(08-18-2023, 09:24 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ] (08-18-2023, 09:11 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I do not support that activity though, as I've said, it's quite plain to see the road we're on.
That’s good, I’d hope there’s not too many that support the threats but I’m not confident of it.
As far as the trial, I’m not so sure the results are preordained. I could see something getting settled through a plea bargain. Otherwise all any of the defendants would need is one juror with “reasonable doubt”.
It's almost certain that some of those indicted in GA will plea bargain and pay fines and do community service and testify against those who don't plea bargain.
It's completely certain that Trump will not plea bargain. He has never admitted fault or accepted blame in his life. Plus, any behavior he admits to in the GA case makes his federal case harder to defend.
I believe the leaking of a sealed indictment is grounds for dismissal. It appears to be malicious use of prosecution enough to bias any pool of jurors. That the person responsible for doing it hasn't already been publicly fired, especially in light of the uniquely high profile of this particular case, only contributes to the feeling that something ain't right.
(08-18-2023, 10:21 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I believe the leaking of a sealed indictment is grounds for dismissal. It appears to be malicious use of prosecution enough to bias any pool of jurors. That the person responsible for doing it hasn't already been publicly fired, especially in light of the uniquely high profile of this particular case, only contributes to the feeling that something ain't right.
Lol no. That's not how this works. The "leak" was only out for a few hours. If one of the grand jurors was holding out, and didn't sign, all of the grand jurors get to remain anonymous. Leak or not. It's only when they sign that their names are published. The leak could not have been a pressure tactic.
(08-18-2023, 10:21 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]I believe the leaking of a sealed indictment is grounds for dismissal. It appears to be malicious use of prosecution enough to bias any pool of jurors. That the person responsible for doing it hasn't already been publicly fired, especially in light of the uniquely high profile of this particular case, only contributes to the feeling that something ain't right.
Could be, I guess it would depend on the exact nature of the leak, who did it, and was it intentional. I doubt that it would lead to an outright dismissal although the lawyer could argue for a mistrial if it gets that far.
(08-18-2023, 01:15 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (08-18-2023, 12:57 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: [ -> ]https://twitter.com/RepAndyBiggsAZ/statu...xmJcA&s=19
Sometimes I wonder how some of these politicians managed to graduate high school. Trump wasn't indicted for questioning the validity of an election.
Most of them are highly intelligent people who passed law school without much difficulty. They wouldn't present these arguments in court. They know. They just don't believe they'll lose money or votes underestimating the intelligence of the average American. And certain politically engaged citizens such as WingerDinger are happy to prove them right.
(08-18-2023, 01:25 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-18-2023, 01:15 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Sometimes I wonder how some of these politicians managed to graduate high school. Trump wasn't indicted for questioning the validity of an election.
Most of them are highly intelligent people who passed law school without much difficulty. They wouldn't present these arguments in court. They know. They just don't believe they'll lose money or votes underestimating the intelligence of the average American. And certain politically engaged citizens such as WingerDinger are happy to prove them right.
Here.. Lem'me help ya..
Your mentally ill opinion goes here.
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(08-18-2023, 09:07 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]I see the members of the grand jury who voted to indict have been getting harassed and threatened. I wonder how the Trump supporters on our forum feel about that.
The exact same way I felt when the Supreme Court Justices were threatened and intimidated over Roe v Wade. It should be prosecuted. How about you?
(08-18-2023, 05:13 PM)copycat Wrote: [ -> ] (08-18-2023, 09:07 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]I see the members of the grand jury who voted to indict have been getting harassed and threatened. I wonder how the Trump supporters on our forum feel about that.
The exact same way I felt when the Supreme Court Justices were threatened and intimidated over Roe v Wade. It should be prosecuted. How about you?
The same and I’m glad you agree. Intimidation and harassment should have no place in our society regardless of our political positions.
(08-18-2023, 09:46 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-18-2023, 09:24 AM)MarleyJag Wrote: [ -> ]That’s good, I’d hope there’s not too many that support the threats but I’m not confident of it.
As far as the trial, I’m not so sure the results are preordained. I could see something getting settled through a plea bargain. Otherwise all any of the defendants would need is one juror with “reasonable doubt”.
It's almost certain that some of those indicted in GA will plea bargain and pay fines and do community service and testify against those who don't plea bargain.
It's completely certain that Trump will not plea bargain. He has never admitted fault or accepted blame in his life. Plus, any behavior he admits to in the GA case makes his federal case harder to defend.
The bolded part is certainly true and for that reason I expect the admission of guilty plea for anything more than a parking ticket to be a non-starter for Trump. I also can't envision this going to trial even remotely close to within the prosecutor's proposed timeline.
Trump isn't going to prison. The worst that's going to happen to him his home confinement or community service with a fine.
(08-20-2023, 07:45 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]Trump isn't going to prison. The worst that's going to happen to him his home confinement or community service with a fine.
The New York Trial may conclude before November 2024 but the other three probably will not. The new york trial has the least serious charges and may even get thrown out by the judge. That's the good news for Trump. If he manages to become President elect in 2024, any trial against him will be suspended.
The bad news for Trump is its very unlikely he gets elected in November 2024, his trials will continue and he is likely to end up on some form of probation or house arrest.
The bad news for Republicans is that all four trials will be ongoing and potentially creating headlines throughout the election cycle. This is one of the reasons he will lose and why Republicans would be fools to nominate him again.
(08-20-2023, 07:45 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]Trump isn't going to prison. The worst that's going to happen to him his home confinement or community service with a fine.
That's actually the worst thing that could happen to Melania.
Community service would be hysterical. I mean, what's he going to do, go down to Puerto Rico and pass out paper towels again?
(08-21-2023, 05:05 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (08-20-2023, 07:45 PM)Charlie Sheen Wrote: [ -> ]Trump isn't going to prison. The worst that's going to happen to him his home confinement or community service with a fine.
That's actually the worst thing that could happen to Melania.
Community service would be hysterical. I mean, what's he going to do, go down to Puerto Rico and pass out paper towels again?
Nobody's making Melania stay.
(08-21-2023, 05:27 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (08-21-2023, 05:05 PM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ]That's actually the worst thing that could happen to Melania.
Community service would be hysterical. I mean, what's he going to do, go down to Puerto Rico and pass out paper towels again?
Nobody's making Melania stay.
I'm sure there's a prenuptial agreement that factors into her decision.
In case anyone is actually following the federal case:
Jack smith has denied Trump's lawyers latest request for an extension to an April trial date.