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(03-20-2018, 12:56 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]With a one dimensional offense, a stronger schedule,   Jags on their way to 8-8 or 9-7 and just miss the playoffs, or 7-9 losing season.

The only good thing is our D seems to get up for the good teams. But I do have the fear of this as well. Like in 06. But we went nowhere in the playoffs in '05, so really can't compare to that.

(03-20-2018, 12:56 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]With a one dimensional offense, a stronger schedule,   Jags on their way to 8-8 or 9-7 and just miss the playoffs, or 7-9 losing season.

Cutting Hurns makes the offense one dimensional?  lol

Hurns was/is an average receiver at best.  He has a lot of heart but he wasn't the linchpin in the Jags offensive strategy.

(03-20-2018, 12:55 PM)SignMeUpAtQB Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-20-2018, 12:52 PM)PF* Wrote: [ -> ]I'll choose to ignore the whole money side of the Hurns debate ("if we had cut him earlier, we could've used the money...blah, blah") b/c I don't know the details

But it would have undoubtably made us more flexible during a critical time of FA, wouldnt you agree? Whether it would have helped us or not, it still would have made more sense then than now.

You keep saying this.

They could've cut Hurns at any time. If there was someone they wanted and they needed to use the money allocated for Hurns, they would've cut him dead on the spot. That wasn't the case.

Report: Jaguars part ways with TE Marcedes Lewis

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...edes-lewis


The Jaguars' cuts weren't limited to just Allen Hurns on Tuesday. Per the Associated Press, Jacksonville is also slated to move on from longtime tight end Marcedes Lewis this week.

(03-20-2018, 10:39 AM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-20-2018, 10:29 AM)brianmsbc Wrote: [ -> ]Feel like receivers are getting way more than they are worth on the free market right now.... this is a good thing for him.

Completely agree.  I just hope he can shake the concussion bug.  However, they only get worse with each one.

I think the concussion concerns are a legit factor in his release coupled with the price tag.  My guess is the team feels they can replace him in the draft cheaply.

I like Hurns, but I think he can be upgraded for a lot less coin.

can't believe people are surprised by this. They weren't going to pay $14-16 million on two receivers who haven't surpassed 500 receiving yards the past two years.

Now go draft St. Brown as a developmental WR and the position is set

Hurns is a legend but yeah just too much money to pay for him. Honestly would prefer a healthy Hurns on the team than Lee or Moncrief but the contract made it too hard.

LOL Moncrief haters everywhere

A little surprised. Hurns represents what Coughlin wanted the team to adopt. True Grit. Probably good for both sides though.

(03-20-2018, 01:38 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Hurns is a legend but yeah just too much money to pay for him. Honestly would prefer a healthy Hurns on the team than Lee or Moncrief but the contract made it too hard.

Why does Moncrief salary count $9million against the 2018 cap.  He hasn't done jack in the NFL.

(03-20-2018, 01:37 PM)TheSchmidt Wrote: [ -> ]can't believe people are surprised by this. They weren't going to pay $14-16 million on two receivers who haven't surpassed 500 receiving yards the past two years.

Now go draft St. Brown as a developmental WR and the position is set

Indeed St. Brown is one of my top second round targets along with Hayden Hurst. 

This is a mistake. I don't like it. I don't care what anyone says, when he's healthy, he's better than Lee.

(03-20-2018, 01:11 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-20-2018, 12:55 PM)SignMeUpAtQB Wrote: [ -> ]But it would have undoubtably made us more flexible during a critical time of FA, wouldnt you agree? Whether it would have helped us or not, it still would have made more sense then than now.

You keep saying this.

They could've cut Hurns at any time. If there was someone they wanted and they needed to use the money allocated for Hurns, they would've cut him dead on the spot. That wasn't the case.

So they cut him now when there is no market for them or the player. Makes sense.

(03-20-2018, 01:35 PM)FBT Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-20-2018, 10:39 AM)pirkster Wrote: [ -> ]Completely agree.  I just hope he can shake the concussion bug.  However, they only get worse with each one.

I think the concussion concerns are a legit factor in his release coupled with the price tag.  My guess is the team feels they can replace him in the draft cheaply.

I like Hurns, but I think he can be upgraded for a lot less coin.

Agree.  I wouldn't be surprised if he's not forced to retire this season or next should he have more.

Hurns, Arob... the club (and their doctors) knows them better than any other team.  They had a number, and the numbers didn't match.  Unfortunate, but completely understandable.

(03-20-2018, 01:42 PM)Jagsfan32277 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-20-2018, 01:38 PM)JackCity Wrote: [ -> ]Hurns is a legend but yeah just too much money to pay for him. Honestly would prefer a healthy Hurns on the team than Lee or Moncrief but the contract made it too hard.

Why does Moncrief salary count $9million against the 2018 cap.  He hasn't done jack in the NFL.

He projects well to the split-end spot and posted an impressive 15 yards per reception this past season. 

(03-20-2018, 01:44 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: [ -> ]This is a mistake. I don't like it. I don't care what anyone says, when he's healthy, he's better than Lee.

When he's healthy is probably a big factor in this release, especially with the concussion concerns. Lee is ascending.  Hurns is an expensive #3 or 4 receiver at this point.

@josinaanderson . @JosinaAnderson says on ESPN that the Jaguars asked Allen Hurns to take a pay cut around combine time and he asked for his release

(03-20-2018, 01:45 PM)SignMeUpAtQB Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-20-2018, 01:11 PM)knarnn Wrote: [ -> ]You keep saying this.

They could've cut Hurns at any time. If there was someone they wanted and they needed to use the money allocated for Hurns, they would've cut him dead on the spot. That wasn't the case.

So they cut him now when there is no market for them or the player. Makes sense.

They held onto him until they signed someone to fill his spot (Moncrief). It also wouldn't surprise me if they held onto him for as long as possible and attempted to trade him before cutting him. They couldn't and here we are.

But again, his contract wasn't the deciding factor in whether or not they could retain Colvin or sign some big contract free agent as you keep suggesting.

(03-20-2018, 01:51 PM)BklynJag Wrote: [ -> ]@josinaanderson . @JosinaAnderson says on ESPN that the Jaguars asked Allen Hurns to take a pay cut around combine time and he asked for his release

"Your wish is granted."

(03-20-2018, 01:51 PM)BklynJag Wrote: [ -> ]@josinaanderson . @JosinaAnderson says on ESPN that the Jaguars asked Allen Hurns to take a pay cut around combine time and he asked for his release

Ohhh, You don't say.