(05-13-2022, 11:48 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]Now there are reports that Putin is extremely sick with cancer and other illnesses. This would account for his extremely flaccid response to the disaster that is occurring in Ukraine. In his victory day speech he basically did nothing - neither escalated nor de-escalated. There are also several military experts and intelligence people who say that Russia cannot continue this for more than 90 days without being completely out of supplies of missiles and other ordnance.
And yet they continue to push troops and equipment into the meat grinder.
Russia is faced with eminent defeat and Putin appears very weak. One way to account for this is Putin is actually quite sick and the rumors thst he has advanced cancer are true.
Well the military experts and intelligence don't know what they are talking about or didn't get their updated PR talking points. Straight from Ukraine saying that Russia will drag this out through the end of the year.
I guess they need to launder more billions of US dollars back into the elites pockets.
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Marc Thiessen on the radio saying Ukraine has captured 254 Russian tanks which makes them the largest supplier of heavy armor to the Ukrainian army. I don’t know if it’s true but hilarious if so.
Ukraine didn't surrender in 2014 or 2015. They might agree to a cease fire in 2022 or 2023, like they agreed to in 2015, but there won't be any surrendering. But even a cease fire is unlikely while the Ukrainians perceive they are at an advantage with regard to casualty rates, rates of equipment loss, and rates of equipment resupply.
(05-19-2022, 11:53 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ]Marc Thiessen on the radio saying Ukraine has captured 254 Russian tanks which makes them the largest supplier of heavy armor to the Ukrainian army. I don’t know if it’s true but hilarious if so.
I am really pulling for Ukraine. While I think their government is corrupt and they answer to globalist elites, I will be happy if this becomes a deterrent for Chinese aggression.
US says Russia purchasing rockets, artillery shells from North Korea
As Russia's war on Ukraine rages on, Vladimir Putin's army appears to be suffering from severe supply shortages
The Russian Ministry of Defense is reportedly in the process of buying millions of rockets and artillery shells from North Korea to support its continued war on Ukraine, according to new U.S. intelligence.
A U.S. official said Monday that Russia looking to the isolated state of North Korea shows that the Russian military "continues to suffer from severe supply shortages in Ukraine, due in part to export controls and sanctions."
https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-says-ru...orth-korea
(09-06-2022, 06:19 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]US says Russia purchasing rockets, artillery shells from North Korea
As Russia's war on Ukraine rages on, Vladimir Putin's army appears to be suffering from severe supply shortages
The Russian Ministry of Defense is reportedly in the process of buying millions of rockets and artillery shells from North Korea to support its continued war on Ukraine, according to new U.S. intelligence.
A U.S. official said Monday that Russia looking to the isolated state of North Korea shows that the Russian military "continues to suffer from severe supply shortages in Ukraine, due in part to export controls and sanctions."
https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-says-ru...orth-korea
Is this like the food and other missile supply issues they were supposed to have months ago?
I guess there needs to be a new wave of propaganda as their advancement was crushed and the retaking of the town was shown to just be a photo opp and then they left.
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(09-06-2022, 08:21 AM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-06-2022, 06:19 AM)The Drifter Wrote: [ -> ]US says Russia purchasing rockets, artillery shells from North Korea
As Russia's war on Ukraine rages on, Vladimir Putin's army appears to be suffering from severe supply shortages
The Russian Ministry of Defense is reportedly in the process of buying millions of rockets and artillery shells from North Korea to support its continued war on Ukraine, according to new U.S. intelligence.
A U.S. official said Monday that Russia looking to the isolated state of North Korea shows that the Russian military "continues to suffer from severe supply shortages in Ukraine, due in part to export controls and sanctions."
https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-says-ru...orth-korea
Is this like the food and other missile supply issues they were supposed to have months ago?
I guess there needs to be a new wave of propaganda as their advancement was crushed and the retaking of the town was shown to just be a photo opp and then they left.
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So, you think everything is going swimmingly for the Russians? No problems? Everything going according to plan?
(09-06-2022, 12:23 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]So, you think everything is going swimmingly for the Russians? No problems? Everything going according to plan?
I'm sure they have problems, it's war and plans never succeed. They are crushing Ukraine though. It just depends on what their end goals are. The last counter attack by Ukraine was a terrible crushing defeat. They pushed forward, Russia returned some fire and retreated. That repeated several times. Then the idiots realized wait, we are now surrounded on all sides. A known Russia tactic to retreat and then sure up the flanks with more men to surround the advancing troops.
The issue is the media has been pushing this story since the 2nd week of the war. Russia isn't going to just stop and go away and they aren't running out of stuff.
Russia also has the upper hand from an energy perspective. Westerners have become too arrogant.
(09-06-2022, 07:09 PM)p_rushing Wrote: [ -> ] (09-06-2022, 12:23 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ]So, you think everything is going swimmingly for the Russians? No problems? Everything going according to plan?
I'm sure they have problems, it's war and plans never succeed. They are crushing Ukraine though. It just depends on what their end goals are. The last counter attack by Ukraine was a terrible crushing defeat. They pushed forward, Russia returned some fire and retreated. That repeated several times. Then the idiots realized wait, we are now surrounded on all sides. A known Russia tactic to retreat and then sure up the flanks with more men to surround the advancing troops.
The issue is the media has been pushing this story since the 2nd week of the war. Russia isn't going to just stop and go away and they aren't running out of stuff.
Terrible crushing defeat?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/polic...ines-favor
"Military experts are gushing over Ukraine’s stunning military advances over the past 72 hours, which broke through Russian lines in the Kharkiv region, reclaimed more than 1,200 square miles of occupied territory, and forced hundreds of humiliated Russian troops to retreat in disarray, abandoning their equipment and running for their lives.
“Ukraine has launched the greatest counteroffensive since World War II," said urban war expert [b]John Spencer[/b] on Twitter. “Look what they have done. They have achieved the unachievable.”
Here's some very frank discussion on Russian TV:
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/statu...hrrKLpIGVw
Russian TV pundits openly questioning war in Ukraine following devastating counteroffensive
Ukraine's military liberated more than 1,000 square miles in a matter of days
Russian TV pundits are openly questioning Russian President Vladimir Putin's war in Ukraine after Ukrainian forces handed the country a stunning defeat last week.
Ukraine's military swept away Russia's forces in the northeast Kharkiv region with a surprise counteroffensive that lasted through the weekend. Former member of Russian parliament Boris Nadezhdin declared that it was "impossible" for Russia to beat back the Ukrainian offensive during a Monday appearance on Russian state TV.
https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-tv...roffensive
Wonder how long it will take those TV experts to get gulag'd
(09-12-2022, 07:41 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Wonder how long it will take those TV experts to get gulag'd
Didn't one of Putin's critics just get pushed out of a hospital window? That boy don't play around.
(09-12-2022, 08:11 PM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (09-12-2022, 07:41 PM)mikesez Wrote: [ -> ]Wonder how long it will take those TV experts to get gulag'd
Didn't one of Putin's critics just get pushed out of a hospital window? That boy don't play around.
Eight prominent Russian businessmen have recently died either by "suicide" or mysterious accidents.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/at-least-8-...-1.6053506
One of the fascinating things about this war is the flexibility of the Ukrainian military. Thousands of Ukrainian NCOs have been trained in the United States over the past 10 years, and their ability to adapt and make decision on their own is far superior to their counterparts in the Russian army.
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Storie...ng-nation/
Training is responsible for Ukraine's greatest advantage over the Russian invaders. The Ukraine military ditched the old Soviet style of tactics and began emulating the West, and that included building a competent and empowered non-commissioned officer corps. "Working with the Ukrainians in terms of NCO leadership is something that we have done," Ryder said. "This is a strategic advantage in a lot of ways of the U.S. military and many Western militaries."
Small Ukrainian units led by sergeants are making a difference on the battlefield. These units move faster and do more than the Russian enemies.
But the really interesting thing is the informal bartering system between Ukrainian units, where they bypass any bureaucracy and trade weapons. They will call each other and say, "I need 2 Stinger missiles. I have some captured Russian tanks with ammo that I can trade." And they'll trade weapons among each other, based on their own individual needs.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/30/world...-line.html
"DONETSK REGION, Ukraine — The Ukrainian sergeant slid the captured Russian rocket launcher into the center of a small room. He was pleased. The weapon was practically brand-new. It had been built in 2020, and its thermobaric warhead was deadly against troops and armored vehicles.
"But the sergeant, nicknamed Zmei, had no plans to fire it at advancing Russian soldiers or at a tank trying to burst through his unit’s front line in eastern Ukraine.
"Instead, he was going to use it as a bargaining chip.
"Within the 93rd Mechanized Brigade, Zmei was not just a lowly sergeant. He was the brigade’s point man for a wartime bartering system among Ukrainian forces. Prevalent along the front line, the exchange operates like a kind of shadow economy, soldiers say, in which units acquire weapons or equipment and trade them for supplies they need urgently."
The article goes on to describe the trade of a captured Russian tank for a transport truck and 2 sniper rifles.
Personally, I think we are too quick to believe our own propaganda. By all accounts, this was a win for Ukraine, but at a terrible cost.
I also have concerns NATO may be showing its hand a bit too much. I really hope we don't push Russia to do something extreme. If they already feel like they are fighting the entire west, they might not hold back.
(09-13-2022, 09:00 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I think we are too quick to believe our own propaganda. By all accounts, this was a win for Ukraine, but at a terrible cost.
I also have concerns NATO may be showing its hand a bit too much. I really hope we don't push Russia to do something extreme. If they already feel like they are fighting the entire west, they might not hold back.
By all accounts, there hasn't been any terrible cost. Except for the Russians.
As far as your remark about "propaganda," this news is coming from literally everywhere. Even Russian state TV.
(09-13-2022, 09:00 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I think we are too quick to believe our own propaganda. By all accounts, this was a win for Ukraine, but at a terrible cost.
I also have concerns NATO may be showing its hand a bit too much. I really hope we don't push Russia to do something extreme. If they already feel like they are fighting the entire west, they might not hold back.
Judging by the growing dissent in Russia, I would venture to bet Putin’s supporting cast is dwindling. The Russians may be bold and reckless, but they’re not stupid. If Putin ever started pushing for action against the West, especially if it included anything hinting at nuclear, he would most likely have an accident or sudden health issue. That’s how they do things.
(09-13-2022, 09:21 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2022, 09:00 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I think we are too quick to believe our own propaganda. By all accounts, this was a win for Ukraine, but at a terrible cost.
I also have concerns NATO may be showing its hand a bit too much. I really hope we don't push Russia to do something extreme. If they already feel like they are fighting the entire west, they might not hold back.
Judging by the growing dissent in Russia, I would venture to bet Putin’s supporting cast is dwindling. The Russians may be bold and reckless, but they’re not stupid. If Putin ever started pushing for action against the West, especially if it included anything hinting at nuclear, he would most likely have an accident or sudden health issue. That’s how they do things.
If they could find him that health issue would have occurred 3 months ago.
(09-13-2022, 09:08 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: [ -> ] (09-13-2022, 09:00 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: [ -> ]Personally, I think we are too quick to believe our own propaganda. By all accounts, this was a win for Ukraine, but at a terrible cost.
I also have concerns NATO may be showing its hand a bit too much. I really hope we don't push Russia to do something extreme. If they already feel like they are fighting the entire west, they might not hold back.
By all accounts, there hasn't been any terrible cost. Except for the Russians.
As far as your remark about "propaganda," this news is coming from literally everywhere. Even Russian state TV.
Say what?? Significant loss of life. Massive amounts of people being displaced from their homes and losing jobs. Houses and businesses totally wiped out. Loss of a significant portion of their GDP. Other than that, I'd have to agree that there hasn't been any terrible cost to the Ukrainians.