(12-28-2020, 06:02 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-28-2020, 05:34 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]Dude stopped giving [BLEEP] right around November 5th.
At least you will get 2k out of it and 30T and counting in debt for your future grandkids.
1. No I won't.
2. I'm very torn on the idea of continued stimulus payments. On the one hand, people need them right now, and this is one of the few measures that actually directly targets those who need it. On the other, the magical creation of that much money is another inflation bomb waiting to hit.
3. Bernie Sanders was pushing for $2K while Donald Trump was holed up in the WH basement, crying about fraud and sucking his thumb while curled up on Maria Bartiromo's lap.
(12-29-2020, 10:29 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (12-28-2020, 06:02 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]At least you will get 2k out of it and 30T and counting in debt for your future grandkids.
1. No I won't.
2. I'm very torn on the idea of continued stimulus payments. On the one hand, people need them right now, and this is one of the few measures that actually directly targets those who need it. On the other, the magical creation of that much money is another inflation bomb waiting to hit.
3. Bernie Sanders was pushing for $2K while Donald Trump was holed up in the WH basement, crying about fraud and sucking his thumb while curled up on Maria Bartiromo's lap.
When it was the government and states that caused the financial devastation in the first place by forced shutdowns and not allowing people to earn a living, it is the duty of the government to fill that void. This isn't welfare.
Truth is, 2K is still a slap in the face. What is 2K going to do? Odds are anyone who needs it are already months behind on rent the landlord will never see and have likely already been collecting $2400 a month in unemployment to cover all the other bills.
This whole thing is a joke and EVERYBODY should be pissed off. People are too blind to see this was just a test run to see how strongly the government could flex their muscles during a pandemic. The end goal here is growing government and establishing a guaranteed basic income. If you don't believe me, just wait until a pandemic hits that impacts ALL age groups.
This is also psychological warfare by the government on the citizens. You better think twice before starting a business. Look what we can do to you if we want.
(12-29-2020, 11:05 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2020, 10:29 AM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ]1. No I won't.
2. I'm very torn on the idea of continued stimulus payments. On the one hand, people need them right now, and this is one of the few measures that actually directly targets those who need it. On the other, the magical creation of that much money is another inflation bomb waiting to hit.
3. Bernie Sanders was pushing for $2K while Donald Trump was holed up in the WH basement, crying about fraud and sucking his thumb while curled up on Maria Bartiromo's lap.
When it was the government and states that caused the financial devastation in the first place by forced shutdowns and not allowing people to earn a living, it is the duty of the government to fill that void. This isn't welfare.
Truth is, 2K is still a slap in the face. What is 2K going to do? Odds are anyone who needs it are already months behind on rent the landlord will never see and have likely already been collecting $2400 a month in unemployment to cover all the other bills.
This whole thing is a joke and EVERYBODY should be pissed off. People are too blind to see this was just a test run to see how strongly the government could flex their muscles during a pandemic. The end goal here is growing government and establishing a guaranteed basic income. If you don't believe me, just wait until a pandemic hits that impacts ALL age groups.
Even with stuff open, there is still economic stress and chronic unemployment because people are choosing to go out less. Government stay at home orders play a smaller role in this.
Captivating, Mikesez and SC1 were walking on the beach and happen on a lamp.
They picked it up and a genie popped out.
"I will grant you each one wish, whatever you desire", said the genie.
Captivating says, "I would like for my fellow liberals, Mikesez here, and I to live the life and exist under the form of government we believe in!" POOF! All the Democrats (and Mikeaez) in America were whisked away to Venezuela.
The genie turns to the SC1 and says, "And what is your wish?"
SC1 paused for a second and said, "You mean to tell me that all the Democrats (and Mikesez) in America are gone?"
The genie answered, "Yes!"
So SC1 goes, "In that case, I'll take a beer."
(12-29-2020, 02:40 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Captivating, Mikesez and SC1 were walking on the beach and happen on a lamp.
They picked it up and a genie popped out.
"I will grant you each one wish, whatever you desire", said the genie.
Captivating says, "I would like for my fellow liberals, Mikesez here, and I to live the life and exist under the form of government we believe in!" POOF! All the Democrats (and Mikeaez) in America were whisked away to Venezuela.
The genie turns to the SC1 and says, "And what is your wish?"
SC1 paused for a second and said, "You mean to tell me that all the Democrats (and Mikesez) in America are gone?"
The genie answered, "Yes!"
So SC1 goes, "In that case, I'll take a beer."
Lol, no, I don't believe that the government should own the means of production. Even so, that can end up like Venezuela or like Norway or even in between like Mexico.
(12-29-2020, 11:48 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2020, 02:40 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Captivating, Mikesez and SC1 were walking on the beach and happen on a lamp.
They picked it up and a genie popped out.
"I will grant you each one wish, whatever you desire", said the genie.
Captivating says, "I would like for my fellow liberals, Mikesez here, and I to live the life and exist under the form of government we believe in!" POOF! All the Democrats (and Mikeaez) in America were whisked away to Venezuela.
The genie turns to the SC1 and says, "And what is your wish?"
SC1 paused for a second and said, "You mean to tell me that all the Democrats (and Mikesez) in America are gone?"
The genie answered, "Yes!"
So SC1 goes, "In that case, I'll take a beer."
Lol, no, I don't believe that the government should own the means of production. Even so, that can end up like Venezuela or like Norway or even in between like Mexico.
Norway is not socialist, it's capitalist. That people continue that Big Lie is testament to the power of the left to control the narrative.
(12-30-2020, 04:38 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]
The machines produce a paper ballot which is then retained for possible later hand recount. They did a hand recount, and that proved that the machines were not changing votes. The hand recount matched the machine count. So it's been proven that the machines did not change any votes.
And now, they've just completed a signature audit, and it found no discrepancies. The signatures on the envelopes all match the signatures in the voters' files.
So why are they going on and on about this?
Marty you and many others continue to be hung up on one election. With the potential of fraud there THAT needs to be addressed. Why are these machines receiving transmissions? As the gentleman stated anyone can change the data real time. That should concern every American regardless of who wins or loses.
(12-30-2020, 12:02 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ] (12-29-2020, 11:48 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Lol, no, I don't believe that the government should own the means of production. Even so, that can end up like Venezuela or like Norway or even in between like Mexico.
Norway is not socialist, it's capitalist. That people continue that Big Lie is testament to the power of the left to control the narrative.
The government of Norway owns the oil company of Norway. They've owned it continuously for longer than Venezuela has owned theirs, IIRC.
(12-30-2020, 04:57 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2020, 04:38 PM)Jagwired Wrote: [ -> ]
The machines produce a paper ballot which is then retained for possible later hand recount. They did a hand recount, and that proved that the machines were not changing votes. The hand recount matched the machine count. So it's been proven that the machines did not change any votes.
And now, they've just completed a signature audit, and it found no discrepancies. The signatures on the envelopes all match the signatures in the voters' files.
So why are they going on and on about this?
They never did a full paper hand count of all votes. There is also a qr code that cannot be read by a human that is used to read the paper ballot. The words on the paper mean nothing.
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(12-31-2020, 11:43 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (12-30-2020, 04:57 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]The machines produce a paper ballot which is then retained for possible later hand recount. They did a hand recount, and that proved that the machines were not changing votes. The hand recount matched the machine count. So it's been proven that the machines did not change any votes.
And now, they've just completed a signature audit, and it found no discrepancies. The signatures on the envelopes all match the signatures in the voters' files.
So why are they going on and on about this?
They never did a full paper hand count of all votes. There is also a qr code that cannot be read by a human that is used to read the paper ballot. The words on the paper mean nothing.
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How many audits does it take before you trust that democracy still exists? You know that literally the entire power structure in Georgia is a bunch of Trump-lovin' country bumpkins, right?
(12-31-2020, 03:14 PM)TJBender Wrote: [ -> ] (12-31-2020, 11:43 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]They never did a full paper hand count of all votes. There is also a qr code that cannot be read by a human that is used to read the paper ballot. The words on the paper mean nothing.
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How many audits does it take before you trust that democracy still exists? You know that literally the entire power structure in Georgia is a bunch of Trump-lovin' country bumpkins, right?
How much evidence do you need to see that there is election fraud? They hacked into the current polling location during the meeting, proving that the machines are illegally connected to the internet.
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Going back to comments about the stimulus, the second stimulus came for a lot of people today. The first one I invested some of it in the stock market (along with money from paychecks, tax refunds) and was able to generate some extra money. This one I might save or use to pay the IRS, because I believe I will owe them this year, lol. I usually don't get a really big refund, but largely because of the money I made through investments this year, it looks like I will owe the IRS something. I also got a new job which boosted my income from last year, though I also try to make sure I have enough money taken out of my check for federal and state to prevent owing the IRS. I don't want to owe anyone if I can help it. But I don't actually mind owing if it's due to something like investment income and/or having a big increase in income.
(01-01-2021, 12:33 PM)mal234 Wrote: [ -> ]Going back to comments about the stimulus, the second stimulus came for a lot of people today. The first one I invested some of it in the stock market (along with money from paychecks, tax refunds) and was able to generate some extra money. This one I might save or use to pay the IRS, because I believe I will owe them this year, lol. I usually don't get a really big refund, but largely because of the money I made through investments this year, it looks like I will owe the IRS something. I also got a new job which boosted my income from last year, though I also try to make sure I have enough money taken out of my check for federal and state to prevent owing the IRS. I don't want to owe anyone if I can help it. But I don't actually mind owing if it's due to something like investment income and/or having a big increase in income.
Rule of thumb, if you don't owe the IRS money, you are doing it wrong. The uninformed (usually Democrat) tax payer doesn't understand why they get a big fat check back from Uncle Sam. The celebration of getting your own money back is sad.
(01-01-2021, 12:48 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Rule of thumb, if you don't owe the IRS money, you are doing it wrong. The uninformed (usually Democrat) tax payer doesn't understand why they get a big fat check back from Uncle Sam. The celebration of getting your own money back is sad.
Your inability to not blame Democrats for all your problems amazes
"Hey StroudCrowd, what do you think of this steak?"
"It would have been better, but the Democrats!!!!"
"I'm so much fo smarter than everyone!"
More educated people voted for Biden BTW.
(01-01-2021, 01:11 PM)Norman Mushari Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2021, 12:48 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Rule of thumb, if you don't owe the IRS money, you are doing it wrong. The uninformed (usually Democrat) tax payer doesn't understand why they get a big fat check back from Uncle Sam. The celebration of getting your own money back is sad.
Your inability to not blame Democrats for all your problems amazes
"Hey StroudCrowd, what do you think of this steak?"
"It would have been better, but the Democrats!!!!"
"I'm so much fo smarter than everyone!"
More educated people voted for Biden BTW.
Trump: "I love the poorly educated."
(01-01-2021, 01:11 PM)Norman Mushari Wrote: [ -> ] (01-01-2021, 12:48 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Rule of thumb, if you don't owe the IRS money, you are doing it wrong. The uninformed (usually Democrat) tax payer doesn't understand why they get a big fat check back from Uncle Sam. The celebration of getting your own money back is sad.
Your inability to not blame Democrats for all your problems amazes
"Hey StroudCrowd, what do you think of this steak?"
"It would have been better, but the Democrats!!!!"
"I'm so much fo smarter than everyone!"
More educated people voted for Biden BTW.
Does include dead people?
Face it, more uninformed people vote Democrat. That's why they are pandered to.
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