Quote:In the wake of the massacre, Trump brags about being right.
"Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism..."
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Yeah, it's all about you, Donald.
Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!
Full tweets are nice
Quote:So let me get this right. A few words can send any one of the members of this group into a murderous rage? Yes by all means lets spend billions of dollars to resettle as many as possible here.
I can see the justification for not describing these people as "radical Islamic Terrorists." Why would the President help them connect themselves to the religion they claim to represent and that we claim they do not represent? Especially if we want to say they do NOT represent the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. The best label for these people is "murderous thugs." Why put the label "Islamic" on them? That just helps them divide the world into Muslims and non-Muslims. We don't want to help them do that.
Quote:Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!
Full tweets are nice
Yes, and then he wrote a whole long screed about how this means he ought to be President. He can't take even one day to let this thing settle before making it about him and his campaign. Yes, I would say classless piece of garbage pretty much describes him.
Quote:Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism, I don't want congrats, I want toughness & vigilance. We must be smart!
Full tweets are nice
Yet you get angry at Obama for talking about gun control and making it about that?
Apparently only white non muslim Americans have the right to shoot people.
Quote:So let me get this right. A few words can send any one of the members of this group into a murderous rage? Yes by all means lets spend billions of dollars to resettle as many as possible here.
That's, I'll have to assume, a gross and intentional mischaractzation.
The point is not making this a America vs. Islam deal, and to make it, correctly, a Isis/taliban/al qui da vs. the world.
And not fostering a divide those groups actively exploit.
Quote:In the wake of the massacre, Trump brags about being right.
"Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism..."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...wsrc%5Etfw
Yeah, it's all about you, Donald.
You posted the first part of the quote that makes it look horrible and provided click bait to get the full quote that makes it not all that bad at all.
Do you work in the media? You should be ashamed of yourself.
Lots of different hot button issues coming together here.
I don't own guns and for the most part I feel pretty immune to gun violence so I dont really feel like I have a dog in the fight. And while I dont want a ban on guns, it seems crazy that this guy had been interviewed by the FBI on multiple occasions, had co-workers alert gov't officials about his radical islamic commentary, and had met w/ known terrorists yet still was able to purchase weapons. So much for background checks. You've got to change the rules on these semi-auto assault weapons like AR15s. At a minimum you have to at least put a time requirement on the number of years one has been a responsible gun owner and law abiding citizen before they can purchase a weapon like that.
As far as Islam, I dont understand why we cant have an honest conversation about it in this country. Admitting the fact that an extremely violent form of Islam is coming out of the Middle East, shouldnt be met with cries of bigotry. I remember a few years ago the Pew Research Center, which is about the least biased polling you can get, published a report on sharia in the Muslim world. It had some shocking numbers like 99% of people in Afghanistan think sharia should be the law of the land. In Egypt it was 75%. And of those 75%, like 90% thought leaving Islam is worthy of the death penalty and that women who commit adultery should be stoned to death. Crazy numbers that didnt sound believable. I didnt believe them. And then we had the ousting of Mubarak and a chance for a real democratic change. It was supposed to be Obama's crowning Middle East example of how to naturally bring about a free society as opposed to Bush's costly nation building in Iraq. Well sadly it didnt come to fruition. Nearly 50% voted for the Muslim Brotherhood, a known terrorist organization officially labelled as such by numerous countries around the world, and even more shockingly an additional 25% voted for the more extremely religious Al-Nour party. Thats nearly 75% of the country voting for the anti-thesis of the values and ideals we have here in the West. That's not "a few bad actors" as Obama likes to say. Thats a fundamentally different view of the world, the values, and the norms of what we believe in by a significant percent of that population. But you dont see those percentages in muslim societies in other parts of the world. Read that Pew report and you see completely different numbers in eastern europe like Bosnia. You see completely different numbers in ex-soviet satellite countries like Kazakhstan and Azerbaijan. Just like other religions, Islam isnt the same across the board. It varies based on the culture in where it is being practiced. And for whatever reason, the version coming out of the Middle East is completely different than our own values. But we dont have that conversation. We're too afraid to say their culture is different. And doesnt represent our values. And is breeding a violent extremism. And it doesnt appear to be going away anytime soon. We'll be dealing with this for a long time.
Quote:Bigot
A+ post
I'm not comfortable with the idea of more government restrictions on our rights.
Quote:I'm not comfortable with the idea of more government restrictions on our rights.
I was mostly referring to the second part of his post
Yes you certainly don't want people with murderous intent to get hold of weapons.
Quote:yup an american citizen
Whose Father Once Tried to Run for the Afghan Presidency & Supported the Taliban
just a normal us citizen????? In times like these it wouldn't be a bad idea to make it harder for refugees to get in and to make sure they properly assimilate
Trump is going to build a wall.
Quote:Trump is going to build a wall.
To keep all the American terrorists in?
Quote:Well there is a difference between simply saying "terrorism" and "radical Islamic terrorism". Has President Obama ever used that phrase?
While it appears to be a targeted "hate crime", is it because of the sexuality of the victims, or could it be that the shooter was just after those that don't follow his belief(s)?
If you could explain why the impact of adding two additional words to terrorism does to make it different that would he swell.
Yeah those beliefs being anti gay. He targeted a gay club. There is also reports if a foiled attack on the LA pride parade also. It seems like this was part of a larger plot along with the explosions in China and Beirut
Quote:If you could explain why the impact of adding two additional words to terrorism does to make it different that would he swell.
Yeah those beliefs being anti gay. He targeted a gay club. There is also reports if a foiled attack on the LA pride parade also. It seems like this was part of a larger plot along with the explosions in China and Beirut
The guy in LA doesn't look like your every day muslim either.
Quote:Yes you certainly don't want people with murderous intent to get hold of weapons.
Far more dangerous are those who have that intent but would deny you those weapons.
Quote:Far more dangerous are those who have that intent but would deny you those weapons.
Must be an American problem. No mass shootings in Australia since gun control. Our would be terrorist in Sydney could only get hold of a shotgun and killed one person that day.
Quote:Must be an American problem. No mass shootings in Australia since gun control. Our would be terrorist in Sydney could only get hold of a shotgun and killed one person that day.
Yeah, we're not an island that won't let anyone in like you guys are.
Quote:How did this turn into refugees?
Perhaps the problem isn't just refugees...