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Quote:Ok dude go to any other state where they care about their team like Philly, NY, or Cleveland do you think "real fans" would be upset about this disgrace of a franchise? 8 wins in 3 years on Gus are you ok with that? I'm not a blind homer like 90% of people on this board who always see sunshine and rainbows. This team is historically bad and you're just ok with it huh? Ok I wont complain anymore when this team goes 4-12 again I'll be ok with it like you.


I don't think anyone will be pleased if the team goes 4-12. Stop with the strawmen.


Also, way to cite Cleveland, home of one of the model franchises of the NFL.
Quote:Ok dude go to any other state where they care about their team like Philly, NY, or Cleveland do you think "real fans" would be upset about this disgrace of a franchise? 8 wins in 3 years on Gus are you ok with that?  I'm not a blind homer like 90% of people on this board who always see sunshine and rainbows. This team is historically bad and you're just ok with it huh? Ok I wont complain anymore when this team goes 4-12 again I'll be ok with it like you. 
 

What does this have to do with you trolling this message board?
Quote:I don't think anyone will be pleased if the team goes 4-12. Stop with the strawmen.


Also, way to cite Cleveland, home of one of the model franchises of the NFL.
First off why don't you check Cleveland's history when the had Otto Graham and Jim Brown. Also When they had Bernie Kosar they won more than we did but you wouldn't know that Grasshopper. 
Quote:First off why don't you check Cleveland's history when the had Otto Graham and Jim Brown. Also When they had Bernie Kosar they won more than we did but you wouldn't know that Grasshopper. 
 

With Kosar, the Browns pretty much did exactly what the Jaguars did when Brunell was here.
Quote:What does this have to do with you trolling this message board?
 

How am I trolling by calling it how I see it fine. You guys did the same thing to Mad Dog. It's ok I wont "troll" anymore someone else will do it for me
Quote:How am I trolling by calling it how I see it fine. You guys did the same thing to Mad Dog. It's ok I wont "troll" anymore someone else will do it for me
 

He's the biggest troll this message board has had. And your stated goal is to replace him, right?
Quote:Ok dude go to any other state where they care about their team like Philly, NY, or Cleveland do you think "real fans" would be upset about this disgrace of a franchise? 8 wins in 3 years on Gus are you ok with that?  I'm not a blind homer like 90% of people on this board who always see sunshine and rainbows. This team is historically bad and you're just ok with it huh? Ok I wont complain anymore when this team goes 4-12 again I'll be ok with it like you. 
I guess I am just less emotional than most people but to me if I was getting as riled up about a team playing a sport then I would stop following that team. To me the point is to enjoy it and watch a team grow over time and follow the players through their careers. Also I never said I was okay with how the team is playing or anything to that matter. The point is that people severely over-exaggerate the good and bad with the team and then there's someone like you who only comes on here to bash the team. I'm just saying that if this is your mindset just save yourself the trouble and find something you enjoy in life that would make you so upset. 

Quote:With Kosar, the Browns pretty much did exactly what the Jaguars did when Brunell was here.
Well, you're now you're just going to confuse the old sage.

 

Quote:How am I trolling by calling it how I see it fine. You guys did the same thing to Mad Dog. It's ok I wont "troll" anymore someone else will do it for me
We're going to hold you to that.
Quote:I guess I am just less emotional than most people but to me if I was getting as riled up about a team playing a sport then I would stop following that team. To me the point is to enjoy it and watch a team grow over time and follow the players through their careers. Also I never said I was okay with how the team is playing or anything to that matter. The point is that people severely over-exaggerate the good and bad with the team and then there's someone like you who only comes on here to bash the team. I'm just saying that if this is your mindset just save yourself the trouble and find something you enjoy in life that would make you so upset. 
You don't get it.  In his world, if you're not running around with pitchforks and torches acting like some jilted little school girl who has always gotten her way, you're telling him that you're okay with how the team played in games like we endured yesterday.

 

There's no rational logic involved.  It's simply a reality that some people aren't smart enough to do anything beyond operating off of base instincts and emotion.  Jagantius falls into that category. 
Is JaguarMVP Brooklyn Jag?
I understand frustrations and am upset myself. But what I don't want is for Bortles to feel like he has lost the fanbase. I don't want him to feel like the city is not behind him. I know that athletes should realize that criticisms comes with the territory, but I think that's different then thinking the fanbase has given up on you. That's hard for a young quarterback.


That is all
Quote:Definition of Fan


Fan: an apparatus with rotating blades that creates a current of air for cooling or ventilation.


I see nothing wrong with this and he is indeed, a fan.


Smile you my friend deserve a thumbs up.
Quote: We drafted him to be elite, not just a so so qb. 
 

 

The idea is he'll eventually be elite, but Caldwell even warned us that like all the qbs in the draft he's a bit of a project qb and not to expect immediate results. I don't care to rehash last year's stats with Bortles because he took considerable time this offseason to adjust his mechanics and throwing motion, and if you're honest with yourself you know they have improved. At times he'll regress a tad, but it's a matter of working into muscle memory. He's a far better qb than he was last year, and you have to exceedingly ignorant to not realize as much. The fact is, despite his lone INT against the Patriots and only putting 17 points, Blake had a far better game than several qbs this Sunday. It's not like he's off to a horrible start this year, although the team as a whole can certainly play better. Anyone calling Blake a bust already or suggesting he's at all anything like Blaine is basically a flaming ignoramus in my eyes.


Quote:The idea is he'll eventually be elite, but Caldwell even warned us that like all the qbs in the draft he's a bit of a project qb and not to expect immediate results. I don't care to rehash last year's stats with Bortles because he took considerable time this offseason to adjust his mechanics and throwing motion, and if you're honest with yourself you know they have improved. At times he'll regress a tad, but it's a matter of working into muscle memory. He's a far better qb than he was last year, and you have to exceedingly ignorant to not realize as much. The fact is, despite his lone INT against the Patriots and only putting 17 points, Blake had a far better game than several qbs this Sunday. It's not like he's off to a horrible start this year, although the team as a whole can certainly play better. Anyone calling Blake a bust already or suggesting he's at all anything like Blaine is basically a flaming ignoramus in my eyes.
Knowing that Blake would take time to be an NFL QB and doing nothing to get a veteran besides keeping HENNE is my biggest issue with Caldwell.


Rookie coach, rookie receivers, rookie QB, rookie GM. A disaster has been created, and there's plenty of blame to go around....The 1st step in fixing it is to get a legitimate coach. He'll at least steer the ship away from the iceberg.
Among the 2nd year QBs he is ranked last with a 78.3 rating he's 2nd in total yards though, 5 tds, 3 ints, 7 sck, 53.8 % (tied for last in comp %).

Gus on Bortles performance vs Patriots: 

 

""On offense, sometimes we take the simple things and make them more difficult than what they need to be,” Bradley said, per the team's official website. “That’s where we’re at now offensively.” 

<p style="color:rgb(89,89,89);font-family:'Antenna Medium';font-size:16px;">Specifically, Bradley pointed to the second-year quarterback forcing the issue by trying getting the tight end involved, as opposed to reading what the defense was giving him.

<p style="color:rgb(89,89,89);font-family:'Antenna Medium';font-size:16px;">“The lessons I think he’s learning right now are to say, ‘Although we make an emphasis (to) try to get the tight ends involved and take pressure off the offense you’ve still got to follow through with the progression,’” Bradley said.

<p style="color:rgb(89,89,89);font-family:'Antenna Medium';font-size:16px;">“He needs not to make it as complicated as he wants to make it. Some of the reads, he’s just got to trust his progression.”

<p style="color:rgb(89,89,89);font-family:'Antenna Medium';font-size:16px;">Bortles took responsibility for the turnover after the game.

<p style="color:rgb(89,89,89);font-family:'Antenna Medium';font-size:16px;">“The last thing you can have in that situation is a turnover,” Bortles said. “Bad play, bad throw. I had Marcedes running down with a linebacker trailing him and I just missed him. It was a bad throw, and you really can’t have that.”

Until we get a quality coaching staff, we'll never really know how good or bad Bortles will be.  

Quote:Until we get a quality coaching staff, we'll never really know how good or bad Bortles will be.  
 

There is more truth in this satetement then some out there want to believe.

 

Blake also needs a couple of more pieces around him to help maximize his potential, whatever it might be.

 

Getting JT should help Bortles out, as long as the coaches can find the best ways to use him.

 

Just remember that the next game is game #17 for him, which is in effect the start of his second full season.
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Just remember that the next game is game #17 for him, which is in effect the start of his second full season.
 

That is true
14/18 179 YDS and a TD in the 1st half


SO over this guy. He sucks.


....morons
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