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Drug & alcohol problem.  Loser!

I've enjoyed reading the opinions on Blackmon. As far as I'm concerned, yesterday's news came as no surprise. He seems to be a more talented version of R.J. Soward. His previous statements or "apologies" have been clearly lacking of any genuineness. So what do the Jaguars do? He is their most talented player by far. The wide receiving corps looked like their only strong position going forward. Next year's q.b. (probably Bridgewater or Mariotta) will need weapons to overcome the problems all rookie q.b.'s experience. Of greater concern is the long term effect this will have on our "next" franchise quarterback. As high as fans are about Bridgewater, many also felt the same way about Leftwich and Gabbert. One season of poor pass protection and wide receivers who can't get open will likely compromise the confidence and long term success of Bridgewater.

 

On the other hand, what are the chances that Blackmon overcomes his addiction? For every Cris Carter or Jared Allen, there are many more Lawrence Phillips types who continue to tease teams with their talent and promises only to fall victim again to their addictions. Admittedly, I have no idea what Blackmon's addiction is or his chances of recovery. I'll leave that up to Caldwell and Khan. If they feel he has a 50-50 chance, or greater, of overcoming this I say they should give him 1 more chance due to his enormous talent. If it is less than 50%, they need to cut their losses.

 

Regardless of what happens with Blackmon, I echo the thoughts of all true Jaguar fans who are sick and tired of the combination of bad decisions by management (Matt Jones, Gabbert, Harvey, Reggie Williams, etc.)  and bad luck (i.e. Joeckel and Blackmon). It is almost as if this team has been cursed. Let's just hope Caldwell, Bradley and Khan have what it takes to turn this team around.

Quote:On the other hand, what are the chances that Blackmon overcomes his addiction? For every Cris Carter or Jared Allen, there are many more Lawrence Phillips types who continue to tease teams with their talent and promises only to fall victim again to their addictions. Admittedly, I have no idea what Blackmon's addiction is or his chances of recovery. I'll leave that up to Caldwell and Khan. If they feel he has a 50-50 chance, or greater, of overcoming this I say they should give him 1 more chance due to his enormous talent. If it is less than 50%, they need to cut their losses.

 

What was Lawrence Phillips addicted to? Beating up women?

Seriously, what is it with our WRs and drugs?  Reggie, Matt Jones, Jimmy, Blackmon, Soward.  Am I missing anyone?  4/5 were drafted by us and in the first round also, which is pretty sad.

Quote:"I think he's played his last game as a Jaguar," O'Halloran said. "He's let down this organization a minimum of 4 times, at some point you have to move on."

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What do you expect when we DRAFT players that weren't even a top 10 player on their team in college.

 

 

Wait, I thought Blackmon was the one on drugs?....

Quote:Seriously, what is it with our WRs and drugs?  Reggie, Matt Jones, Jimmy, Blackmon, Soward.  Am I missing anyone?  4/5 were drafted by us and in the first round also, which is pretty sad.

 

Just because, Jaguars...

I have no doubt that if the Jaguars released Blackmon (which I don't think they will), he will go to another team, clean up and become an All-Pro. Well, because that's how it will work out...

If you read Caldwell's statements you will hear him say something to the effect of Blackmon needing to be a good member of the community no matter what community that is.  Him not giving the definitive endorsement of him being a member of the Jacksonville community leads me to now believe that he may not be back. 

Quote:It's sad, but there has been a lot of players with issues that ended up better (M. Irvin, C. Carter, etc.). How ever disappointed we are with him, he has too much talent to just give up on him. With the character of our leadership, I think they will try and provide more help and see if he can turn things around. If another situation arises or something happens, next year, I think he would be struck out; and his NFL career could be over. But I think we give him one more chance.

 

Yep, imagine if Dallas would have given up on Irvin...

 

 

I also doubt Irvin was squeaky clean during his time in Dallas. I think theres a lot of "cover up" in Dallas that maybe in other places wouldn't be. 

 

 

Heck, maybe if Blackmon was a Cowboy, he wouldn't even be suspended right now. 

Quote:Seriously, what is it with our WRs and drugs?  Reggie, Matt Jones, Jimmy, Blackmon, Soward.  Am I missing anyone?  4/5 were drafted by us and in the first round also, which is pretty sad.

 

 

That's a problem.

Quote:I have no doubt that if the Jaguars released Blackmon (which I don't think they will), he will go to another team, clean up and become an All-Pro. Well, because that's how it will work out...

 

Thats exactly how it would work out. 

 

If the Jags flat out released him, they are dumber than rocks. 

 

If they instead traded him to an NFC team, I still wouldn't agree/ or like it at all, but at least it would show SOME form of intelligence in the front office. 

Quote:That's a problem.

 

But the only common denominator is the city of Jacksonville. These guys were under different coaching staffs, GM's. Even owners.

Quote:Thats exactly how it would work out. 

 

If the Jags flat out released him, they are dumber than rocks. 

 

If they instead traded him to an NFC team, I still wouldn't agree/ or like it at all, but at least it would show SOME form of intelligence in the front office. 

 

He has zero trade value. Zero.

Quote:That's a problem.

At least none of them were drafted by Caldwell and the current FO, so there's that at least.

Quote:I think it's more ambivalence.  If they let him go, I think most of us would understand the move.  If they keep him, I get that too.  If I were choosing, I'd take the latter, but only because regardless of what we want, this is his last chance.  May as well see if that sinks in.

 

 

Yeah, pretty much.  Even the ones who say to cut him usually say "I'm done with him", which at least to me is a sign that they're done caring about what he does.  But if the Jags keep him, I don't expect big complaints.  Like you said, more "yeah, we're stuck with this guy for the entire trip".

 

From a management and PR standpoint, the absolute worst case scenario is to release him and then watch him "star" for another team. Especially while the Jaguars are rebuilding. WR is a high profile position. That would be ANOTHER nightmare for Jaguar management. Hopefully for the Jaguars cooler, rational heads will prevail.

 

The bigger long term issue (as another poster mentioned) is what is going on with the scouting department? This many problems at one position over the last few years should prompt changes.

Quote:At least none of them were drafted by Caldwell and the current FO, so there's that at least.

 

Good post. It will be interesting to see if everyone realizes what was inherited and give the current regime time to work things out. But still. At this point, we have to call this more than just "bad luck."

Quote:He has zero trade value. Zero.

 

Thats ridiculous. I don't believe that there wouldn't be one NFC team out there unwilling to give a 6th or even 7th round pick for a guy with Blackmon's potential. 

 

I don't even want them to deal him.....just saying that it would be a better alternative than outright releasing him and having him wind up on some AFC rival team and blow up. 

 

I'd rather the Jags just give him another shot. Sink or swim here, not elsewhere. 

Quote:But the only common denominator is the city of Jacksonville. These guys were under different coaching staffs, GM's. Even owners.

 

not the only common denominator - all WR's too. 2nd common denom. 

Quote:Yep, imagine if Dallas would have given up on Irvin...

 

 

I also doubt Irvin was squeaky clean during his time in Dallas. I think theres a lot of "cover up" in Dallas that maybe in other places wouldn't be. 

 

 

Heck, maybe if Blackmon was a Cowboy, he wouldn't even be suspended right now. 

 

 

Let me begin by saying a I could be dead wrong about this. But I think one of the issues is that the NFL's drug policy is much stricter today. I believe given his track record, Blackmon's next failed test carries an automatic 1 year ban. I am not sure the rules were that harsh 25 years ago.