06-14-2016, 07:47 AM
Quote:What are you the thought police? Dude, get real. You and badger look at reality and see Stallone movies.With all that has been discovered in the short time this act occurred how can you even argue with JJ's point?
Quote:What are you the thought police? Dude, get real. You and badger look at reality and see Stallone movies.With all that has been discovered in the short time this act occurred how can you even argue with JJ's point?
Quote:Well my liberal friend, I don't base my opinion on "popular" points of view, I form and make my own opinion based on the facts that I know. I'm a logical kind of person, hence Spock as my avatar. It's no secret that I lean to the right on most issues, but at some point we need to get rid of the "left v.s right" thing.
The main issue that the Federal Government should be focusing on, in my opinion is the War on Terror. Gun rights, gay rights, etc. is not the important issue at hand. Being PC is not the way to be a leader. It has to be said, called and dealt with for what it is.
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By the way my liberal friend, I don't take meds but I did decide to bust open a beer today after work.
Quote:No, you absolutely cannot discard Due Process this way. This is exactly how it starts, first Due Process goes, then Habeas Corpus, Presumption of Innocence, then the show trials start, people disappear for no reason at all and one day it's YOU who ends up on the wrong list. We have rights, ALL of us, until we are proven guilty of a crime. We cannot permit rash decisions made in emotional moments to destroy the foundations of Western Civilization.Haven't you heard? War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength!
Quote:From what we have learned about the guy, I draw 2 conclusions so far:His father is a pro taliban Afghan immigrant.
1) Systemic failure. Lots of red flags. I agree with all that.
2) His motivations are a whole soup of things. Anger management issues. Religion. And, the fact that he was gay and had a hard time reconciling his gayness with his religious views. Throw in his anger management problems, and you have an explosive mix.
<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/orlando-gunman-had-used-gay-dating-app-visited-nightclub-witnesses-say/ar-AAh0eVN?li=BBnb7Kz'>Why I think he was gay. </a>
This guy had some deep inner conflicts, anger management issues, and he just flipped out. He was on some kind of FBI watch list but the fact that the FBI dropped him from the list is what allowed him to buy those guns without setting off some kind of alarm in the system. We need to tighten that up perhaps.
But what this has to do with immigration is almost nothing, because he was not an immigrant.
Quote:Do me a favor and quit reading my posts until your tinfoil hat becomes too uncomfortable to wear.
Quote:His father is a pro taliban Afghan immigrant.
Quote:His father is a pro taliban Afghan immigrant.
Quote:Why does it feel like a couple people are actually defending the shooter?
Quote:Stop importing people from parts of the world that don't share our basic values.
All those that do come into the country must be affirmatively vetted over long periods of time.
The importance of assimilation and maintaining our culture can never take a back seat to PCism.
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Trump's idiocy of keeping muslims out won't work, and is not a true discussion. So, if any trumpette wants to weigh in, please provide my depth then your simpleton candidate has. Or at least, link him saying something more than we need to keep muslims out.
Quote:How can you call someone who has accomplished more in life than you ever will, made more money as a 20 year old than you ever will in your entire life, has a beautiful family, and has created history a simpleton? Maybe you are the simpleton Sherlock.
Quote:1.)The father shouldn't have been in the country.
Stop importing people from parts of the world that don't share our basic values.
Quote:He also condemned his son's actions. He went to far as to call it terrorism abs he would have narc'd on his own son of he knew what he was planning.
Proof positive of your true disingenuous agenda pushing, you ignore this fact in order to try and solidify your opinion. Sad.
Quote:His father is Afghan. They were an ally of ours in the 80's. We helped fund their war against the Soviets.
Quote:A man's wealth is not a reflection of his intelligence.
Specifically speaking about his political policies, he's an idiot.
I'll concede that he is very smart in bankruptcy law and media relations. 2 areas that he has alot of experience in.
But I stand by my statement regarding his policies for America. He's a simpleton.
Quote:Shooter was well known to Feds since he was a kid. He mocked American schoolmates on 9/11 and pretended to be a plane hitting a building. Was injured in a police car ride-along at age 19. Is a closet gay who was well-known at Pulse. His father is on video saying gays must be killed. Father is a Pashtun Afghan who have a deep culture of sex with boys. But they don't consider sex with boys gay because "we do not love our boys". No wonder the shooter was so conflicted.