Quote:And my point was I didn't trust the Dad and the kid said was he said about ISIS. Then you rambled on about my view of all Muslims. So yes, I think you projected someone else's take which is why I was so confused. No, nothing to addres. Anyways, that was fun. And remember, not all people's whose board name starts with a j have the same view points 
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In fairness to Aman (maybe AM, and JT, and i can be BS
), given post 368, maybe a misunderstanding as opposed to a ramble, and in fairness to you again, as stated previously, post 440.
And while I think there might be opportunity into discussing verbiage, and phrases such as "Radical Islamic Terrorism" , I don't want to sidetrack this. My original goal was one of clarification, not obfuscation.
Quote:In fairness to Aman (maybe AM, and JT, and i can be [BAD WORD REMOVED] ), given post 368, maybe a misunderstanding as opposed to a ramble, and in fairness to you again, as stated previously, post 440.
And while I think there might be opportunity into discussing verbiage, and phrases such as "Radical Islamic Terrorism" , I don't want to sidetrack this. My original goal was one of clarification, not obfuscation.
Haha!!! I think we'd have to go with biffy, or bfs...
I think Islam is more like a political system than a religion. It walks, talks and quacks like one. It's kinda like the Catholic church during the Inquisition. It's a political system applied, controlled and enforced by the Church.
I do feel Islam is headed for a clash with Western civilization. I would like to think we could all be better for it. I do see positives. Jacksonville has a fairly large Middle Eastern faction that has been here a long time. Mr. Khan's influence here has been nothing but positive. I do worry that too great an influx of one culture into another will lead to violence. It usually does.
Quote:I think Islam is more like a political system than a religion. It walks, talks and quacks like one. It's kinda like the Catholic church during the Inquisition. It's a political system applied, controlled and enforced by the Church.
I do feel Islam is headed for a clash with Western civilization. I would like to think we could all be better for it. I do see positives. Jacksonville has a fairly large Middle Eastern faction that has been here a long time. Mr. Khan's influence here has been nothing but positive. I do worry that too great an influx of one culture into another will lead to violence. It usually does.
It's ok to say Theocracy.
Quote:It's ok to say Theocracy.
Yes, but Islam isn't limited to one country.
In other news, the gentleman manning the back door of the Pulse club, actor Luis Burbano's last acting project was in 2015 when he played a "club patron" in a Video short called "Spirit of Orlando: Shooting Up". It's a music video not worth watching but I didn't see Mr. Burbano and there was no club scene so I don't know why he was credited.
Quote:Yes, but Islam isn't limited to one country.
In other news, the gentleman manning the back door of the Pulse club, actor Luis Burbano's last acting project was in 2015 when he played a "club patron" in a Video short called "Spirit of Orlando: Shooting Up". It's a music video not worth watching but I didn't see Mr. Burbano and there was no club scene so I don't know why he was credited.
And borders don't matter to them.
Quote:And borders don't matter to them.
If that was the case, the Arabian peninsula would be united as well as the Levant including Suria, Jordan, Gaza, Palestine.
But they aren't so there goes that theory.
Quote:I'm only going to say this one time (puts his sunglasses down) when my Name comes up, put some RESPEK on IT. and that goes for all ah y'all. Ya heard me?
I ain't gonna say it no mo.
Quote:If that was the case, the Arabian peninsula would be united as well as the Levant including Suria, Jordan, Gaza, Palestine.
But they aren't so there goes that theory.
Yeah, why don't you go ask ISIL how they feel about that.
Quote:I'm only going to say this one time (puts his sunglasses down) when my Name comes up, put some RESPEK on IT. and that goes for all ah y'all. Ya heard me?
This is why you're my favorite Trumpette.
More fakery. Woman in grey dress is seen being escorted to pickup truck by police. She has one small bandage on her knee but is not limping at all. Her dress is clean and there's no blood on her legs.
https://youtu.be/7oGvEuB3F0U
Then we see her in the famous shot with blood all over her dress and legs.
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Quote:More fakery. Woman in grey dress is seen being escorted to pickup truck by police. She has one small bandage on her knee but is not limping at all. Her dress is clean and there's no blood on her legs.
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://youtu.be/7oGvEuB3F0U'>https://youtu.be/7oGvEuB3F0U</a>
Then we see her in the famous shot with blood all over her dress and legs.
That's weird. I'm more interested in what these types of questions pose, but I question the reliability. I don't think it's a conspiracy but those are tough questions to answer. The blood looks like it was poured on her and isn't consistent with brushing up against someone.
I don't think they can get a bunch of cops, nurses, and doctors to conspire and keep this secret. These are normal people. They have no incentive to lie for the government.
Quote:This is why you're my favorite Trumpette.
Not there's anything wrong with that.
Quote:That's weird. I'm more interested in what these types of questions pose, but I question the reliability. I don't think it's a conspiracy but those are tough questions to answer. The blood looks like it was poured on her and isn't consistent with brushing up against someone.
I don't think they can get a bunch of cops, nurses, and doctors to conspire and keep this secret. These are normal people. They have no incentive to lie for the government.
No incentive? Millions of dollars per family. Doctors? Like the "acting" Medical Examiner who became the real one on Tuesday? No video from the actual 3-hour ordeal but plenty of video later proven to be faked.
Quote:No incentive? Millions of dollars per family. Doctors? Like the "acting" Medical Examiner who became the real one on Tuesday? No video from the actual 3-hour ordeal but plenty of video later proven to be faked.
So you are all in now? Nothing happened?
I'm not sure what happened. It could be exactly as James Howell described in California, He said Omar was leader of a 4-man team and got taken out by the others. Or it could be completely scripted and fake. There's really no evidence except the obviously faked video. But the official story seems very unlikely. There was a cop at the door, so we should either have a dead jihadist or a dead cop. But no cops died, not even the one at the scene. It's strange that the bar was full and the lights and music were still going at 2 AM. It's strange that with only 1 shooter, nobody fought back. Nobody rushed him when he changed magazines, or when he called 911 or when he updated his Facebook page or when he searched the web for news of the attack.
It's strange that SWAT waited 3 hours while the shooter was in there killing and maiming people. They said they didn't go in because of reports the shooter had explosives. Gee, if that's all it takes to make SWAT stand down, I'm sure all criminals will start making that claim. When SWAT did finally go in, they may have killed 30 people. The reports of 20 dead suddenly jumped to 50 dead with no increment.
So no, I don't know what happened and may never know. But I'm suspicious of the immediate gun grab. UK and Australia both gave up their guns after mass shootings.