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Quote:If there is nothing to hide, why bother hiding it?

 

He hasn't been charged with anything. He has been cleared of drugs/alcohol. It's a non-story.

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I'm not taking the side that got the most rebuttals...I took the correct side of the argument. As usual. 

 

It's your world. We're all just living in it.

I'm not familiar with Florida traffic law, but Careless Driving sounds like Georgia's Basic Rules Violation. That's usually a charge a trooper / officer / deputy / whatever doesn't make... one that the courts plead down to... I'm inclined to believe that the Trooper had reason to believe that Blackmon was driving carelessly but not enough to prove it. 

Quote:He hasn't been charged with anything. He has been cleared of drugs/alcohol. It's a non-story.

Hey, that's exactly what his agent is telling Caldwell and Bradley right now!

Quote:I'm not familiar with Florida traffic law, but Careless Driving sounds like Georgia's Basic Rules Violation. That's usually a charge a trooper / officer / deputy / whatever doesn't make... one that the courts plead down to... I'm inclined to believe that the Trooper had reason to believe that Blackmon was driving carelessly but not enough to prove it. 

 

If he himself (nor anyone else) is a witness, it is tough to prove.

Quote:Hey, that's exactly what his agent is telling Caldwell and Bradley right now!

 

Nothing I said is untrue

Quote:I'm not familiar with Florida traffic law, but Careless Driving sounds like Georgia's Basic Rules Violation. That's usually a charge a trooper / officer / deputy / whatever doesn't make... one that the courts plead down to... I'm inclined to believe that the Trooper had reason to believe that Blackmon was driving carelessly but not enough to prove it. 

 

His tire popped.  Causing his car to go into a ditch.

 

Pretty much end of story right there.  Time of day is irrelevant.  

Quote:The fact he was not drunk or high speaks volumes to me. I'm 26, I'm out until that time regularly and not alcohol related. You hang at a friend's house watching movies, eating dinner, playing some xbox. Before you know it, it's 3am. Happens probably 1-2 times a week. Not that big a deal IMO.

 I agree with this 100%

 

Blackmon does not have the best reputation since coming into the league but he was not under the influence of drugs or alcohol this time so I don't see why he should get crucified for this.


 

Blackmon going to catch 80 balls this year, its ok.

Quote:His tire popped.  Causing his car to go into a ditch.

 

Pretty much end of story right there.  Time of day is irrelevant.  

 

I don't disagree.

 

I've seen vehicles travel 300 feet into the woods, through significant plantlife, and end up upside down in a ditch. During that investigation, all of my training suggested that the driver traveled at least twice the speed limit. I didn't have enough evidence to support it, but anyone that had any idea knew the driver was driving recklessly. My point here is that, sometimes, we know things to be true that we can't prove. It sounds stupid, but that's the way it works. 

 

I'm not even saying that Blackmon did anything wrong; I'm only saying that the possibility exists that he could've been doing something he shouldn't have been doing. While dropping the citation certainly helps his case, it doesn't prove that he wasn't driving carelessly. 

 

I'm not on the cut Blackmon or Blackmon-is-a-loser bandwagon, BTW. Just saying that those that do feel that way can still use this to support their argument.

If this was Shorts or Ace Sanders, TMD would be calling for the death penalty.

Quote:Nothing I said is untrue

Never said it was.

How he responds to the media tells me how he has matured and progressed in his recovery.  Up to this point he hasn't seemed to accept any responsibility for his actions.  

 

If he simply says he was at a friends, with a woman, etc.; then yes, perfectly reasonable explanation and end of story.  Given his history, if he tries to hide the details, it's natural to be suspicious.

 

Is it known that he was on his way home or is it just an assumption?

Quote:If this was Shorts or Ace Sanders, TMD would be calling for the death penalty.

 

for having a tire blowout?....

 

ah, no. 

Quote:I'm not even saying that Blackmon did anything wrong; I'm only saying that the possibility exists that he could've been doing something he shouldn't have been doing. While dropping the citation certainly helps his case, it doesn't prove that he wasn't driving carelessly. 

 

He was cited for driving carelessly because his tire popped.  


Now we can throw in possibilities of things that the cop left out and haven't ruled out (alcohol and drugs have been ruled out).  Which means we can include speeding (which isn't against the NFL rules anyway), but I don't see any reason to.

 

Except for the people who's agenda it fits.  But even then it's pretty pointless since calling for him to be traded isn't going to make him more likely to be traded.

Quote:I don't think anyone is saying he did something wrong law wise at least not at this point in the conversation.

Did you have two DUI'S by the time you turned 24?

Neither does Justin

Blackmon for the win. All day.

Quote:I don't disagree.

 

I've seen vehicles travel 300 feet into the woods, through significant plantlife, and end up upside down in a ditch. During that investigation, all of my training suggested that the driver traveled at least twice the speed limit. I didn't have enough evidence to support it, but anyone that had any idea knew the driver was driving recklessly. My point here is that, sometimes, we know things to be true that we can't prove. It sounds stupid, but that's the way it works. 

 

I'm not even saying that Blackmon did anything wrong; I'm only saying that the possibility exists that he could've been doing something he shouldn't have been doing. While dropping the citation certainly helps his case, it doesn't prove that he wasn't driving carelessly. 

 

I'm not on the cut Blackmon or Blackmon-is-a-loser bandwagon, BTW. Just saying that those that do feel that way can still use this to support their argument.

Careless driving is the basic citation for any fender bender. Reckless driving is what you are describing and is a much more serious offense.

Quote:He was cited for driving carelessly because his tire popped.  

 

I haven't read that yet. I couldn't missed it, but I didn't see anything say explicitly that he was cited because of the blown tire.

 

 

Quote:Careless driving is the basic citation for any fender bender. Reckless driving is what you are describing and is a much more serious offense.

 

That wasn't my point. I was explaining that there may not be sufficient evidence to support it, but it's apparent to anyone what happened. I wasn't comparing the two situations as being equal in offense.

Quote:Would it change your mind if he were acting as a designated driver for a fellow player or a friend? I'm not saying he was, but if that were the case, wouldn't it stand to reason that he was in fact doing the right thing? Perhaps part of his recovery effort is to help ensure others don't have the same problems that he has had, ie: DUI issues and the like.

IF. I can see it now. Blackmon DD.. Telling his boys...drink up fellers, I'm driving.

Man, would I love to have to eat crow on this, but if I had to bet, I think I'd win.

Blackmon DD... Gabbert QB tutoring lessons....same odds


Of course I'm glad he wasn't 32 sheets in the wind, but to be happy he wasn't drunk and serve up the accolades is pandering at its best.


He made his bed. If any other player did the same thing, it wouldn't be an issue. Then again, maybe it was just a late AA meeting.

Quote:I haven't read that yet. I couldn't missed it, but I didn't see anything say explicitly that he was cited because of the blown tire.

 

 

 

That wasn't my point. I was explaining that there may not be sufficient evidence to support it, but it's apparent to anyone what happened. I wasn't comparing the two situations as being equal in offense.

The mere act of running off the road into a ditch gets you a careless driving citation because people don't run off the road into a ditch normally if they are paying attention to what they are doing.

 

After reviewing the evidence, they determined that the accident was caused by a vehicle malfunction and not some sort of careless act, like messing with the radio, so the charge was dropped.

 

It's pretty cut and dry.