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(04-27-2020, 06:41 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Seems a little thin to me.  Why would Joe Biden be the only person in possession of a complaint about him?  

Secondly, if that was indeed Reade's mother, she did not actually refer to a sexual assault claim.  She just said her daughter had a complaint.  She also said her daughter did not go to the press out of respect for the unnamed senator she worked for.  Respect for a guy who assaulted her?  

This is not exactly a smoking gun.

As for my own opinion, I didn't support the Kavanaugh accuser, either, because it was uncorroborated and the timing of the accusation was pretty suspicious.  This seems to be the same thing.

Now if you're saying the media is hypocritical, you can make that argument all day long, about all the media, not just the mainstream media.  But if you're supporting Trump and you say Biden should withdraw because of this, you are being extremely hypocritical.

In 2019, Reade alleged that someone on Biden's staff suggested she was young and pretty and should be serving drinks at a fundraising dinner, which started an argument among the staff and led to her getting demoted, seemingly for no good reason.  *If* that's actually her mother on Larry King, that sounds more like what was discussed there.  A difficult staff situation, but she still respected the Senator, in this story, as he wasn't in the room when all that was said.

Some months later, Reade said Biden inappropriately offered her shoulder rubs.  Then, some months after that, now in 2020, Reade changes the story again and it escalates to Biden with his hands below the waist and under the clothes. Neither of these sound like what the mother on Larry King is talking about.

(04-27-2020, 07:32 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-27-2020, 06:41 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Seems a little thin to me.  Why would Joe Biden be the only person in possession of a complaint about him?  

Secondly, if that was indeed Reade's mother, she did not actually refer to a sexual assault claim.  She just said her daughter had a complaint.  She also said her daughter did not go to the press out of respect for the unnamed senator she worked for.  Respect for a guy who assaulted her?  

This is not exactly a smoking gun.

As for my own opinion, I didn't support the Kavanaugh accuser, either, because it was uncorroborated and the timing of the accusation was pretty suspicious.  This seems to be the same thing.

Now if you're saying the media is hypocritical, you can make that argument all day long, about all the media, not just the mainstream media.  But if you're supporting Trump and you say Biden should withdraw because of this, you are being extremely hypocritical.

In 2019, Reade alleged that someone on Biden's staff suggested she was young and pretty and should be serving drinks at a fundraising dinner, which started an argument among the staff and led to her getting demoted, seemingly for no good reason.  *If* that's actually her mother on Larry King, that sounds more like what was discussed there.  A difficult staff situation, but she still respected the Senator, in this story, as he wasn't in the room when all that was said.

Some months later, Reade said Biden inappropriately offered her shoulder rubs.  Then, some months after that, it escalates to Biden with his hands below the waist and under the clothes. Neither of these sound like what the mother on Larry King is talking about.

Two user ID's ago, I am sure were ready to throw Kavanaugh in the slammer and throw away the key

(04-27-2020, 08:08 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-27-2020, 07:32 AM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]In 2019, Reade alleged that someone on Biden's staff suggested she was young and pretty and should be serving drinks at a fundraising dinner, which started an argument among the staff and led to her getting demoted, seemingly for no good reason.  *If* that's actually her mother on Larry King, that sounds more like what was discussed there.  A difficult staff situation, but she still respected the Senator, in this story, as he wasn't in the room when all that was said.

Some months later, Reade said Biden inappropriately offered her shoulder rubs.  Then, some months after that, it escalates to Biden with his hands below the waist and under the clothes. Neither of these sound like what the mother on Larry King is talking about.

Two user ID's ago, I am sure were ready to throw Kavanaugh in the slammer and throw away the key

I did say Kavanaugh shouldn't be on the court, but it had nothing to do with the sexual allegations.  The man lied to the Senate multiple times, more than 10 years prior.

(04-27-2020, 06:41 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Seems a little thin to me.  Why would Joe Biden be the only person in possession of a complaint about him?  

Secondly, if that was indeed Reade's mother, she did not actually refer to a sexual assault claim.  She just said her daughter had a complaint.  She also said her daughter did not go to the press out of respect for the unnamed senator she worked for.  Respect for a guy who assaulted her?  

This is not exactly a smoking gun.

As for my own opinion, I didn't support the Kavanaugh accuser, either, because it was uncorroborated and the timing of the accusation was pretty suspicious.  This seems to be the same thing.

Now if you're saying the media is hypocritical, you can make that argument all day long, about all the media, not just the mainstream media.  But if you're supporting Trump and you say Biden should withdraw because of this, you are being extremely hypocritical.

Do you think I posted the as the only evidence? It's strictly one more drop in the bucket.

I was originally of the position that Tara Reade was lying just like CB-F. With new evidence this has a lot more meat, compared to CB-F where friends of her's at the time couldn't recall any such thing. Some other huge differences:

1. Tara Reade filed a complaint at the time.
2. Tara Reade actually remembers the time and place it happened.
3. Tara Reade is not a fanatical political opponent of Biden. She was part of his senate campaign at the time.

Yes, the biggest smoking gun is the way the MSM has handled the two almost-identical cases. After the NYT finally had ONE article about it they actually cut out the part about Biden caressing many other women and children at the behest of Biden's campaign. I saw a post from 2 weeks ago that showed CNN had 150 articles on CB-F's accusations and zero on TR's. That number may have changed in two weeks, still that's an incredibly huge level of partisanship.

Tara Reade is a lifelong Democrat.
Probably the reason she didn't want to harm Biden in 1993.
There's also the problem with being believed.
1993 is the era when Hillary Clinton was actively destroying the reputation of any woman who came forward with allegations against Bill.

To add a link to my previous comment:

Tara Reade told the story when it happened.

Tara Reid would make more sense

(04-27-2020, 08:20 PM)Last42min Wrote: [ -> ]

+1.

And another

(04-28-2020, 09:26 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]And another

Are you now taking the position that an accusation means guilt?

What is going to happen to the MSM if Trump brings this up? They have basically said we don't believe her after parading all these women out against Republicans.

(04-28-2020, 11:34 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]What is going to happen to the MSM if Trump brings this up? They have basically said we don't believe her after parading all these women out against Republicans.

The difference between Trump and Biden is, Trump has bragged about doing the thing Biden is denying.  So, how can Republicans attack Biden for doing something Trump has bragged about doing?

(04-28-2020, 11:52 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-28-2020, 11:34 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]What is going to happen to the MSM if Trump brings this up? They have basically said we don't believe her after parading all these women out against Republicans.

The difference between Trump and Biden is, Trump has bragged about doing the thing Biden is denying.  So, how can Republicans attack Biden for doing something Trump has bragged about doing?

The hypocrisy from both sides is appalling yet expected!

(04-28-2020, 09:26 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]And another

I saw this neighbor woman said she believes the story is true but supports Biden for President regardless.
She's clearly saying there are worse things in the world than being harassed in this manner.  I'm not a woman, so I wouldn't know.

(04-26-2020, 11:10 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2020, 10:39 AM)Byron LeftTown Wrote: [ -> ]Twitter has banned the #1 trending hashtag #DropOutBiden

The world is coming after Joe. Nobody can protect him now.

This was all coordinated by the Clinton campaign. Let Joe take out the far left candidates, drag up some Larry King footage (that was obviously available during Obama's 2 campaigns), then convince the left Hillary is "the only one left".who can beat Trump. 

Quite brilliant actually.

Is that why she's endorsing him today? Makes sense

(04-28-2020, 02:10 PM)Gabe Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2020, 11:10 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]The world is coming after Joe. Nobody can protect him now.

This was all coordinated by the Clinton campaign. Let Joe take out the far left candidates, drag up some Larry King footage (that was obviously available during Obama's 2 campaigns), then convince the left Hillary is "the only one left".who can beat Trump. 

Quite brilliant actually.

Is that why she's endorsing him today? Makes sense

All part of the plan.

(04-28-2020, 11:27 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-28-2020, 09:26 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]And another

Are you now taking the position that an accusation means guilt?

No.

But that was Joe Biden's position.

(04-28-2020, 02:10 PM)Gabe Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-26-2020, 11:10 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]The world is coming after Joe. Nobody can protect him now.

This was all coordinated by the Clinton campaign. Let Joe take out the far left candidates, drag up some Larry King footage (that was obviously available during Obama's 2 campaigns), then convince the left Hillary is "the only one left".who can beat Trump. 

Quite brilliant actually.

Is that why she's endorsing him today? Makes sense

Once she's on the ticket it will.

(04-28-2020, 11:52 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-28-2020, 11:34 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]What is going to happen to the MSM if Trump brings this up? They have basically said we don't believe her after parading all these women out against Republicans.

The difference between Trump and Biden is, Trump has bragged about doing the thing Biden is denying.  So, how can Republicans attack Biden for doing something Trump has bragged about doing?

This is a LIE!

First off, Trump never claimed he did it himself. He said "you" could do it. We don't know if Trump actually did it or if he was just repeating what someone else told him,but he did not brag about DOING it.

Secondly, Trump's statement was that they would LET YOU do it. It's not sexual assault if consent is involved. Tara Reade claims she did not give consent.

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(04-28-2020, 12:35 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-28-2020, 09:26 AM)MalabarJag Wrote: [ -> ]And another

I saw this neighbor woman said she believes the story is true but supports Biden for President regardless.
She's clearly saying there are worse things in the world than being harassed in this manner.  I'm not a woman, so I wouldn't know.

Funny how the matter becomes no big deal when the shoe is on the other foot. I'm betting almost all of those [BLEEP] hat wearing protesters will vote for Biden.