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Quote:It might be a bad sign.....but I look at it as the opposite. Just look at Josh Gordon as the other example. No news is better than that.

Exactly

Quote:1) He was 22, no longer in school and had been drafted, when he was picked up for driving drunk.

2)  Drinking to a BAC of .24 is not normal.  I believe most experts will agree that those who find such drinking "normal", are in denial of their own drinking problems.

3)  Is a personal insult your default response when unable to defend your position?

 

Regardless if he was 20 or 22. Kids that age will drink and he made a stupid decision. There is no way you can link a .24 alcohol level to addiction. You sound STUPID.

The world of addiction is a easy world to stay in if you have cash. You will start to see DUI, arrest etc..etc... I would think. Then we would no more about Blackmon. He seems to be straightening his life out or is extremely lucky.

 

I believe that Blackmon would make a statement to the press that he has retired or something on this order. I guess that is what is so strange about this. It makes you believe he has got a chance on coming back.

 

Or he is very lost at this minuite. Oh well no new news here.

Quote:The world of addiction is a easy world to stay in if you have cash. You will start to see DUI, arrest etc..etc... I would think. Then we would no more about Blackmon. He seems to be straightening his life out or is extremely lucky.

 

I believe that Blackmon would make a statement to the press that he has retired or something on this order. I guess that is what is so strange about this. It makes you believe he has got a chance on coming back.

 

Or he is very lost at this minuite. Oh well no new news here.

 

As I said on the last page, maybe its wishful thinking, but I take no news as good news. Josh Gordon's name keeps making news, and its always bad news. I'll take "no news" over THAT situation anyway. 

Quote:Regardless if he was 20 or 22. Kids that age will drink and he made a stupid decision. There is no way you can link a .24 alcohol level to addiction. You sound STUPID.

1)  Not many 22 year olds consider themselves to still be "kids".

2)  Drinking to a .24 level is not casual drinking, it's binge drinking.

3)  Alcohol abuse in not addiction, though it often leads to addiction.

 

I'm sorry this is all so difficult for you to understand.  There are numerous published works on the subject that you may find helpful. 

The fact that he was able to operate a vehicle at .24 suggests that he had, at the very least, built up a big tolerance to alcohol. Taking into account his weight, the BAC suggests that he had at least 10 drinks before driving.

Quote:None of us know Blackmon, so that question can't be answered. Heck, you don't even live in Jacksonville. LOL.


Blackmon can be a Top 5 receiver. He'll be given every single chance and opportunity to make it back into the league. It's up to him.

First of all, I lived in Jacksonville longer than you have, kiddo.


More Importantly, what does me not living in Jacksonville have to do with anything? You think you are privy to some insider info based on your proximity? You think news on Blackmon would travel to your Internet connection that much faster than mine? Twitter news has a layover in Salt Lake?


You keep your hopes up young Thomas. Excuse me for not being so naive.

Quote:Regardless if he was 20 or 22. Kids that age will drink and he made a stupid decision. There is no way you can link a .24 alcohol level to addiction. You sound STUPID.

 

Maybe not.  When one incident becomes multiple incidents, and you are in a situation where you're just coming back from a 4 game suspension only to be suspended indefinitely weeks later, that sure sounds like there's a problem.  You're welcome to think otherwise, but the fact that this isn't his first time through this routine would indicate if anyone is sounding stupid here, it's not the people suggesting he's an alcoholic. 

Quote:I assume application for reinstatement would be reported instantly.  How long it would take the league to decide on the matter, I don't know.

 

You're right, it is awfully quiet on the Blackmon front.  I take that as a very bad sign.

 

If he hasn't applied for reinstatement by the time training camp starts, that's a bad sign for sure.  I think it's getting to the point where it's a safe bet he's not playing in 2014.  Beyond that, we'll see. 

Quote:First of all, I lived in Jacksonville longer than you have, kiddo.


More Importantly, what does me not living in Jacksonville have to do with anything? You think you are privy to some insider info based on your proximity? You think news on Blackmon would travel to your Internet connection that much faster than mine? Twitter news has a layover in Salt Lake?


You keep your hopes up young Thomas. Excuse me for not being so naive.

 

So we don't get the interweb reports faster on the Jags than those outside of Jax?  Very disappointed. 

Quote:If he hasn't applied for reinstatement by the time training camp starts, that's a bad sign for sure.  I think it's getting to the point where it's a safe bet he's not playing in 2014.  Beyond that, we'll see. 

The NFL drug policy states he is banished for a minimum of one year.

 

I couldn't imagine the NFL even accepting an application with 3-4 months still left on his banishment. Too much could happen in that amount of time.

 

I think expecting info by camp could be a little premature.

 

I'm thinking Octoberish for any real news on that front.

 

If I haven't heard anything by Nov. 1st, ( I believe his anniversary date) then I will start worrying.

At this point even if the Drunkman returns all he will do is cause dissension in the locker room. There are guys buying in, doing the right things, working their tales off and suddenly the mighty Drunkman returns and they are gonna lose reps? The guy is beyond trusting and I do not believe Bradely has taking kindly to the Drunkman's non communication as his team mates have alluded to. I would lay down a wager that he never plays another down for the Jaguars or any other team. How many chances should a drunk get?

Quote:So we don't get the interweb reports faster on the Jags than those outside of Jax? Very disappointed.

Maybe a quarter second faster?

Quote:The NFL drug policy states he is banished for a minimum of one year.


I couldn't imagine the NFL even accepting an application with 4 months still left on his banishment. Too much could happen in that amount of time.


I think expecting info by camp could be a little premature.


I'm thinking Octoberish for any real news on that front.


If I haven't heard anything by Nov. 1st, ( I believe his anniversary date) then I will start worrying.

He was permitted to apply, I believe, in June.

Quote:He was permitted to apply, I believe, in June.

I've heard some unsubstantiated claims for earlier dates, but according to this http://nfllabor.files.wordpress.com/2013...policy.pdf a banished player can't apply for reinstatement until 1 month prior to his 1 year anniversary date.

I found in the actual drug policy appendix B that a player may apply for reinstatement no sooner than 60 days prior to his 1 year anniversary date.

 

I think there has been a lot of misinformation floating around regarding Blackmon's reinstatement time table.

 

We shouldn't expect to hear anything about his applying for reinstatement until Sept. at the earliest.

 

http://images.nflplayers.com/mediaResour...Policy.pdf

Quote:At this point even if the Drunkman returns all he will do is cause dissension in the locker room. There are guys buying in, doing the right things, working their tales off and suddenly the mighty Drunkman returns and they are gonna lose reps? The guy is beyond trusting and I do not believe Bradely has taking kindly to the Drunkman's non communication as his team mates have alluded to. I would lay down a wager that he never plays another down for the Jaguars or any other team. How many chances should a drunk get?

 

Is that really necessary? What are you, 5?? 

 

And, I think you're off in that assessment anyway. Adding one of the best talents at the position in the league will not "cause dissent" in the locker room.  

Quote:Is that really necessary? What are you, 5?? 

 

And, I think you're off in that assessment anyway. Adding one of the best talents at the position in the league will not "cause dissent" in the locker room.  

Hey, I call em like I see em, he's a drunk.

 

I believe your assessment of my assessment is incorrect. You trying to tell me that Shorts, Lee, Brown, Robinson are not going to be peeved if they start losing reps to him even if only during practice to see if the drunk can still even compete. Funny that you don't seem to mind labels unless they are attached to someone you are a fan boy of.

Quote:Hey, I call em like I see em, he's a drunk.

 

I believe your assessment of my assessment is incorrect. You trying to tell me that Shorts, Lee, Brown, Robinson are not going to be peeved if they start losing reps to him even if only during practice to see if the drunk can still even compete. Funny that you don't seem to mind labels unless they are attached to someone you are a fan boy of.

 

Blackmon is a STUD talent. He's already proven when he plays, he does so at a level that is among the better WR of the sport. 

 

If I'm a fan boy of Blackmon, its earned. This team is wothout a shred of doubt better WITH Blackmon than without him, and thats the bottom line. 

Quote:Blackmon is a STUD talent. He's already proven when he plays, he does so at a level that is among the better WR of the sport. 

 

If I'm a fan boy of Blackmon, its earned. This team is wothout a shred of doubt better WITH Blackmon than without him, and thats the bottom line. 

Therein in lies the problem. They are without him because he's a drunk. THAT'S the bottom line. He has earned nothing as far as I'm concerned, especially a pity party.