Quote:Wasn't there a bill to ban guns from people on terrorist watch list voted down? Seems there isn't much concern for American safety you are right...
The reasons for that were pretty significant including that no one has to tell you you're on the list, why you're on the list, or how to get off the list.
Quote:What schtick would that be? The kind that proposed that somehow there is a difference between saying terrorism and redical Islamic terrorism. That mentioning the fact that this was a targeted hate crime while also saying it's a terrorist act somehow is "the wrong focus" as if by not mentioning the hate crime part it does anything more than make you guys feel a little better. And let's be honest with each other here. Nothing he says will make you guys happy. That's been clear since election day in 2008. That's the schtick right there.
Well there is a difference between simply saying "terrorism" and "radical Islamic terrorism". Has President Obama ever used that phrase?
While it appears to be a targeted "hate crime", is it because of the sexuality of the victims, or could it be that the shooter was just after those that don't follow his belief(s)?
Quote:what is the most pressing issue for ALL Americans? LGBT rights? Gun rights? The fact that there is a faction of people that hate and want to kill Americans? Why is the biggest concern for him about groups of people rather than the safety of ALL Americans?
The most pressing issue right now is Europe and the United States are dealing with a radical islam insurgency. Our nations are so big we can't keep every little corner protected. There needs to be some serious reforms to refugee laws, protections put in to deny immigrants from conflict countries weapons, a serious stance on deportation, and a progressive focus on assimilation programs that are much longer and more difficult for people.
Quote:The most pressing issue right now is Europe and the United States are dealing with a radical islam insurgency. Our nations are so big we can't keep every little corner protected. There needs to be some serious reforms to refugee laws, protections put in to deny immigrants from conflict countries weapons, a serious stance on deportation, and a progressive focus on assimilation programs that are much longer and more difficult for people.
The guy was born in the US.
But go ahead and blame refugees. Shameful.
Quote:Right, so why bring them up?
Quote:Westboro Baptist isn't mainstream Christianity.
Quote:Right, so why bring them up?
The idea is that the MOST radical christian group christians have don't go around killing people. Many radical islam groups that go around doing killings aren't radical enough to other camps. its a problem
Quote:The guy was born in the US.
But go ahead and blame refugees. Shameful.
yup an american citizen
Whose Father Once Tried to Run for the Afghan Presidency & Supported the Taliban
just a normal us citizen????? In times like these it wouldn't be a bad idea to make it harder for refugees to get in and to make sure they properly assimilate
Quote:So if it's "all of the above", what is the most pressing issue for ALL Americans? LGBT rights? Gun rights? The fact that there is a faction of people that hate and want to kill Americans? Why is the biggest concern for him about groups of people rather than the safety of ALL Americans?
Because a group of people was specifically targeted?
Quote:yup an american citizen
Whose Father Once Tried to Run for the Afghan Presidency & Supported the Taliban
just a normal us citizen????? In times like these it wouldn't be a bad idea to make it harder for refugees to get in and to make sure they properly assimilate
In case you didn't know, those refugees are fleeing terrorism as well.
Also, in the land of the free, how does one properly assimilate?
Quote:Getting what I want? What I want is for people to quit making sweeping generalizations about strangers that they have never met.
Let me ask you; do you know any Muslims or have any as friends? I do. In fact I have a Muslim friend that I go hunting with just about every year. Sounds crazy don't it? Alone in the woods with an armed Muslim. How on Earth do I keep making it back alive year after year?
There are bad apples from every walk of life but I'll be damned if I'm going to let the actions of a few nut jobs turn me into a paranoid xenophobe.
Yes, you want our country to let everybody in no questions asked. That's what we are doing... So you win. All in the name of some misplaced feeling of self righteousness that you don't judge others based on nationality.
How did this turn into refugees?
Quote:Well there is a difference between simply saying "terrorism" and "radical Islamic terrorism". Has President Obama ever used that phrase?
While it appears to be a targeted "hate crime", is it because of the sexuality of the victims, or could it be that the shooter was just after those that don't follow his belief(s)?
No, I doubt he has used that term, as it serves the terrorists purpose of tying their beliefs to a religion that doesn't prescribe to their beliefs.
It also seems to go towards overgeneralizing a whole religion as having these extreme demented beliefs.
It isn't like he doesn't get who the enemy is.....
It is a well-thought out mentality to not attack a whole religion, which many people seem to want to do, which then creates a justification for the terrorists.
Quote:How did this turn into refugees?
Because they're all Muslim and may or may not also want to blow stuff up. Or we can just ignore the common denominator with these people and continue to ship them in.
Quote:In case you didn't know, those refugees are fleeing terrorism as well.
Also, in the land of the free, how does one properly assimilate?
Well not shooting your coworkers, or blowing up a marathon, or shooting up a bar would be a good start. Maybe accepting people for their freedoms like gay rights even if you don't share their views.
When the terrorism you are fleeing has actively told they are hiding soldiers in the refugee ranks its probably not a good idea to let more refugees in. When citizens of Al Raqqa are under seige and isis leaders are taking their passports for their soldiers its not a bad idea to be on guard about your border policies.
Quote:Because they're all Muslim and may or may not also want to blow stuff up. Or we can just ignore the common denominator with these people and continue to ship them in.
Anders Breivik would agree with you
Quote:Anders Breivik would agree with you
Go put another shrimp on the barby and let us worry about our own country. Thx
Quote:In the wake of the massacre, Trump brags about being right.
"Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism..."
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/742034549232766976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw'>https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/742034549232766976?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw</a>
Yeah, it's all about you, Donald.
What a classless piece of garbage.
Quote:No, I doubt he has used that term, as it serves the terrorists purpose of tying their beliefs to a religion that doesn't prescribe to their beliefs.
It also seems to go towards overgeneralizing a whole religion as having these extreme demented beliefs.
It isn't like he doesn't get who the enemy is.....
It is a well-thought out mentality to not attack a whole religion, which many people seem to want to do, which then creates a justification for the terrorists.
So let me get this right. A few words can send any one of the members of this group into a murderous rage? Yes by all means lets spend billions of dollars to resettle as many as possible here.
Quote:In the wake of the massacre, Trump brags about being right.
"Appreciate the congrats for being right on radical Islamic terrorism..."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...wsrc%5Etfw
Yeah, it's all about you, Donald.
Quote:What a classless piece of garbage.
Just can't admit the Trump was right can you. Y'all know how I feel about them
Quote:So let me get this right. A few words can send any one of the members of this group into a murderous rage? Yes by all means lets spend billions of dollars to resettle as many as possible here.
But he is American? Maybe that's where he picked up his hatred of gay people? Plenty of it around.