can't help it, it's really funny.
(01-17-2020, 11:44 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (01-17-2020, 10:24 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, you've been beaten down and proven wrong on your idiotic claim of "disappears in big games" so you have shifted to "he disappeared in this one game vs the patriots." You gave one example hahaha, what exactly did he do this season vs the best teams that had their starters? nothing, did nothing vs Buffalo, did nothing vs New England
LOL
Pretty pathetic attempt there, pal.
Have fun moving those goalposts all over the planet!
Oh OK, understood, I just always dismiss that "but we have Allen" take as utter nonsense from people that don't understand an NFL defense. You need both, unequivocally.
None of you have proved me wrong, sorry, if you wanna believe it so be it I don't really care.
Ngakoue is far from elite and Fowler is better, facts are facts.
BTW keep on being a lame [BLEEP] moderator, you can't help it, it's really funny.
What's actually funny is that everyone can see how wrong you are but you. Now THAT'S funny.
(01-17-2020, 11:44 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (01-17-2020, 10:24 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: [ -> ]Oh, you've been beaten down and proven wrong on your idiotic claim of "disappears in big games" so you have shifted to "he disappeared in this one game vs the patriots." You gave one example hahaha, what exactly did he do this season vs the best teams that had their starters? nothing, did nothing vs Buffalo, did nothing vs New England
LOL
Pretty pathetic attempt there, pal.
Have fun moving those goalposts all over the planet!
Oh OK, understood, I just always dismiss that "but we have Allen" take as utter nonsense from people that don't understand an NFL defense. You need both, unequivocally.
None of you have proved me wrong, sorry, if you wanna believe it so be it I don't really care.
Ngakoue is far from elite and Fowler is better, facts are facts.
BTW keep on being a lame [BLEEP] moderator, you can't help it, it's really funny.
He's insulting moderators. Ban?
(01-17-2020, 12:17 PM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ] (01-17-2020, 11:44 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]None of you have proved me wrong, sorry, if you wanna believe it so be it I don't really care.
Ngakoue is far from elite and Fowler is better, facts are facts.
BTW keep on being a lame [BLEEP] moderator, you can't help it, it's really funny.
What's actually funny is that everyone can see how wrong you are but you. Now THAT'S funny.
Keep trying, maybe one day old man.
(01-17-2020, 01:16 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: [ -> ] (01-17-2020, 11:44 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]None of you have proved me wrong, sorry, if you wanna believe it so be it I don't really care.
Ngakoue is far from elite and Fowler is better, facts are facts.
BTW keep on being a lame [BLEEP] moderator, you can't help it, it's really funny.
He's insulting moderators. Ban?
Because that's how it works around here lol.
Mods can do whatever they want, you say something you get banned lol
(01-17-2020, 03:45 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (01-17-2020, 12:17 PM)Rico Wrote: [ -> ]What's actually funny is that everyone can see how wrong you are but you. Now THAT'S funny.
Keep trying, maybe one day old man.
Oooo...what a zinger. Did you think that up all by yourself? Must have really taxed the few working brain cells that you have.
@I wonder how it feels to be the smartest one in the room@
I mean... obviously we're all wrong and that kid knows best
Fowler better than Yan is laughable.
(01-17-2020, 04:20 PM)Kane Wrote: [ -> ]@I wonder how it feels to be the smartest one in the room@
I mean... obviously we're all wrong and that kid knows best
Fowler better than Yan is laughable.
Oh I know someone else who believes this besides Raven....
From Jaguars.com today:
Ngakoue is scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent on March 18. Caldwell on Tuesday reiterated what he said immediately following the season – that the team "would love to have him back." Caldwell said the next step is to communicate with Ngakoue and his representation, and that Owner Shad Khan and Tony Khan likely will be involved in the process.
"It's a deal that we feel like could take a little bit of time but should be done hopefully relatively easily," Caldwell said.
He tweeted out "Free." today..... Feel free to speculate.
(01-22-2020, 11:11 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]He tweeted out "Free." today..... Feel free to speculate.
My speculation is that he is a 24 year old kid addicted to social media trying his hardest to gain the attention he needs from fans of other teams begging him to join their team, as if it is his choice.
(01-22-2020, 01:14 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2020, 11:11 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: [ -> ]He tweeted out "Free." today..... Feel free to speculate.
My speculation is that he is a 24 year old kid addicted to social media trying his hardest to gain the attention he needs from fans of other teams begging him to join their team, as if it is his choice.
But but but he is a true professional! best teammate ever!!!
(01-22-2020, 01:26 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2020, 01:14 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]My speculation is that he is a 24 year old kid addicted to social media trying his hardest to gain the attention he needs from fans of other teams begging him to join their team, as if it is his choice.
But but but he is a true professional! best teammate ever!!!
Stroud and Raven. What a great side to be on in conversations!
(01-22-2020, 01:26 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2020, 01:14 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]My speculation is that he is a 24 year old kid addicted to social media trying his hardest to gain the attention he needs from fans of other teams begging him to join their team, as if it is his choice.
But but but he is a true professional! best teammate ever!!!
You can be a professional and still object to your current circumstances. Nothing wrong with that
(01-22-2020, 02:51 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2020, 01:26 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]But but but he is a true professional! best teammate ever!!!
You can be a professional and still object to your current circumstances. Nothing wrong with that
Sure, but what he is doing on twitter is just... lol
(01-22-2020, 02:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2020, 02:51 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: [ -> ]You can be a professional and still object to your current circumstances. Nothing wrong with that
Sure, but what he is doing on twitter is just... lol
I've defended Fowler before and have a 50/50 view on your debate but Yann hasnt gotten arrested or gone viral for TMZ to air. He isnt a true professional as much as some, but he isnt Dante. Now the debate about Yann being a stand up professional, which was said by some to bash Fowler, thats where things get funny and interesting.
(01-22-2020, 02:58 PM)JagsFansince1995 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-22-2020, 02:52 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: [ -> ]Sure, but what he is doing on twitter is just... lol
I've defended Fowler before and have a 50/50 view on your debate but Yann hasnt gotten arrested or gone viral for TMZ to air. He isnt a true professional as much as some, but he isnt Dante. Now the debate about Yann being a stand up professional, which was said by some to bash Fowler, thats where things get funny and interesting.
True.
Fowler hasn't had any issues lately, but sure, he was immature his first few years.