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Quote:I don't care, don't take me seriously. I sure as hell don't take you Mariota mouthbreathers seriously. Because you apparently have no idea what makes a good PRO QB.

You know what makes a good qb though?

Quote:You know what makes a good qb though?

 

I've repeatedly listed the attributes of what makes a good NFL QB (usually followed by Teddy comment) in this thread. As they go hand in hand. 

 

Apparently some on here think a guy who usually locks on his first read and hits it because gimmicky offense often leaves said player open, and if said player is covered, use gifted athleticism to make big college running play = future stud pro QB. 

Quote:Totally sucked? ok then.

Given the fact that you're playing the 50th best teams in the country (which are the toughest teams Louisville has faced thus far), yes .... those game should have been blowouts and Teddy was pretty much like your run of the mill QB during those games.

 

He was 37-59 for 560 yards 3 TDs and 1 Int. --- against Kentucky (worst team in the SEC) and Rutgers (who gave up 52 to Fresno St and 52 to SMU)

 

The other games were against Ohio, Eastern Kentucky, FIU, and Temple

 

It's like playing in the FCS this year.

Quote:Better than anything you give. You're too blind to see that theres only a few teams in this league that a guy like Mariota could go to to have a reasonable chance to succeed as a pro (and we're not one of them, currently, btw) . You are incapable of projecting players to the pro's. You're like the mouthbreather type I spoke of yesterday that in addition to falling in love with the athleticism of a player like Mariota, will be double-gung ho once he blows up the combine. Me like running Koerterbakc that makes big college running playz, drool....

 

You're going off the deep end bro. Back away fron the computer and take many deep breaths.

Quote:I've repeatedly listed the attributes of what makes a good NFL QB (usually followed by Teddy comment) in this thread. As they go hand in hand.


Apparently some on here think a guy who usually locks on his first read and hits it because gimmicky offense often leaves said player open, and if said player is covered, use gifted athleticism to make big college running play = future stud pro QB.

Your "attributes" have always lead to qb success.


Yep, that's why we think he will be successful.

Quote:Your "attributes" have always lead to qb success.


Yep, that's why we think he will be successful.

 

I knew Gabbert was going to be a flop pre-draft....which is better than could be said for some of you that bought into the non-justified hype. 

Quote:I'll have to watch some more of Mariota. I know he has tons of measurables and production, I am just scared of drafting off potential after Gabbert.

Theres a difference between Mariota and Gabbert, and that is production. Marcus Mariota has been highly productive at Oregon, Blaine Gabbert was never productive at Missouri, Mariota knows how to put the ball in the inzone. Blaine Gabberts potential never matched his production.

Quote:I knew Gabbert was going to be a flop pre-draft....which is better than could be said for some of you that bought into the non-justified hype.

Cuz some of us are fans. It's ok to have an irrational acceptance for something you previously did not like. It's part of being a fan. Blind faith.

Quote:Given the fact that you're playing the 50th best teams in the country (which are the toughest teams Louisville has faced thus far), yes .... those game should have been blowouts and Teddy was pretty much like your run of the mill QB during those games.

 

He was 37-59 for 560 yards 3 TDs and 1 Int. --- against Kentucky (worst team in the SEC) and Rutgers (who gave up 52 to Fresno St and 52 to SMU)

 

The other games were against Ohio, Eastern Kentucky, FIU, and Temple

 

It's like playing in the FCS this year.

 

Teddy doesn't play in the type of offense that gets blowout after blowout.  He's not going to put up video game numbers.  People overrate those QB's that put up Video game numbers *looks at Mariota* Yup.  

Quote:Not sure why Mariota would even be considered a better prospect than RGIII.

He's a bigger version of RGIII, Mariota is a dominant player, if you've watched him play over the past two seasons you would know why NFL scouts are gushing over him. He wins from in and outside the pocket, he is decisive and processes information quickly, he has breakaway speed at 6'4 225 Lbs, his physical and mental attributes match his production. Listen, I like Teddy Bridgewater more than any other Qb in the coming draft, but to ignore the dynamic Marcus Mariota is silly, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes 1st overall if he declares, he's that good.

Quote:Theres a difference between Mariota and Gabbert, and that is production. Marcus Mariota has been highly productive at Oregon, Blaine Gabbert was never productive at Missouri, Mariota knows how to put the ball in the inzone. Blaine Gabberts potential never matched his production.

 

Production partly because Oregon is a better team than Mizzou. 

 

Yes, Mariota is also a better QB, but still comes from a system that is not preparing him for NFL success. (unless as mentioned, that he goes to a select number of teams - Belichick/ Harbaugh (Both known for QB development) or Chip Kelly (similar system). 

Quote:Teddy doesn't play in the type of offense that gets blowout after blowout.  He's not going to put up video game numbers.  People overrate those QB's that put up Video game numbers *looks at Mariota* Yup.  

 

nutshell :thumbsup:  :yes:

Quote:He's a bigger version of RGIII, Mariota is a dominant player, if you've watched him play over the past two seasons you would know why NFL scouts are gushing over him. He wins from in and outside the pocket, he is decisive and processes information quickly, he has breakaway speed at 6'4 225 Lbs, his physical and mental attributes match his production. Listen, I like Teddy Bridgewater more than any other Qb in the coming draft, but to ignore the dynamic Marcus Mariota is silly, I wouldn't be surprised if he goes 1st overall if he declares, he's that good.

 

I know why mouthbreathers are gushing over him. Athleticism. 

 

As for processing info quickly?? C'mon man....its not hard to hit your first wide open read (usually some form of a screen or other short pass) , and if he's covered, run for first down.

 

I haven't seen many "NFL throws" that Mariota has had to make.

 

Mariota has questionable accuracy over 15 yards.....kinda like someone else we know....and has nowhere near the football IQ of a Teddy Bridgewater. I can envision Mariota as a guy that tries to win at the next level with his God given athleticism, and he's going to be in for a wake up call, when he finds out that every player at the next level has a lot of God gifted athleticism/ talent, and he can't over- rely on only that anymore... 

Quote:I know why mouthbreathers are gushing over him. Athleticism. 

 

As for processing info quickly?? C'mon man....its not hard to hit your first wide open read (usually some form of a screen or other short pass) , and if he's covered, run for first down.

 

I haven't seen many "NFL throws" that Mariota has had to make.

 

Mariota has questionable accuracy over 15 yards.....kinda like someone else we know....and has nowhere near the football IQ of a Teddy Bridgewater. I can envision Mariota as a guy that tries to win at the next level with his God given athleticism, and he's going to be in for a wake up call, when he finds out that every player at the next level has a lot of God gifted athleticism/ talent, and he can't over- rely on only that anymore... 

 

Have you honestly watched Marcus Mariota quarterback the Oregon offense? I have, an it's easy to see that he's a guy that wins inside and outside the pocket, he goes through his progressions comfortably and fires darts to his receivers, he is the real deal. Let's talk in May.

Mariota didn't impress me when I've watched him.  I think a lot of his success comes from the system.  He is fast but I rather take the chance to gamble for a true franchise QB.

Quote:Have you honestly watched Marcus Mariota quarterback the Oregon offense? I have, an it's easy to see that he's a guy that wins inside and outside the pocket, he goes through his progressions comfortably and fires darts to his receivers, he is the real deal. Let's talk in May.

 

Yes I have, and I think its funny that you and others act as if Mariota is doing anything all that impressive QB-wise in that offense. Its clear that what is impressive about Mariota is his measurables/ athleticism and big plays that he makes with his feet. Hitting wide open receivers- often on his first read  - often for screens/ short passes who then do the bulk of the work in YAC, isn't all impressive for the QB to me, sorry. 

 

Funny how the Mariota defenders never bring up examples of legit difficult NFL type deeper throws after going through his progressions, into tight coverage that he has to make. 

Ok, so does TMD like RG3 or not, I can't tell. I don't think you can call Oregon's offense any more of a 'system' than Baylor's. Also, during RG3's sophomore year he was being scouted mostly as a WR. Mariota is so much farther along 1/2 way into his sophomore year than RG3 was in virtually every way that it's not even funny. I can't think of a single reason why anyone could possibly like what they saw out of RG3 in college but not Mariota. It's just logically indefensible.

Quote:Ok, so does TMD like RG3 or not, I can't tell. I don't think you can call Oregon's offense any more of a 'system' than Baylor's. Also, during RG3's sophomore year he was being scouted mostly as a WR. Mariota is so much farther along 1/2 way into his sophomore year than RG3 was in virtually every way that it's not even funny. I can't think of a single reason why anyone could possibly like what they saw out of RG3 in college but not Mariota. It's just logically indefensible.

 

If we're running Oregon's offense next year, then by all means, draft Mariota. 

 

If were running a pro style offense, you'd have to be a jackass to choose Mariota over Teddy. 

Quote:Ok, so does TMD like RG3 or not, I can't tell. I don't think you can call Oregon's offense any more of a 'system' than Baylor's. Also, during RG3's sophomore year he was being scouted mostly as a WR. Mariota is so much farther along 1/2 way into his sophomore year than RG3 was in virtually every way that it's not even funny. I can't think of a single reason why anyone could possibly like what they saw out of RG3 in college but not Mariota. It's just logically indefensible.

 

+1

Quote:If we're running Oregon's offense next year, then by all means, draft Mariota. 

 

If were running a pro style offense, you'd have to be a jackass to choose Mariota over Teddy. 

 

Did you like RGIII coming out of Baylor?