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Quote:Especially when the best MLB in the league leaves the game.... "lets not run the ball guys!"

 

Yeah. Kuechly gets hurt and our offense gets worse

Quote:I really don't understand it. Yeldon looked terrific.

 

 

I totally agree. I mean, even a kindengartner understands that when something is working you keep doing it.

Quote:I don't understand why for two years now we've seen a fantastic QB in preseason with Blake Bortles but then he falls flat during the regular season. Is it really that much different?

Yes, preseason is really that much different. I get a good "kick" every year watching a big number of fans buy into hype because of what they see in the preseason.


The defenses that are faced play only a few starters for a couple series,, with no exotic blitzing,, no real game planning for a specific opponent/player,, no intensity that's even close to a real game.


Remember when everybody was convinced how good the offense was after they played the Steelers in preseason? Lol. First of all, the Steelers defense absolutely sucks. On top of that, they were playing really vanilla with some 2nd stringers in there to start.


Preseason sucks.

LOL..An 11 page tirade about how much our QB sucks after one game.  What a bunch of kindergartners.

Quote:But according to the Great Caldwell he's better than Jameis and Marcus Yea good one Dave

Oh and we definitely didn't need Amari Cooper either

I'd definitely take him over Winston and Mariotta hasn't really done anything outside one game and I don't think he has BB upside.


And I'd still take fowler over Cooper.....just bad luck there.

Quote:I'd definitely take him over Winston and Mariotta hasn't really done anything outside one game and I don't think he has BB upside.


And I'd still take fowler over Cooper.....just bad luck there.

Mariota has shown more in one game than Bortles has in his career. Sorry. I wish it wasn't so, but it's the truth whether you like it or not.

Quote:I totally agree. I mean, even a kindengartner understands that when something is working you keep doing it.

 

It had to have been one of the dumbest things he has done so far in his career (making fun of his fans intelligence).

He should have simply said the game was his fault for throwing the INTs, not making the correct reads, etc.  (even if he truly felt that it indeed wasn't his fault he is the leader & should take responsibility).

 

If Peyton Manning had made those comments people would've laughed, because he is a proven great QB where as Blake is a proven failure at this point (despite his potential he averages 55 QB Rating on most occasions).


I think he's comments has more to do with his frustration of failing in his opening game than it does of anything else.  It really bothered me not because I was offended by the comments (I actually thought it was funny & bit accurate), but rather that it showed his lack of intelligence of making fun of the fan base after a poor performance.  Peyton wouldve never done that, in fact Peyton is fantastic when dealing with the media.

 

I still have faith in Blake to turn things around but he needs to have a near perfect game against Miami (regardless of the final outcome) to erase this comment from fans memory.

Quote:You gotta be kidding me. The line broke down a couple times but what I saw bortles do all game was the reason for that. He's scared. He over threw receivers at least 5 times. He's scared inaccurate and indecisive. He may well be just as bad as Blaine gabbert.

I was going to address your comment but it is so ridiculous I think I'll pass. 

Quote:Mariota has shown more in one game than Bortles has in his career. Sorry. I wish it wasn't so, but it's the truth whether you like it or not.

 

Ding, Ding, Ding we have a winner truth ain't it great

Quote:Mariota has shown more in one game than Bortles has in his career. Sorry. I wish it wasn't so, but it's the truth whether you like it or not.

Meh. Qbs like Mariotta have initial success and fall off a cliff. He had a good half of football against the worst team in the league. Not saying Blake is gonna become a hofamer but I'd take my chances with him over Mariotta

Quote:Meh. Qbs like Mariotta have initial success and fall off a cliff. He had a good half of football against the worst team in the league. Not saying Blake is gonna become a hofamer but I'd take my chances with him over Mariotta

 

Just want to ask what is it about Blake Bortles that you have so much confidence in? Last year he was statistically the worst QB in the league. What specifically does he do that's amazes you so much. If Marcus has such initial success how come our 2nd year QB can't have 1 game like MM did? 

Quote:Meh. Qbs like Mariotta have initial success and fall off a cliff. He had a good half of football against the worst team in the league. Not saying Blake is gonna become a hofamer but I'd take my chances with him over Mariotta

LOL ok. I'm not even talking about Mariota's scrambling. His release and decisiveness in the pocket is what we have been hoping to see from blake for a year now. Blake never looks decisive, unless you count the preseason against scrubs or in practice against the Jags (aka scrubs). If anything, Blake is only good when scrambling and defenses will figure him out before mariota. I'd trade Blake and our first (top 5 lock) for Mariota but tennesse would laugh and hang up.

Quote:LOL ok. I'm not even talking about Mariota's scrambling. His release and decisiveness in the pocket is what we have been hoping to see from blake for a year now. Blake never looks decisive, unless you count the preseason against scrubs or in practice against the Jags (aka scrubs). If anything, Blake is only good when scrambling and defenses will figure him out before mariota. I'd trade Blake and our first (top 5 lock) for Mariota but tennesse would laugh and hang up.

 

Jerrad their is no point in talking because remember these were the same posters that though Blaine was going to be a franchise QB after the first 2 games of his sophomore year. People cannot see whats in front of them, I've never seen more excuses for a 2nd year QB in my life. Blake is not better than Geno Smith but can't tell Jag Fans that

Quote:Jerrad their is no point in talking because remember these were the same posters that though Blaine was going to be a franchise QB after the first 2 games of his sophomore year. People cannot see whats in front of them, I've never seen more excuses for a 2nd year QB in my life. Blake is not better than Geno Smith but can't tell Jag Fans that

No point in talking yet you keep doing it

Quote:Just want to ask what is it about Blake Bortles that you have so much confidence in? Last year he was statistically the worst QB in the league. What specifically does he do that's amazes you so much. If Marcus has such initial success how come our 2nd year QB can't have 1 game like MM did?

Well it's only been one game into his second year campaign so it's not like he's had a lot of chances to show his extra experience. Like I said I never said BB is a sure thing but I see basically every tool you can have physically and mentally and just needs to put it together. Mariotta I just see and athlete who can execute some throws but is limited.

Quote:Well it's only been one game into his second year campaign so it's not like he's had a lot of chances to show his extra experience. Like I said I never said BB is a sure thing but I see basically every tool you can have physically and mentally and just needs to put it together. Mariotta I just see and athlete who can execute some throws but is limited.

In what ways is Mariota "limited"? He's a freak athlete with great mechanics who has an advanced understanding of defenses at this stage in his career. His floor is high and upside is through the roof

Quote:Meh. Qbs like Mariotta have initial success and fall off a cliff. He had a good half of football against the worst team in the league. Not saying Blake is gonna become a hofamer but I'd take my chances with him over Mariotta

I know one thing Mariota had a fantastic week 1 game of his career.  He knew that the media was going to spotlight this game as the rookie 1 & 2 on the leagues two worst teams last year go head to head as Winston knew as well.  One game out and played a perfect game (158 QB rating) and the other failed (simple fact).  Does that mean that Mariota is better than Peyton & Tom Brady (no)!  It just means he had the best rookie game of the week, but he could and most likely will struggle at times as a rookie.  That being said it is also fair to say that Bortles never had a game like that last year.

Quote:Well it's only been one game into his second year campaign so it's not like he's had a lot of chances to show his extra experience. Like I said I never said BB is a sure thing but I see basically every tool you can have physically and mentally and just needs to put it together. Mariotta I just see and athlete who can execute some throws but is limited.

Blake does have some nice traits and I do like the guy. He can be a top 10-15 QB with the right coaching (not buffoon Gus). But my goodness this guy needs to quit throwing TDs to the other team before we can take him seriously. 11 TDs to the Jags and 5 TDs to opposing defenses. But to be fair, defensive players on other teams are much more skilled and better catchers than our scrub WRs.

Quote:I know one thing Mariota had a fantastic week 1 game of his career. He knew that the media was going to spotlight this game as the rookie 1 & 2 on the leagues two worst teams last year go head to head as Winston knew as well. One game out and played a perfect game (158 QB rating) and the other failed (simple fact). Does that mean that Mariota is better than Peyton & Tom Brady (no)! It just means he had the best rookie game of the week, but he could and most likely will struggle at times as a rookie. That being said it is also fair to say that Bortles never had a game like that last year.

He was incredibly impressive, the Bucs aren't good but threw a bunch of different coverages and blitzes at him, he burnt them almost every time, the kid seems to process information fast which allows him to make quick decisions. Their offensive coordinator said Mariota is the smartest player he's been around.

How sad...a thread of "Jags" fans worshipping the Tacks QB....we're not worthy, we're not worthy