Quote:I think both Carroll and Belichick needed some more time elsewhere before they would have been any good. Same with Coughlin, I doubt he'd have made it to the Superbowl had he remained with the Jags.
That's my point. Even some of the greatest coaches had rough starts to their carrers, especially ones walking into huge rebuilding projects. Every great coach also went through their own growing pains while learning on the job. It happens. Almost no one walks into a new job and performs flawlessly at every moment. Gus and Co. will be back next year and if the team is still losing game after game by large margins I imagine Khan will make the right move.
Quote:I've been a Gus fan all along but you look at what Jeff Fisher has done in St. Louis and wonder if we couldn't be getting more out of these guys.
Jeff Fisher is a good head coach, but the ST Louis Rams have one of the more talented rosters (especially on defense) in football, if/when that team gets a QB lookout.
Quote:Jeff Fisher is a good head coach, but the ST Louis Rams have one of the more talented rosters (especially on defense) in football, if/when that team gets a QB lookout.
If Bradford had actually panned out to be worthy of the #1 pick, that team would be the class of a stacked NFC West.
Quote:Jeff Fisher is a good head coach, but the ST Louis Rams have one of the more talented rosters (especially on defense) in football, if/when that team gets a QB lookout.
Jeff Fisher is a mediocre coach at best. In his 20 years as a head coach he has a total of 6 winning seasons. His .529 winning % is not good enough for that troll to be on our sideline. If we're replacing Gus with someone, at least make it someone better than Fisher.
Quote:That's my point. Even some of the greatest coaches had rough starts to their carrers, especially ones walking into huge rebuilding projects. Every great coach also went through their own growing pains while learning on the job. It happens. Almost no one walks into a new job and performs flawlessly at every moment. Gus and Co. will be back next year and if the team is still losing game after game by large margins I imagine Khan will make the right move.
Most logical people will agree that 3 years is enough to see tangible evidence of improvement. Not 2 years, not 5 years. The plan was to build a foundation thru the draft. The foundation is in place along with the future at QB. Now we need to let our rookies build off this experience, continue to add depth, solidify a handful of positions with a veteran presence, and potentially add one or two FA playmakers. Next year will be the time to either run Gus and co. out of town or to shower them with well deserving praise.
Quote:Jeff Fisher is a mediocre coach at best. In his 20 years as a head coach he has a total of 6 winning seasons. His .529 winning % is not good enough for that troll to be on our sideline. If we're replacing Gus with someone, at least make it someone better than Fisher.
I would take Fisher in a heartbeat. He can outcoach most other coaches and has. Give him the right talent and he would win a Super Bowl!
Quote:I would take Fisher in a heartbeat. He can outcoach most other coaches and has. Give him the right talent and he would win a Super Bowl!
Something tells me he would come up a Titan yard short of winning the Superbowl.
Quote:Something tells me he would come up a Titan yard short of winning the Superbowl.
Being in the Super Bowl must be nice....
Quote:I would take Fisher in a heartbeat. He can outcoach most other coaches and has. Give him the right talent and he would win a Super Bowl!
Yeah, talent makes all the difference. When he doesn't have it he was just mediocre.
Quote:Being in the Super Bowl must be nice....
Sure would be. Unfortunely only 2 teams out of 32 get to have that nice feeling every year. The odds are always stacked against you every season.
If we look back on mistakes one would say the team shouldnt have given up on Coughlin!
Should the team have given up on JDR (he wasnt really that bad of a HC)?
The owner never shouldve hired Mularkey (hard to watch that year)
but Gus's record doesnt truly reflect how he has coached during his tenure. One could say he was disgraced and blown out of too many games combined with his weak winning record & demand for his termination.
They what bring in another HC that will fail after revamping the team towards players he wants for two years?
I get it the HC is the fall guy, and he truly determines the win or losses on a team by himself. In fact he even suits up and tackles guys on defense only to throw the ball to himself on Offense for the touchdown?
No... it doesnt happen that way.
I understand why Jaguar fans dont want to give Gus any more chances, but at least watch him coach the end of this season before making a hundred new threads around the same agenda of firing Gus.
First off Khan isnt going to do it, so your wasting your time... 2nd it adds to the annoying factor after watching a hard fought game fall apart only to see fans blaming the HC.
Quote:Yes, and Gus will almost certainly need to move on and regroup before he can make it as an NFL head coach. Considering how well he did in the Senior Bowl, a college HC position might be his best next move, ala Pete Carroll.
Waiting another season is just delaying the inevitable.
You may very well be right about Gus not being the guy. But the thing is firing a coach 2 years into a rebuild is bad optics. When other coaching talent sees that they know right away they are not going to have much support from ownership. I'm not sure that's a good message to be sending. I mean he will be able to fill the vacancy, but what talent is going come under those conditions.
Quote:You may very well be right about Gus not being the guy. But the thing is firing a coach 2 years into a rebuild is bad optics. When other coaching talent sees that they know right away they are not going to have much support from ownership. I'm not sure that's a good message to be sending. I mean he will be able to fill the vacancy, but what talent is going come under those conditions.
By this logic we should have never fired Mularkey.
Quote:By this logic we should have never fired Mularkey.
Well Bradley was the best coach the Jags could attract after firing Mularkey so maybe there's something to it.
Quote:It is amazing the lengths people will go through to defend this steaming oil of dog crap we call an NFL team.
I'm amazed how can come on a here and complain, complain, complain but offer no solutions. What does firing Gus Bradley get you? What's the point? We'd have to start from scratch. Again. For what? A new system? New coordinators? What's the difference if it's the same players? Players not plays. If this team had a nfl-ready qb, it would be one thing. But firing a head coach because his qb currently sucks is dumb.
Dumb.
How can you confirm a head coach is underperforming with all these rookies? You really think someone else could have this team further along right now? What evidence can you provide to support that? We all know what the record is but it doesn't necessarily mean he is underperforming.
This may be a shock to some people, but sometimes first-year head coaches win. It happens all the time, actually.