(08-16-2023, 02:17 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]FSG and Winger still can't make up their minds between the Jan 6 insurgents being (a) the unfortunate dupes of an FBI false flag operation or (b) the last real American heroes. Either way they testify against themselves. If (a), Trump was obviously a part of the operation to dupe them, he called for them to be there, and if (b) why weren't FSG or Winger also in DC that day?
They don't believe what they are saying.
They don't take themselves or their ideas seriously.
They just want to see the world burn, like Joker in the dark knight.
A) We know that the feds incited the riot that resulted from the peaceful protest of the stolen election.
B) I have no interest in trying to save this dying leviathan as I recognize it's futile to do so. The ruling class won the war and so we're left with one alternative at this point. I just want it to hurry up and die so we can move the next version of America.
I don't care to see the world burn; that doesn't mean that I don't see it coming there Captain Try It.
(08-16-2023, 10:33 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]So, assuming Trump was "fighting the powers that be" in his first term, what did he accomplish in that regard?
Do you not see everything happening to the country now? All the people openly attacking him? The full swamp on both sides of the uniparty has been exposed. It's so bad that even normal people see it.
The swamp has controls in place to stop the swamp from losing control. There wasn't much Trump could do because all his initial picks were not going to be confirmed. Then the RINOs all joined Trump and were stopping him from within.
All of these people have exposed themselves and the only way to stop them is to completely remove the swamp.
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(08-17-2023, 12:13 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-16-2023, 02:17 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]FSG and Winger still can't make up their minds between the Jan 6 insurgents being (a) the unfortunate dupes of an FBI false flag operation or (b) the last real American heroes. Either way they testify against themselves. If (a), Trump was obviously a part of the operation to dupe them, he called for them to be there, and if (b) why weren't FSG or Winger also in DC that day?
They don't believe what they are saying.
They don't take themselves or their ideas seriously.
They just want to see the world burn, like Joker in the dark knight.
A) We know that the feds incited the riot that resulted from the peaceful protest of the stolen election.
B) I have no interest in trying to save this dying leviathan as I recognize it's futile to do so. The ruling class won the war and so we're left with one alternative at this point. I just want it to hurry up and die so we can move the next version of America.
I don't care to see the world burn; that doesn't mean that I don't see it coming there Captain Try It.
That’s an unproven conspiracy theory. Repeating it over and over doesn’t give it any additional weight.
(08-17-2023, 07:08 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (08-17-2023, 05:02 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]That’s an unproven conspiracy theory. Repeating it over and over doesn’t give it any additional weight.
This is true, but…
https://youtu.be/IHbu6YQ7BOU
You could ask how many undercover agents they have in everglades and the answer would be the same. Undercover operations are not disclosed.
(08-17-2023, 05:02 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (08-17-2023, 12:13 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]A) We know that the feds incited the riot that resulted from the peaceful protest of the stolen election.
B) I have no interest in trying to save this dying leviathan as I recognize it's futile to do so. The ruling class won the war and so we're left with one alternative at this point. I just want it to hurry up and die so we can move the next version of America.
I don't care to see the world burn; that doesn't mean that I don't see it coming there Captain Try It.
That’s an unproven conspiracy theory. Repeating it over and over doesn’t give it any additional weight.
Lol, "Sir, I can't answer that."
(08-17-2023, 07:45 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-17-2023, 05:02 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]That’s an unproven conspiracy theory. Repeating it over and over doesn’t give it any additional weight.
Lol, "Sir, I can't answer that."
The irony of it all is if the roles were reversed we would be self righteously graced with quotes from Martin Niemöller.
(08-17-2023, 07:08 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (08-17-2023, 05:02 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]That’s an unproven conspiracy theory. Repeating it over and over doesn’t give it any additional weight.
This is true, but…
https://youtu.be/IHbu6YQ7BOU
FBI and CIA evasions are great fodder for late night conspiracy theory podcasts. The FBI has a policy of not confirming or denying the identity of their CIs or witnesses. Epps never entered the capitol which is likely why he wasn't charged with anything. He probably wasn't a CI, although he may have been one of the unnamed co-conspirators who gave information to the FBI after the fact about the people involved. That's probably why Sanborn initially declined to answer Cruz about Epps. When pressed though she did eventually admit she was unaware of people linked to the FBI doing anything to aggravate the situation on Jan. 6.
"Did federal agents or those in service of federal agents actively encourage violent and criminal conduct on Jan. 6th?" - Cruz
"Not to my knowledge, sir." - Sanborn
(08-17-2023, 02:35 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ] (08-17-2023, 07:42 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]You could ask how many undercover agents they have in everglades and the answer would be the same. Undercover operations are not disclosed.
Not true.
You dare contradict the Knower of All Things?!?!
(08-17-2023, 02:44 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-17-2023, 02:35 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]Not true.
You dare contradict the Knower of All Things?!?!
He (or perhaps she) knows about as much as the "raisins" coming out of my goat's [BLEEP].
Regarding the State of Georgia indictment of Trump and his coconspirators:
Looks like Mark Meadows thickened the plot for this case according to page 45 of the indictment -
Quote:“On or about the 27th day of December 2020, Mark Meadows sent a text message to Office of the Georgia Secretary of State Chief Investigator Frances Watson that stated in part, ‘Is there a way to speed up Fulton county’s signature verification in order to have results before January 6 if the Trump campaign assists financially?”
That should be fun to defend.
Offering up funds from the losing campaign to "count mail in ballots faster."
(specifically votes from a county with a high density of black voters where Meadows knew 1000% that mail in ballots would be a landslide count for Biden - Remember, the Trump campaign spent millions telling (lying to) voters NOT to vote by mail because it was subject to fraud. A lie that has been debunked over and over and over again)
(08-17-2023, 02:44 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-17-2023, 02:35 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: [ -> ]Not true.
You dare contradict the Knower of All Things?!?!
He'll write a strongly worded message to Wiki..
Here is the police video of Ruby Freeman talking about the fraud and worried they sent someone to kill her. It's from Cobb County and provided from records request. Trump put one of the videos on truth and there is a subtitled version also.
https://rumble.com/v22swfq-ruby-freeman-...ty-ga.html
OMG releasing fraudulent registration investigation next week, it's a crime in GA to provide any fake data on form.
Trump releasing GA report next week, although it's probably data that anyone paying attention already knows.
GA may have screwed up with this. All the evidence can be presented in court and even evidence from the other swing states that the DA stupidly mentioned even though she has no jurisdiction there.
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I see the members of the grand jury who voted to indict have been getting harassed and threatened. I wonder how the Trump supporters on our forum feel about that.
(08-18-2023, 09:07 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]I see the members of the grand jury who voted to indict have been getting harassed and threatened. I wonder how the Trump supporters on our forum feel about that.
I do not support that activity though, as I've said, it's quite plain to see the road we're on.
(08-18-2023, 09:11 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (08-18-2023, 09:07 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]I see the members of the grand jury who voted to indict have been getting harassed and threatened. I wonder how the Trump supporters on our forum feel about that.
I do not support that activity though, as I've said, it's quite plain to see the road we're on.
That’s good, I’d hope there’s not too many that support the threats but I’m not confident of it.
As far as the trial, I’m not so sure the results are preordained. I could see something getting settled through a plea bargain. Otherwise all any of the defendants would need is one juror with “reasonable doubt”.