Quote:Anyone who's genuinely surprised by the content of these recordings hasn't been paying attention to anything Trump has said or done during the last 70 years.
or been to high school, or been to college, or... had friends to talk to
unfortunately people like fake. they want their president to be 100% facade. only having the appearance of good, but in reality pure evil.
The difference may possibly be that this doesn't offend women. But ladies may have a problem with it.
Battered women ,many times make excuses for their man. It's sad. But their love , insecurities or whatever it may be trump the horrendous behavior of their partners .
His comments offend some, others just take it as " guy talk".
It's different when it's someone else. I'm sure there aren't many who would like to hear that come from their fathers mouth as their mom sits at home 5 months pregnant. Then again, some would think, aaah, just words.
your politicians have been "PRESIDENTIAL" in the past but just [BLEEP] you under the table. alot of good that does for you.
two men.. talking.. in private about women. the people making a big deal about this are either virgins, have no friends, or never leave their house
Quote:two men.. talking.. in private about women. the people making a big deal about this are either virgins, have no friends, or never leave their house
One guy to another.. being honest.. have you ever groped a girl you didn't know upon first meeting her in a typical social setting? I would hope the answer is no. Have you ever engaged in the typical vulgar banter about women where one of your friends talks about groping a woman they just met in a normal social setting? Again, I would hope the answer is no.
Answer these questions honestly. If you say no to both, why are you treating it the same way you would if a guy said he WANTED to do something to a girl. Words matter when they sound like an open confession of sexual assault. Even in the realm of vulgar guy talk, there's a line.
Quote:One guy to another.. being honest.. have you ever groped a girl you didn't know upon first meeting her in a typical social setting? I would hope the answer is no. Have you ever engaged in the typical vulgar banter about women where one of your friends talks about groping a woman they just met in a normal social setting? Again, I would hope the answer is no.
Answer these questions honestly. If you say no to both, why are you treating it the same way you would if a guy said he WANTED to do something to a girl. Words matter when they sound like an open confession of sexual assault. Even in the realm of vulgar guy talk, there's a line.
the woman he was talking about he said he took her furniture shopping. then he was joking around saying you can grab any girl by the crotch if youre a star. literally nothing more than guy talk. and if you haven't heard guy talk, you are just being dishonest, or have literally never left your house.
Quote:the woman he was talking about he said he took her furniture shopping. then he was joking around saying you can grab any girl by the crotch if youre a star. literally nothing more than guy talk. and if you haven't heard guy talk, you are just being dishonest, or have literally never left your house.
Answer the questions.. I have had plenty of guy talk. Never has it moved to discussion of groping women I just met. Maybe it was talking about the desire to, but never openly bragging about doing it. He says his star power means they let him do it. Do you grope women or hang with guys who do? If so.. you are scum and should be arrested. I'd like to think you don't. If that's true, be man enough to admit this crosses a line with what you typically engage in during guy talk. Or just lie to yourself so you don't shatter this perfect image of Trump.
Quote:the woman he was talking about he said he took her furniture shopping. then he was joking around saying you can grab any girl by the crotch if youre a star. literally nothing more than guy talk. and if you haven't heard guy talk, you are just being dishonest, or have literally never left your house.
Nobody has said what Trump said and did was uncommon, the point is that anyone saying and doing these things are creeps at least, sexual assaulters at worse.
First. No guys don't talk like that. Period. Guys can be vulgar, guys can be gross, and guys can say about anything. With that said, guys don't speak like he did in that tape and to justify it usdownright ignorance. What this tape does is give evidence that as a 59 year old man he still had a lot of growing up to do.
Besides it's not what he said or weather it's vulgar or what not. What it did is cement in the minds of liberals, and apparently undecideds too as of late, that the guy is unequivocally not fit for the job.
Quote:Nobody has said what Trump said and did was uncommon, the point is that anyone saying and doing these things are creeps at least, sexual assaulters at worse.
Many in this thread are saying that it's uncommon, never heard of in the history on man before, kind of talk.
Quote:One guy to another.. being honest.. have you ever groped a girl you didn't know upon first meeting her in a typical social setting? I would hope the answer is no. Have you ever engaged in the typical vulgar banter about women where one of your friends talks about groping a woman they just met in a normal social setting? Again, I would hope the answer is no.
Answer these questions honestly. If you say no to both, why are you treating it the same way you would if a guy said he WANTED to do something to a girl. Words matter when they sound like an open confession of sexual assault. Even in the realm of vulgar guy talk, there's a line.
You didn't ask the question honestly. He never said a woman I just met with no preamble dragged under a table.
He was bragging about what some allow him to do, allow being the operative word.
Quote:You didn't ask the question honestly. He never said a woman I just met with no preamble dragged under a table.
He was bragging about what some allow him to do, allow being the operative word.
And in the same conversation he's talking about a woman turning him down. Doesn't sound like he forced himself on her...
Quote:Answer the questions.. I have had plenty of guy talk. Never has it moved to discussion of groping women I just met. Maybe it was talking about the desire to, but never openly bragging about doing it. He says his star power means they let him do it. Do you grope women or hang with guys who do? If so.. you are scum and should be arrested. I'd like to think you don't. If that's true, be man enough to admit this crosses a line with what you typically engage in during guy talk. Or just lie to yourself so you don't shatter this perfect image of Trump.
it was clearly a joke. as evidenced by the Billy Bush guy laughing. it's a damn joke. calm down.
your question doesn't matter. no i haven't done it. im also not a celebrity living the millionaire lifestyle.
Quote:Nobody has said what Trump said and did was uncommon, the point is that anyone saying and doing these things are creeps at least, sexual assaulters at worse.
no you just have everybody pretending it means he's creep when it's COMMON guy talk (as you say), meanwhile having had the same thoughts and conversations of their own.
Quote:First. No guys don't talk like that. Period. Guys can be vulgar, guys can be gross, and guys can say about anything. With that said, guys don't speak like he did in that tape and to justify it usdownright ignorance. What this tape does is give evidence that as a 59 year old man he still had a lot of growing up to do.
Besides it's not what he said or weather it's vulgar or what not. What it did is cement in the minds of liberals, and apparently undecideds too as of late, that the guy is unequivocally not fit for the job.
HA, i worked at a car lot before. it's actually worse. this was PG compared to the [BAD WORD REMOVED] i heard in my life.
so get out of here with your bull. total fiction.
what's worse? the guy who engages in guy talk or the woman married to an ACTUAL RAPIST. shouldn't be this difficult, but for the brainwashed masses it is.
Quote:it was clearly a joke. as evidenced by the Billy Bush guy laughing. it's a damn joke. calm down.
your question doesn't matter. no i haven't done it. im also not a celebrity living the millionaire lifestyle.
So living a millionaire lifestyle affords different rules? People are cool with Joran van der Sloot and Gary Glitter? I get Trump was trying to be funny. I guess I don't see the humor in grabbing women I just met by the crotch and saying I can get away with it because I am rich and powerful.
Quote:HA, i worked at a car lot before. it's actually worse. this was PG compared to the [BAD WORD REMOVED] i heard in my life.
so get out of here with your bull. total fiction.
You do realize there's a difference in saying I would like to do something and I actually do something right?
I would like to bury my face in her chest and motor boat her.
Vs.
I walked up to her an motor boated her.
You can see where there is a line, no? Or is your red "Made in China" hat pulled over your eyes?
Quote:So living a millionaire lifestyle affords different rules? People are cool with Joran van der Sloot and Gary Glitter? I get Trump was trying to be funny. I guess I don't see the humor in grabbing women I just met by the crotch and saying I can get away with it because I am rich and powerful.
it's funny because it's extreme. that's the whole point of the joke. hey man, just grab her boob. tee hee. this [BLEEP] is coming out of the mouths of people ALL DAY EVERY DAY but now we're all pretending it actually means something. this is taking reality and flipping it upside down
Quote:You do realize there's a difference in saying I would like to do something and I actually do something right?
I would like to bury my face in her chest and motor boat her.
Vs.
I walked up to her an motor boated her.
You can see where there is a line, no? Or is your red "Made in China" hat pulled over your eyes?
HELLO. i just told you. in his conversation he wasn't actually saying he grabbed this particular woman there. if you were having guy talk and a guy said this, you would just laugh. you wouldnt be like "HEY MAN THATS NOT COOL" unless i guess if youre a total white knight trying to act pious.