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Leslie Frazier was just let go. Wouldn't mind him running our D.

Quote:Leslie Frazier was just let go. Wouldn't mind him running our D.

Frazier wasn't even involved in the play calling in Tampa this past season.  Smith took over the role.  Pass.

Lovie Smiths defenses have finished in the top 10 in takeaways 9 times since 2001. Don't really like his scheme but creating more turnovers is surely something Gus is looking for next season.

Quote:Interesting to see somebody here who doesn't want Lovie. If you don't mind my asking, why not?

Sure...

I know a couple hard core Bears fans. They swear he ruined their team, defense and offense.

But you could write that off as disgruntled fans...

 

Then his stint in Tampa was peculiar. Bringing in a lot of the same ex-Bears on a defense that was struggling.

a defense that struggled to affect the passer and had secondary issues. (sound familiar?)

 

I'm not a fan of Tampa 2 coverage.

 

I suppose as a DC, some of the concerns voiced by Bears and Bucs fans about his HC abilities are moot.

However, in the past 3-4 seasons of his coaching, his defenses haven't really been anything near good.

 

Of ALL the choices... I like this idea the least.....

of some suggestions I've heard I like the idea of Mel Tucker, Jim Schwartz, or my personal preference is putting the onus on our defensive coach, who seemingly doesn't want to change his scheme.... he should call the plays. And maybe just bring in the mentor Kiffen.

I'd take Leslie Frazier on this staff.  He's a smart defensive guy.  

With Frazier you have the same scheme issue. Here's a quip from last January pondering if they would retain him...


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<p style="margin-left:40px;">Under Frazier, the Buccaneers dropped from 17th in the league in total defense to 25th. Their occasionally brutal D gave up 56 to the Falcons in week 3 and 48 to the Ravens in week 6. To be fair, the defense did improve late in the season.

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<p style="margin-left:40px;">In a world where more and more coordinators are moving to hybrid schemes like the one employed by Mike Zimmer, Frazier’s loyalty to the old Tampa-2 makes him appear increasingly prehistoric.

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Ultimately they did retain him, but not as the play caller. The following from last August explains that Lovie took over the play calling himself...


 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...r-his-job/

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If it's a choice between Lovie and Frasier, I'd rather have the play caller who improved their defense, and that's Lovie. Still, you have to wonder if he'd accept a D role and if he'd be able to compromise on the scheme.

Quote:Of ALL the choices... I like this idea the least.....

of some suggestions I've heard I like the idea of Mel Tucker, Jim Schwartz, or my personal preference is putting the onus on our defensive coach, who seemingly doesn't want to change his scheme.... he should call the plays. And maybe just bring in the mentor Kiffen.

 

 

I actually really liked Mel Tucker when he was here. The players respected him and you can tell when he talked that he knew what he was talking about. He was so much better than Babich. I personally thought they should have kept him on as the HC over Mularkey. Again, though, you have to wonder if he'd be able to adjust to using Bradley's scheme. Tucker is strictly a 4-3 guy.


 

As for Jim Schwartz, would he even accept a position as a DC? The Dolphins offered him their DC spot last year and he declined. Moreover, are we really comfortable with the longtime Titans DC taking over the spot? Finally, Schwartz is another 4-3 guy who would have to adapt.


 

Personally, I still prefer Raheem Morris, although the Tucker idea intrigues me. Schwartz I feel is too interested in being a HC again.

I wonder how appealing to a DC it is to know that the HC will be micromanaging him this year.

Quote:I wonder how appealing to a DC it is to know that the HC will be micromanaging him this year.

Assuming that to be true, I'm sure finding someone to come in and take over the defense will be more difficult.  My guess is that Gus would prefer to find a coordinator who doesn't require micromanaging. 

Quote:Assuming that to be true, I'm sure finding someone to come in and take over the defense will be more difficult.  My guess is that Gus would prefer to find a coordinator who doesn't require micromanaging. 

 

Isn't this what Gus has alluded to doing? Him stating that he will have a more significant role in the defense and perhaps even calling defensive plays sounds like micromanaging to me and even taking over that position entirely at times. I'm not saying Gus is wrong in doing so, I just wonder how appealing that is to a potential DC to know that the HC will be doing your job for you.

 

In my opinion I think Gus should just take over the defense this year.

Al Holcomb

I'd still rather have Rocky Seto than Lovie Smith.  Lovie's a guy who's likely going to get another chance to head coach eventually.  Still not sure if we can interview Rocky Seto or if that'd be a lateral move though.  

Can I add a name to the list? Totally wishful thinking here, but I'd love to have Wade Phillips come onto the Staff. I've always thought he did a great job of coaching up a Defense.

Quote:I'd still rather have Rocky Seto than Lovie Smith.  Lovie's a guy who's likely going to get another chance to head coach eventually.  Still not sure if we can interview Rocky Seto or if that'd be a lateral move though.  

 

 

Yeah I think that would be considered a lateral move.

Quote:Al Holcomb

 

 

http://www.panthers.com/team/coaches/al-...dab2a6784f

 

Interesting suggestion. As a mere LB coach he might not come with his own pre-determined scheme wherein he just might be an ideal Bradley puppet. The question with him would be, can he call the plays? The move would be a huge stop up for him so there is a fear he could be in over his head.

Quote:Can I add a name to the list? Totally wishful thinking here, but I'd love to have Wade Phillips come onto the Staff. I've always thought he did a great job of coaching up a Defense.

 

 

Wade definitely knows how to bring the pressure, and the scheme he brings is intriguing. Wade is 3-4 disciple except he utilizes one-gapping DLs. There's an interesting article about this here...


 

http://www.milehighreport.com/2015/1/27/...illips-3-4

 

The players brought in to fit Bradley's scheme might just fit Phillip's scheme well, and that scheme is doing wonders for Denver. He'd be worth some consideration, although again it appears we're talking about a lateral move wherein this probably wouldn't happen. That said, might it not be quite so "lateral" if we were to make Phillips the Assistant Head Coach/Defense much like Seto is in Seattle?

Quote:Have you seen Bradley?


He is an extremely well liked guy. He probably interviews well and after having no emotion Mularkey, Gus looked awesome. I think people love him as a person but I haven't seen any good coaching out of him.


It's not as if the Seattle defense fell after he left. It actually got better.

 

 

That was due to talent on the team, not Quinn, his successor.  Just look at the Falcons this year.

Quote:That was due to talent on the team, not Quinn, his successor.  Just look at the Falcons this year.

Falcons D might have been worse than ours.

 

Definitely when looking at QB sacks and pressures.

Quote:Falcons D might have been worse than ours.

 

Definitely when looking at QB sacks and pressures.

 

 

They were about the same vs the run but were far and away better vs the pass despite bringing less pressure. Simply put, Raheem Morris was strictly their pass coverage coordinator, and that happened to be the best part of their defense. Morris would quickly get to work on revamping the Jaguars secondary while helping Colvin and House to flourish, and you can trust he can handle the entire D knowing he's a former HC. I have to think he's one of the front runners for the spot.

Quote:They were about the same vs the run but were far and away better vs the pass despite bringing less pressure. Simply put, Raheem Morris was strictly their pass coverage coordinator, and that happened to be the best part of their defense. Morris would quickly get to work on revamping the Jaguars secondary while helping Colvin and House to flourish, and you can trust he can handle the entire D knowing he's a former HC. I have to think he's one of the front runners for the spot.

Having a shutdown corner helped the Falcons D quite a bit.