(11-02-2020, 01:46 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 01:03 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]The sides are equally polarized, but not equally extreme, and I think you'd need to do a lot of work to show otherwise.
Yep, just look at who is boarding up their businesses. It isn't red states, it is the liberal run cities. DC, NYC, etc are already boarding up their businesses because they know who is going to riot.
Nate Silver is already saying Biden is in trouble, if he doesn't win PA he is the underdog.
https://www.axios.com/pennsylvania-biden...41e2b.html
Trump had a huge crowd in Miami, after midnight. Trump going all day while Biden sleeps.
No, he's not saying Biden is in trouble. He still thinks Biden has more than an 80% chance of winning. What Silver was doing was spelling out all the ways Trump could possibly win. He was covering his behind.
(11-02-2020, 01:58 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 11:10 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]That is par for the course with his posts. He writes idiotic stuff like that all the time.
Good take, O-Line. I agree with much of what you say- especially that very few politicians can be trusted. Trump would have won this election easily had he not botched COVID so miserably. Republican voters who defended Trump will be regretting it once the final tally is in since he will also take down the Senate with him. Those hypocritical Senators who continued to support him will now have 4 years of being on the wrong side of the vote (Lindsay Graham being the worst).
For the sake of this country, I hope Biden is able to stand by his moderate beliefs and not cave to the far left. I believe he is capable of doing this- especially since he will only be a one-term President. Unfortunately, he will be inheriting a terrible situation with COVID at its peak so he has has work cut out for him. Selecting the right people for his cabinet is critical.
Finally, I hope you're wrong about Justin Fields. Unless the Jets lose, he will likely be our quarterback next year.
Trump's problem isn't that he did or did not botch Covid. He did botch the truth-telling part of it, that is true. But his real problem is that he is incapable of explaining to the American people why it was important to reopen the country. He needed to get on TV and explain to the American people in an honest way why we needed to let some people die to save the economy. He could have made that case, and stuck to it, and there is a very good chance that a majority of people would have given him credit for political courage. But he didn't do that, because, for a variety of different reasons, he's not capable of doing that.
(11-02-2020, 09:59 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 09:52 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]I disagree with you. I think he's parroting leftist talking points. Everyone here knows that there is going to be mostly peaceful massive riots from the left of Trump wins,, but he has the audacity to act like the right has been just as complicit in condoning violence. I suspect you'll see some small packets of violence coming from the right, but it will be universally condemned unless it's in self defense. It will fade quickly, too, without provocation from the left.
Accuse others of what you yourself are doing. This is straight out of the leftist playbook. I don't think Marty has that kind of intentionality, but I'm certain the folks writing his news do.
As to the notion that Trump supporters are too simple to think for themselves... well, that's most of humanity and half of this messageboard. Both parties are infested with simpletons.
Sometimes Marty seems like a reasonable guy, then goes and posts something like that. Look at the company he shares on this board. I think one foreigner just said actual peaceful protestors should be executed, lol.
Think JC was making fun of the Trump supporters here like JIB who suggested the BLM protestors on roads/bridges should be killed.
(11-02-2020, 11:10 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 09:59 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Sometimes Marty seems like a reasonable guy, then goes and posts something like that. Look at the company he shares on this board. I think one foreigner just said actual peaceful protestors should be executed, lol.
That is par for the course with his posts. He writes idiotic stuff like that all the time.
1) You said a running back would bust in the NFL because of his skin colour
2) I find it hilarious that comment went over both of your heads but also not surprised
(11-02-2020, 05:10 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 11:10 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]That is par for the course with his posts. He writes idiotic stuff like that all the time.
1) You said a running back would bust in the NFL because of his skin colour
2) I find it hilarious that comment went over both of your heads but also not surprised
If one is talking about the tailback position (and not the fullback position), historical data indicates black players are much more successful than white players at that position. McCaffrey's the exception but he has NFL pedigree & genetics which probably contributed to his development and success.
99 times out of 100 give me the dude that chases chickens down in Belle Glade Florida
(11-02-2020, 04:48 PM)lastonealive Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 09:59 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]Sometimes Marty seems like a reasonable guy, then goes and posts something like that. Look at the company he shares on this board. I think one foreigner just said actual peaceful protestors should be executed, lol.
Think JC was making fun of the Trump supporters here like JIB who suggested the BLM protestors on roads/bridges should be killed.
There is a difference between peaceful protesters and the likes of BLM rioters/looters.
(11-02-2020, 01:58 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 11:10 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]That is par for the course with his posts. He writes idiotic stuff like that all the time.
Good take, O-Line. I agree with much of what you say- especially that very few politicians can be trusted. Trump would have won this election easily had he not botched COVID so miserably. Republican voters who defended Trump will be regretting it once the final tally is in since he will also take down the Senate with him. Those hypocritical Senators who continued to support him will now have 4 years of being on the wrong side of the vote (Lindsay Graham being the worst).
For the sake of this country, I hope Biden is able to stand by his moderate beliefs and not cave to the far left. I believe he is capable of doing this- especially since he will only be a one-term President. Unfortunately, he will be inheriting a terrible situation with COVID at its peak so he has has work cut out for him. Selecting the right people for his cabinet is critical.
Finally, I hope you're wrong about Justin Fields. Unless the Jets lose, he will likely be our quarterback next year.
Wow, what a load of nonsense.
Reading the tea leaves tonight I think Trump takes FL, PA, AZ, and NC. We'll see in a few weeks after all the Biden lawsuits.
(11-02-2020, 11:45 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: [ -> ]Reading the tea leaves tonight I think Trump takes FL, PA, AZ, and NC. We'll see in a few weeks after all the Biden lawsuits.
You can feel the momentum in the air.
74 year old campaigning til 1AM the past few nights, drawing bigger crowds than Metallica.
(11-03-2020, 12:01 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ]https://pjmedia.com/election/victoria-ta...n-n1115447
Voter fraud out of that 1 county in Florida that causes all the problems, registering dead people to vote
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Thought Desantis got rid of Brenda Snipes. Corrupt officials are like [BLEEP] roaches in south Florida.
(11-02-2020, 02:48 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (11-02-2020, 01:58 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: [ -> ]Good take, O-Line. I agree with much of what you say- especially that very few politicians can be trusted. Trump would have won this election easily had he not botched COVID so miserably. Republican voters who defended Trump will be regretting it once the final tally is in since he will also take down the Senate with him. Those hypocritical Senators who continued to support him will now have 4 years of being on the wrong side of the vote (Lindsay Graham being the worst).
For the sake of this country, I hope Biden is able to stand by his moderate beliefs and not cave to the far left. I believe he is capable of doing this- especially since he will only be a one-term President. Unfortunately, he will be inheriting a terrible situation with COVID at its peak so he has has work cut out for him. Selecting the right people for his cabinet is critical.
Finally, I hope you're wrong about Justin Fields. Unless the Jets lose, he will likely be our quarterback next year.
Trump's problem isn't that he did or did not botch Covid. He did botch the truth-telling part of it, that is true. But his real problem is that he is incapable of explaining to the American people why it was important to reopen the country. He needed to get on TV and explain to the American people in an honest way why we needed to let some people die to save the economy. He could have made that case, and stuck to it, and there is a very good chance that a majority of people would have given him credit for political courage. But he didn't do that, because, for a variety of different reasons, he's not capable of doing that.
Not so fast. Democrat run states like mine would still have locked everything down and that's where the problem lies. If Biden wins and NC dictator Cooper wins, Cooper will keep us in eternal lockdown because he'll just point to Biden, who has already said he'd shut the country down again to contain covid, and say, "if its good enough for POTUS its good enough for me." We've been in a form of lockdown since the third week in
March.
People aren't mad that Trump did or didn't make the absolute right choices, they're mad because they've lost their jobs thanks to a democrat governor. If Trump can improve the situation then people will vote for him.
The national mask mandate Biden is touting is just another big government boondoggle. Telling people in places like Casper, Wyoming they are subject to the same requirements and penalties as those in crowded Eastern Seaboard cities will not sit well with most. Not to mention, who is going to enforce it?
(11-03-2020, 12:32 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Not so fast. Democrat run states like mine would still have locked everything down and that's where the problem lies. If Biden wins and NC dictator Cooper wins, Cooper will keep us in eternal lockdown because he'll just point to Biden, who has already said he'd shut the country down again to contain covid, and say, "if its good enough for POTUS its good enough for me." We've been in a form of lockdown since the third week in March.
People aren't mad that Trump did or didn't make the absolute right choices, they're mad because they've lost their jobs thanks to a democrat governor. If Trump can improve the situation then people will vote for him.
I spent ~ 6 weeks in the suburbs of Pittsburgh over the past 5 months and your points above are very critical factors within that population as well. Gov Wolf was one of the last to reopen and even at that, gyms, salons, etc were still prohibited from opening. There is a lot of pissed off people in PA that see other fellow small business owners in states like Florida reopening at 100% capacity whereas there are severe restrictions still being mandated in their state to the point Gov Wolf is reconsidering another lockdown.
If Biden loses a decent portion of the Dem vote, I think this is one of the key factors that have independent and left-center Dems voting for Trump. If I were Biden, I would be discouraging lockdowns; provided, the population takes the necessary measures of wearing a mask while in the general public.
(11-03-2020, 08:20 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: [ -> ] (11-03-2020, 12:32 AM)americus 2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Not so fast. Democrat run states like mine would still have locked everything down and that's where the problem lies. If Biden wins and NC dictator Cooper wins, Cooper will keep us in eternal lockdown because he'll just point to Biden, who has already said he'd shut the country down again to contain covid, and say, "if its good enough for POTUS its good enough for me." We've been in a form of lockdown since the third week in March.
People aren't mad that Trump did or didn't make the absolute right choices, they're mad because they've lost their jobs thanks to a democrat governor. If Trump can improve the situation then people will vote for him.
I spent ~ 6 weeks in the suburbs of Pittsburgh over the past 5 months and your points above are very critical factors within that population as well. Gov Wolf was one of the last to reopen and even at that, gyms, salons, etc were still prohibited from opening. There is a lot of pissed off people in PA that see other fellow small business owners in states like Florida reopening at 100% capacity whereas there are severe restrictions still being mandated in their state to the point Gov Wolf is reconsidering another lockdown.
If Biden loses a decent portion of the Dem vote, I think this is one of the key factors that have independent and left-center Dems voting for Trump. If I were Biden, I would be discouraging lockdowns; provided, the population takes the necessary measures of wearing a mask while in the general public.
Biden painted himself in a lockdown corner. There is no escaping. It is now up to the pissed off voters to do something about it, or the lockdowns will be even more extreme.
Saw an interview last night where Fauchi was flustered that individual states can do as they please.
I am seeing on social media lines are LONG around the country. This is where the Republicans have the advantage.
(11-03-2020, 09:05 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: [ -> ]I am seeing on social media lines are LONG around the country. This is where the Republicans have the advantage.
Yep, Dem leads in early voting are smaller than they were for Hillary while Trump holds significant leads in the swing states for expected turnout today.
I went and voted this morning and it ended up taking me like two and half hours. I ended up going to two different polling places. I had moved to a new place back in August and I wasn't sure where I needed to vote. I looked online and I saw information that if I was at my new address for over 60 days, I had to vote at the new polling place. So, I went to the new polling place and the line there was very long. It was uncomfortable standing out there in the cold, and there was a couple behind me who kept coughing and they weren't wearing a mask. I stood in that line almost two hours, and the way that they were moving people didn't seem to be very efficient.
When I got inside and talked to the poll workers they told me that I actually needed to go to my old polling place, because my address was still in the system. (Though, I have actually received voting information to my new address prior to election day) I went to the old polling, place and they told me that my new place should have let me vote.
My old polling place did let me vote, and it didn't take me very long to vote there. That place never has a big line and when I went there there was hardly anyone there. I was actually the 50th person to vote there today.
My observations from voting at the polls today is that at my new polling place there were a lot of republicans in line voting. There are a lot of Trump republican signs all throughout the neighborhood.
And that I will also be doing mail in voting for the foreseeable future. I don't usually stand in long lines like that to vote. That was uncomfortable and not very efficient and I don't want to be in long lines like that due to COVID. I already have a high exposure job and I don't want to deal with any more than necessary. I'm one that usually likes to go in person to vote, but I don't like my new voting place and don't want to wait in long lines there, lol.