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Quote:The saddest part of all this is how quick it'll default to partisan arguments

It's just jib jumping at his chance to do his shtick. It's a holy war, after all, didn't you know?

I hope we beef up the "security" checks at the Jag games, cause if someone really wanted to do damage, they could...

 

Even if it means standing in line to get into the stadium for an extra 10 minutes, so be it, this [BAD WORD REMOVED] is getting ridiculous.

 

RIP to the people that lost their lives. Out on a Saturday night to have a good time, and you get murdered by some worthless piece of [BAD WORD REMOVED]. Unreal.

What a awful act of terrorism and Hate crime. I pray that the Great physician Jesus will be with Nurses and Doctors who are with those who have survived and all those affected. Rip those 50 who have died. God Bless

'He's a known quantity. He's been on the radar before': Worst mass shooter in US history Omar Mateen had been investigated TWICE by the FBI before Orlando gay club massacre 
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[*]The FBI named Mateen a person of interest in 2013 and again in 2014 
[*]An investigation was opened into the 29-year-old but case was closed when no evidence came to light   
[*]FBI says Mateen may have 'leanings to radical Islamic terrorism' and it is being investigated as 'an act of terrorism'
[*]Mateen's father claims the attack has 'nothing to do with religion' and said his son became angry after seeing two men kiss in public a few months ago   
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z4BOhiWCTH

 

Quote:'He's a known quantity. He's been on the radar before': Worst mass shooter in US history Omar Mateen had been investigated TWICE by the FBI before Orlando gay club massacre 

• WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT 
  
• The FBI named Mateen a person of interest in 2013 and again in 2014 
  
• An investigation was opened into the 29-year-old but case was closed when no evidence came to light   
  
• FBI says Mateen may have 'leanings to radical Islamic terrorism' and it is being investigated as 'an act of terrorism'
  
• Mateen's father claims the attack has 'nothing to do with religion' and said his son became angry after seeing two men kiss in public a few months ago   
  

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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z4BOhiWCTH

 
 

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"It has nothing to do with our faith. Just our murderous homophobia."

Quote:It did have something to do with gay issues. He was disgusted when he saw two guys kissing in Miami, and he seemed to go off on it.

So, if it was religious it falls right in with a certain Baptist Church beliefs as well.

Terror has no boundaries, no religion, no ethic group. Just some really [BAD WORD REMOVED] up people.

Childish

Quote:I don't blame President Obama for the attack at all. However, his focus is in the wrong place. Is this about gun rights and/or LGBT issues or is it about radical Islamic terrorism?

Maybe it's about all of the above? It's common sense that shootings are easier with availability of guns. Whether that's a crazy Christian or Muslim. Be nice to see people stick up for LGBT and reduce the hate rather than getting all upset about bathroom usage.

Quote:"It has nothing to do with our faith. Just our murderous homophobia."

"God hates [BLEEP]"


Isn't a Muslim slogan, though...

Quote:Would this not have happened under Romneys watch? What do we do about First Amendment rights when Westboro, inflames and instigates?

I'm not an Obama sympathizer, but what he said wasn't terrible. It was a hate crime. Of course he'd mention it. The hate is hate, whether it's religion, sexual orientation, etc. Islamic terror...that was hatched right here, by a citizen. Again..are there Christian terror organizations, or hate groups.

Our freedoms are being tested, and slowly, I see them eroding...if not for just self preservation.

I don't have the answer, any sitting president doesn't, all think tanks don't.

In closing..one major issue facing us all is the agenda driven society. It's not about us as a collective nation, but rather us, our collective group. Gun rights. Gun control. Black lives matter. Blue lives matter. Gay rights. LBGT rights.

When we divide ourselves in so many ways, our demise isn't far behind.

 

It's being allowed to happen and policy isn't in place or even talked about to address it.  The prime problem and a result of it is radical Islamic terrorism.  That's what brought down the twin towers, the motivation behind the Boston Marathon bombing, Bengahzi, etc. etc....

 

Regarding your first point in bold, don't try to redirect the problem by saying that "there are Christian terror organizations or terror groups".  This guy that did this act did so not by an ideal "hatched right here" in the U.S..  You also don't see massive killings or attacks from other religions including Christians.  Offensive such as Westboro Baptist church?  Yes they do exercise their right to free speech even if it is offensive to most people, but they aren't going around blowing people up and/or shooting them.

 

Regarding the second part in bold.  Which side of the political aisle separates people for whatever reason?

 

Quote:It's just jib jumping at his chance to do his shtick. It's a holy war, after all, didn't you know?

 

What "shtick" would that be?  The fact that we are at war against radical Islamic extremists?  It's not a "holy war" at all, it's pretty much a fight against "good vs. evil".

Quote:Maybe it's about all of the above? It's common sense that shootings are easier with availability of guns. Whether that's a crazy Christian or Muslim. Be nice to see people stick up for LGBT and reduce the hate rather than getting all upset about bathroom usage.

 

So if it's "all of the above", what is the most pressing issue for ALL Americans?  LGBT rights?  Gun rights?  The fact that there is a faction of people that hate and want to kill Americans?  Why is the biggest concern for him about groups of people rather than the safety of ALL Americans?

Quote:It's being allowed to happen and policy isn't in place or even talked about to address it. The prime problem and a result of it is radical Islamic terrorism. That's what brought down the twin towers, the motivation behind the Boston Marathon bombing, Bengahzi, etc. etc....


Regarding your first point in bold, don't try to redirect the problem by saying that "there are Christian terror organizations or terror groups". This guy that did this act did so not by an ideal "hatched right here" in the U.S.. You also don't see massive killings or attacks from other religions including Christians. Offensive such as Westboro Baptist church? Yes they do exercise their right to free speech even if it is offensive to most people, but they aren't going around blowing people up and/or shooting them.


Regarding the second part in bold. Which side of the political aisle separates people for whatever reason?



What "shtick" would that be? The fact that we are at war against radical Islamic extremists? It's not a "holy war" at all, it's pretty much a fight against "good vs. evil".

What schtick would that be? The kind that proposed that somehow there is a difference between saying terrorism and redical Islamic terrorism. That mentioning the fact that this was a targeted hate crime while also saying it's a terrorist act somehow is "the wrong focus" as if by not mentioning the hate crime part it does anything more than make you guys feel a little better. And let's be honest with each other here. Nothing he says will make you guys happy. That's been clear since election day in 2008. That's the schtick right there.

Quote:"God hates [BAD WORD REMOVED]"


Isn't a Muslim slogan, though...

 

Yeah, it's the slogan of a family full of lawyers who use religious faith create an opportunity to litigate against those dumb enough to feed their madness. They've also been actively and loudly denounced by the actual associations of the denomination whose name they hijacked and most other mainstream religious organizations.

Quote:Yeah, it's the slogan of a family full of lawyers who use religious faith create an opportunity to litigate against those dumb enough to feed their madness. They've also been actively and loudly denounced by the actual associations of the denomination whose name they hijacked and most other mainstream religious organizations.

And your point?

Quote:And your point?

 

Your attempt to assign that to mainstream Christianity is a false association.

Quote:So if it's "all of the above", what is the most pressing issue for ALL Americans? LGBT rights? Gun rights? The fact that there is a faction of people that hate and want to kill Americans? Why is the biggest concern for him about groups of people rather than the safety of ALL Americans?

Wasn't there a bill to ban guns from people on terrorist watch list voted down? Seems there isn't much concern for American safety you are right...

Quote:Your attempt to assign that to mainstream Christianity is a false association.

Westboro Baptist isn't mainstream Christianity.

Quote:Westboro Baptist isn't mainstream Christianity.

 

Right, so why bring them up?

Quote:Right, so why bring them up?

To illustrate that Mainstream Islam does not harbor those sentiments either.

Quote:To illustrate that Mainstream Islam does not harbor those sentiments either.

 

We're close to the line here, I'll just say that I KNOW where Mainstream Christianity stands on Westboro, I don't KNOW where Mainstream Islam stands on Islamic Terrorism.

Has cankles clinton blamed it on youtube yet?