Quote:This team has several issues to deal with. The head coach is not among those issues.
Whaaaaaaat??
Oh wait, I get it, you're just joking.
Quote:OTOH, the 1990's Bengals stuck with their failed coaches for an average of 4 years. It didn't help their record or improve the league perception of them. Your Lions stuck with Fontes too long, and followed it up with Bobby Ross for four years. Marinelli got three full years. [Never underestimate the power of the] Schwartz got five. How did that work out?
The Browns stuck with Butch Davis and Crennel for four seasons each. It didn't help.
The Browns and Raiders changed coaches frequently because 1) they chose bad coaches to begin with, and 2) their personnel decisions were horrendous, especially in Oakland with Al Davis in charge. Look at the list of coaches for both teams since 2002. It's a list of unproven former NFL assistants (plus previously failed Norv Turner). Just like the Jags with unproven Bradley (plus previously failed Mularkey).
It's time for the Jags to hire someone with a proven winning NFL record. There's no guarantee, since even the best coach can only do so much with a bad roster. But it would give the Jags the best chance of turning this disaster around. Right now we have to hope that the roster is not the Jags problem, otherwise there's no hope at all.
Good post above.
I'd like to see the Jags hire an NFL head coach with a proven winning NFL track record such as a Payton or a Harbaugh, but either will be hard to get. That said, I'd settle for a successful head coach from the college ranks as long as he was proven to be a top notch builder of a program and done so at the I-A (BCS) level. I think what they simply cannot do at this point is try the "no head coaching experience" angle for their next head coach, particularly from the defensive side of the ball. It didn't work with Del Rio and its not working with Bradley, either.
Not to disrespect a beat writer, but people really need to take their opinions with a grain of salt. They are journalists (so to speak) who are under deadlines to write something before press time often with little research. It's just the nature of the creature.
You see how often the ESPN and FoxSports, et. al. writers still opine about the lack of fan support here right? It's because they have to write something in a hurry and grab whatever has imbedded itself in their minds. Sometimes borrowing the thoughts of other clueless writers as well.
What's interesting is people on this board will take an article on ESPN about some other team and run with it as though it's gospel then complain about how that author didn't have his facts right when writing about the Jags. Question everything folks.
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All we can hope for is that Khan really wants to build a winner and if it takes going through a coach or 2 to get the right one to lead the Jaguars back to winning seasons, that he will make that decision, sooner rather then later.
Quote:OTOH, the 1990's Bengals stuck with their failed coaches for an average of 4 years. It didn't help their record or improve the league perception of them. Your Lions stuck with Fontes too long, and followed it up with Bobby Ross for four years. Marinelli got three full years. [Never underestimate the power of the] Schwartz got five. How did that work out?
The Browns stuck with Butch Davis and Crennel for four seasons each. It didn't help.
The Browns and Raiders changed coaches frequently because 1) they chose bad coaches to begin with, and 2) their personnel decisions were horrendous, especially in Oakland with Al Davis in charge. Look at the list of coaches for both teams since 2002. It's a list of unproven former NFL assistants (plus previously failed Norv Turner). Just like the Jags with unproven Bradley (plus previously failed Mularkey).
It's time for the Jags to hire someone with a proven winning NFL record. There's no guarantee, since even the best coach can only do so much with a bad roster. But it would give the Jags the best chance of turning this disaster around. Right now we have to hope that the roster is not the Jags problem, otherwise there's no hope at all.
A case can certainly be made that the Lions stayed with Wayne Fontes and Jim Schwartz too long. In the case of Bobby Ross, he resigned after the 9th game of the 2000 season despite the Lions being 5-4 after two straight losses. Gary Moeller was the interim HC and after a 9-7 overall finish in 2000 following the most painful regular season loss I ever experienced as a fan in Game # 16 against the heavy underdog Bears, Moeller was let go after Matt Millen was hired as GM. Moeller was hired by Tom Coughlin as Jaguars Defensive Coordinator in 2001.
Getting back to Fontes, he did lead the Lions to the playoffs in 4 of his 8 seasons as non interim HC. The first two seasons Fontes was non interim HC were rebuilding seasons. While looking in hindsight that Fontes probably should have been fired after the playoff debacle in Philadelphia which followed a 7 game winning streak to close out the season, at the time the Lions made the playoffs 4 out of 5 seasons. Even with only one playoff win in that time frame, it's difficult to fire a HC that had the amount of success Fontes had relatively speaking when viewing the track record of the franchise the previous few decades.
As for Jim Schwartz, the one thing that probably saved him after the horrific ending to the 2012 season was the contract extension he signed back that summer. Even though the 2013 Lions collapse might have been avoided if Schwartz was fired after the 2012 season, the major benefit to Schwartz remaining the HC was the Lions Coaching Staff was one of the staff's at the 2013 Senior Bowl. If not for that, DE Ziggy Ansah and G Larry Warford probably wouldn't have been drafted by the Lions.
Unless the Jaguars hire a HC with a winning track record and someone who would give the Franchise a major perception boost ( basically along the lines of what you described ), IMO firing Gus Bradley after this season probably will very likely cause more harm than good. If the Jaguars fire Bradley after 2 seasons despite everyone knowing that the team was still in the major rebuilding process, this on top of the previous HC being shown the door after one season, I think many coaches and Free Agents are going to be skeptical about the Ownership and Front Office of the Franchise w/o a big time proven HC coming on board. Especially since the current owner has no track record of staying with a HC for more than 2 seasons.
There's also a major risk in hiring a big time proven HC. Will he be compatible with Dave Caldwell? Especially since that coach would be more accomplished than Caldwell in the NFL. I'm not sure what the answer to the following question is but I think it's worth mentioning the question. The question isn't a knock on Dave Caldwell. But it's something that could be a reality the Jaguars would be dealing with. Which proven big time HC's would be comfortable coming to Jacksonville, knowing that they will be working under a GM that hasn't produced enough tangible proven results yet as a GM? Basically, the pieces need to fit. I'm not sure if it's realistic to think the pieces will fit under any scenario in which Bradley is fired after the season and Dave Caldwell is retained.
One other thought that relates to this discussion. Tom Coughlin was on the hot seat in 2007 and 2011. Many called for him to be fired before the end of the previous seasons. The Giants decision to be patient with TC was probably the difference they won their 2 most recent Super Bowls. Patience sometimes does pay huge benefits.
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However, in all fairness, he's a link to Belichick celebrating like crazy.
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Pete Carroll does a similar thing. But you can ignore that and just talk about ol' cheat.